Clinton: Half of Trump's Supporters are a "Basket of Deplorables"
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[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;51029581]it's hard to get a gaggle of knuckle dragging imbeciles to respect you when their beloved leader has taught them that you're the devil
I mean why not just call a spade a spade at this point[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;51029581]You would have to be deaf and blind not to notice the personality cult of racist chucklefuck shitgibbons behind Trump. [/QUOTE]
Hillary supporters are lucky. In that, they are lucky that most people don't assume all Hillary supporters are only capable of spitting non-sense insults with no regards for argumentative power.
Unfortunately, Hillary does not have the same initiative to diss her own "Basket of Deplorables", that would've been quite entertaining.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;51029682]There it is.
If you give a shit about outsourcing, the destruction of your community due to de-industrialization, and you don't want power to be increasingly held in the hands of a tiny minority of people, then you're a white nationalist.
This is what I'm talking about HumanAbyss.
[editline]10th September 2016[/editline]
It's kind of a masterstroke for the elite. There's no argument against them unless you want to be a:[/QUOTE]
So basically, what your talking about is a loose correlation of things you don't like being the downfall of "white" people
I give a shit about outsourcing, but do you know what the cost would be [B]to you[/B] if everything you bought was made in the US? Do you?
Speaking out about globalism doesn't make you a racist, it's the mutlitude of racial slurs that people usually bring along with it blaming other people for their issues.
[B]and again, none of this really speaks to the issue at hand that not one of you has a fucking answer for[/B]
[B]What is Trump going to do to overthrow these globalist overlords you keep speaking about[/B]
[editline]10th September 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=bunguer;51029693]Hillary supporters are lucky. In that, they are lucky that most people don't assume all Hillary supporters are only capable of spitting non-sense insults with no regards for argumentative power.
Unfortunately, Hillary does not have the same initiative to diss her own "Basket of Deplorables", that would've been quite entertaining.[/QUOTE]
So you deny the existence of the cult of personality Trump has garnered where he freely said "I COULD SHOOT A PERSON AND YOU'D STILL VOTE FOR ME!"
Or such gems as "Punch him, beat em up, get em out of here, I'll cover your legal bills" or other such tidbits as "Don't you miss the old days where you could just punch a guy in the face"?
Oh no we [B]can't[/B] talk about that with Trump supporters because Hilary is literally the devil, and you'd rather talk about that than anything else, you'd rather speak fire and vitrol than admit the candidate you want is a fucking mess and a disaster that doesn't represent you and that you have to cover, ignore, or apologize for every word out of the mans mouth because every word is a gaffe a week later.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51029704]What is Trump going to do to overthrow these globalist overlords you keep speaking about[/QUOTE]
I think that's part of the thing with Trump. He's so 'nationalistic' that people don't care how he does anything. This is an election based on character and who has more shit clung to their suit / pantsuit.
And again, bunguer, wystan, pantz, you guys freely throw insults to demean, degrade, and devalue the people who you disagree with, and you act incencessed and annoyed when you can't do that unopposed.
All I see is hypocrisy, blatant, shameful hypocrisy that you guys are so determined to ignore it's actually making me feel somewhat physically ill to know that there has been 9 months of conversation about this at least and none of it has ever changed one of your minds about anything regarding Trump.
[editline]10th September 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=BioWaster;51029727]I think that's part of the thing with Trump. He's so 'nationalistic' that people don't care how he does anything. This is an election based on character and who has more shit clung to their suit / pantsuit.[/QUOTE]
I look at Trump, I see 473 lawsuits. I see a man who's currently under suit for being a fraud, for denying black people housing, and for a literal multitude of financial problems. I look at a middling business man who [B]started[/B] with more money, power, friends, and advice than I could [B]EVER, EVER[/B] have.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51029728]And again, bunguer, wystan, pantz, you guys freely throw insults to demean, degrade, and devalue the people who you disagree with, and you act incencessed and annoyed when you can't do that unopposed.
All I see is hypocrisy, blatant, shameful hypocrisy that you guys are so determined to ignore it's actually making me feel somewhat physically ill to know that there has been 9 months of conversation about this at least and none of it has ever changed one of your minds about anything regarding Trump.[/QUOTE]
Do you not see how you do the same thing? Both sides in fact. You sound so condescending half the time...
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51029728]I look at Trump, I see 473 lawsuits. I see a man who's currently under suit for being a fraud, for denying black people housing, and for a literal multitude of financial problems. I look at a middling business man who [B]started[/B] with more money, power, friends, and advice than I could [B]EVER, EVER[/B] have.[/QUOTE]
But that's the thing... Something called memetic warfare or whatever. The juicy stuff everyone else seems to be going for is Hillary's because Trump's isn't concrete enough for the public to grasp. You've got /pol going on a rampage pushing memes everywhere. They made them stick to Hillary more than Trump.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51029704]So basically, what your talking about is a loose correlation of things you don't like being the downfall of "white" people
I give a shit about outsourcing, but do you know what the cost would be [B]to you[/B] if everything you bought was made in the US? Do you?
Speaking out about globalism doesn't make you a racist, it's the mutlitude of racial slurs that people usually bring along with it blaming other people for their issues.[/quote]
It's not the "downfall of 'white' people," it's the downfall of the white working class. There are plenty of other problems besides this that everyone should be worried about. For example, the black lower class faces an even greater crisis that nobody seems willing to even seriously consider other than SJWs who want people to "acknowledge" and "talk about it." I won't hold my breath to see the result of that initiative. But as far as the rise of Trump is concerned, the diminishing of the white working class this is the main reason.
[quote][B]and again, none of this really speaks to the issue at hand that not one of you has a fucking answer for[/B]
[B]What is Trump going to do to overthrow these globalist overlords you keep speaking about[/B][/quote]
I don't support Trump.
[QUOTE=BioWaster;51029735]Do you not see how you do the same thing? Both sides in fact. You sound so condescending half the time...[/QUOTE]
because when you dodge open easily answered question for 9 months, you start to lose the benefit of the doubt.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51029728]And again, bunguer, wystan, pantz, you guys freely throw insults to demean, degrade, and devalue the people who you disagree with, and you act incencessed and annoyed when you can't do that unopposed.
All I see is hypocrisy, blatant, shameful hypocrisy that you guys are so determined to ignore it's actually making me feel somewhat physically ill to know that there has been 9 months of conversation about this at least and none of it has ever changed one of your minds about anything regarding Trump.
[editline]10th September 2016[/editline]
I look at Trump, I see 473 lawsuits. I see a man who's currently under suit for being a fraud, for denying black people housing, and for a literal multitude of financial problems. I look at a middling business man who [B]started[/B] with more money, power, friends, and advice than I could [B]EVER, EVER[/B] have.[/QUOTE]
Hey screw you pal I haven't said shit to anyone
[QUOTE=wystan;51029742]Hey screw you pal I haven't said shit to anyone[/QUOTE]
yeah you have
you've directly insulted me during the whole "Torture is beautiful" episode about 5 months back.
Reminder to not call each other bad stuff etc...
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51029755]yeah you have
you've directly insulted me during the whole "Torture is beautiful" episode about 5 months back.[/QUOTE]
Listen guys I've learned my lesson from the ban - be PC and all that so let's soothe these flames, get on topic and talk about why Hillary's moves here sucked.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;51029682]There it is.
If you give a shit about outsourcing, the destruction of your community due to de-industrialization, and you don't want power to be increasingly held in the hands of a tiny minority of people, then you're a white nationalist.
This is what I'm talking about HumanAbyss.
[editline]10th September 2016[/editline]
It's kind of a masterstroke for the elite. There's no argument against them unless you want to be a:[/QUOTE]
Your problems aren't going to be fixed just by giving power to someone who puts white people first unless you believe that all of these things are done specifically in the interest of white genocide, which is one of the core beliefs of white nationalism. If you want someone to actually do something about these things then you need to back someone who is not only openly and specifically interested in that, but also has more to say on the matter than just "yeah it sucks". Otherwise you're just voting for comforting words.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51029704]So basically, what your talking about is a loose correlation of things you don't like being the downfall of "white" people
I give a shit about outsourcing, but do you know what the cost would be [B]to you[/B] if everything you bought was made in the US? Do you?
Speaking out about globalism doesn't make you a racist, it's the mutlitude of racial slurs that people usually bring along with it blaming other people for their issues.
[B]and again, none of this really speaks to the issue at hand that not one of you has a fucking answer for[/B]
[B]What is Trump going to do to overthrow these globalist overlords you keep speaking about[/B]
[editline]10th September 2016[/editline]
So you deny the existence of the cult of personality Trump has garnered where he freely said "I COULD SHOOT A PERSON AND YOU'D STILL VOTE FOR ME!"
Or such gems as "Punch him, beat em up, get em out of here, I'll cover your legal bills" or other such tidbits as "Don't you miss the old days where you could just punch a guy in the face"?
Oh no we [B]can't[/B] talk about that with Trump supporters because Hilary is literally the devil, and you'd rather talk about that than anything else, you'd rather speak fire and vitrol than admit the candidate you want is a fucking mess and a disaster that doesn't represent you and that you have to cover, ignore, or apologize for every word out of the mans mouth because every word is a gaffe a week later.[/QUOTE]
The thing you need to understand is that there is enough shit on both candidates that I'm honestly surprised they aren't both in jail or somehow out of the race.
Regardless, as I've said before, Trump says a lot of stupid shit.
The thing that throws me off is that Hillary also says a lot of shit [b]and[/b] has a much darker past and policies - you know, those things that matter for the future of the country? - and somehow it's taboo to criticize her actions and policies.
Why is "Don't you miss the old days where you could just punch a guy in the face" more important than the actual policies they defend and promised?
Wanna know how Trump can be a better candidate than Hillary when it comes to jobs, outsourcing and global economy?
Look no further than the TPP, she has supported the TPP 45 times in the past while Trump firmly opposes it.
Also, Trump has a series of policies regarding raising taxes for outsourced jobs and goods. Which does the help the jobs domestically and might motivate to keep factories inside the country.
But who care about policies right? What matters is that he said "I COULD SHOOT A PERSON AND YOU'D STILL VOTE FOR ME!" in a joking manner.
if i were one of the elites i definitely wouldn't mind that most of the focus is on racial and gender strife and not on economic strife. would keep the heat off of me. still going to end up voting for clinton, though, as trump is not the answer to this issue. too focused on populist nationalism and exploiting the more xenophobic fears of the white working class and very little on the issues of the working class as a whole.
ara jasus now everyone we need to calm down.
Everyone knows Clinton was just saying this as part of the bantz! It's all a bit of good fun, like.
... in a serious post, there is a significant difference in being concerned about 'outsourcing, de-industrilisation and power' and the policies of Trump. Trump to me sounds like a guy who would absolutely concentrate power in his hands - he loves Putin, and Putin sure has ensured he's the leader of Russia, no questions asked. None of the things Trump has suggested anywhere will help middle or working class people in America - in-fact he could make them even worse off, much like Reagan's policies helped make things worse.
Just like how Brexit will make things worse, in the end, for working and middle class individuals in Britain.
we may, hopefully, have a better chance at getting someone more like bernie was 4 or 8 years down the line if we retain the current status quo than we would during the tumultuous period that would be a trump presidency
[QUOTE=BioWaster;51029771]Listen guys I've learned my lesson from the ban - be PC and all that so let's soothe these flames, get on topic and talk about why Hillary's moves here sucked.[/QUOTE]
I don't care about being "politically correct".
I care about being honest, and having real conversation. I care about sharing ideas and actually getting to the bottom of why people support Trump or Clinton. As long as Trump is the opposition, Clinton is going to be the better choice regardless.
I have asked honest questions that should be answerable by Trump supporters who want to have honest conversations. 9 months I have done this, longer no doubt, and 9 months I have not recieved real answers, a real honest attempt to discuss the issues. I have been described using such vapid meaningless terms as "LIEBRAL" and such in an effort to dodge those very conversations.
I'd rather the people who support Trump despite everything he does and says would give me an honest answer as to why they support him, and why they think the things they've been told by a media manipulator for the last 16 months are more true than anything he ever said previously.
This is a man who acts irrationally at the drop of a hat and is uncontrollable, and is aiming for the highest office in the land, if the supporters of him can't lay out strong reasoning as to why he's the answer for the problems they say he'll fix, then what are we even going to get out of this
[editline]10th September 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=bunguer;51029783]The thing you need to understand is that there is enough shit on both candidates that I'm honestly surprised they aren't both in jail or somehow out of the race.
Regardless, as I've said before, Trump says a lot of stupid shit.
The thing that throws me off is that Hillary also says a lot of shit [b]and[/b] has a much darker past and policies - you know, those things that matter for the future of the country? - and somehow it's taboo to criticize her actions and policies.
Why is "Don't you miss the old days where you could just punch a guy in the face" more important than the actual policies they defend and promised?
Wanna know how Trump can be a better candidate than Hillary when it comes to jobs, outsourcing and global economy?
Look no further than the TPP, she has supported the TPP 45 times in the past.
Also, Trump has a series of policies regarding raising taxes for outsourced jobs and goods. Which does the help the jobs domestically and might motivate to keep factories inside the country.
But who care about policies right? What matters is that he said "I COULD SHOOT A PERSON AND YOU'D STILL VOTE FOR ME!" in a joking manner.[/QUOTE]
His policies? You mean the ones that are either vague, or have been agreed to be flat out fucking DISASTROUS for the USA and global economies?
Those ones? OH I talk about those but you people ignore it when it comes to that and insist his plans will be perfect when nothing suggests that.
You're dodging harder than Rip Torn in Dodgeball.
[QUOTE=Conscript;51029397]SJWs are basically leftists whose message makes money and correlates with the vision elites themselves have for their own nations. It's no coincidence that while on one hand migrants solve labor shortages or tip the balance of the market in the employer's favor, they also provide a left leaning voting demographic for left wing parties that have been gutted of the historic post-war socialist-lite economic character by neoliberalism and have thus lost their own native working class vote.
It's little coincidence that blue labor, for example, said the class war was over and the issue was social exclusion. It's little coincidence that bernie declared that whites don't know poverty. This is the only space these people have left to agitate after the death of socialism, and it fundamentally doesn't change anything.
Being a SJW means retreating from economics into culture war to achieve ends, and this is a money making opportunity for obvious reasons. What marx saw in capitalism as a historically progressive force that erodes national borders and blurs cultural differences is the foundation for this alliance in an economically globalized world simultaneously griping with the legacy of the 20th century and its ideological battles.[/QUOTE]
all the "SJWs" I know are basically fucking communists and a hell of a lot of them are poor so I really don't see your argument at all
also "it fundamentally doesn't change anything" is patently false unless you specifically only consider the lives of white, straight dudes. living now vs living in the 50s are literal worlds apart for women, ethnic minorities, gender/sexual minorities, disabled people - transgender people in particular are starting to be able to openly live lives worth living now. the past is worlds apart from the present.
did it occur to you that most gay people are poor? that most trans people are also poor? that most black people are poor? the minorities aren't hoarding all the gold from the "real" working class - in most cases they are in fact the working class
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51029755]yeah you have
you've directly insulted me during the whole "Torture is beautiful" episode about 5 months back.[/QUOTE]
Yea well sorry
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51029797]I don't care about being "politically correct".
I care about being honest, and having real conversation. I care about sharing ideas and actually getting to the bottom of why people support Trump or Clinton. As long as Trump is the opposition, Clinton is going to be the better choice regardless.
I have asked honest questions that should be answerable by Trump supporters who want to have honest conversations. 9 months I have done this, longer no doubt, and 9 months I have not recieved real answers, a real honest attempt to discuss the issues. I have been described using such vapid meaningless terms as "LIEBRAL" and such in an effort to dodge those very conversations.
I'd rather the people who support Trump despite everything he does and says would give me an honest answer as to why they support him, and why they think the things they've been told by a media manipulator for the last 16 months are more true than anything he ever said previously.
This is a man who acts irrationally at the drop of a hat and is uncontrollable, and is aiming for the highest office in the land, if the supporters of him can't lay out strong reasoning as to why he's the answer for the problems they say he'll fix, then what are we even going to get out of this[/QUOTE]
Now I could've sworn I've seen someone go on and type a paragraph about why they support him, I think it was RIPBILLYMAYS, and he gave his honest reasons and beliefs as to why he supports him, but typically you (or others) just don't accept that answer, so it becomes futile even bothering justifying our support since the end result is the same. I may say I want to vote for him because I agree of his views on Gun Control and taking better care of our vets, and typically that response is met with "Yea, but what about the time he said this, HOW CAN YOU SUPPORT THAAAAT?", no answer satisfies y'all. That's why (I think) most of us don't bother spelling it out for you.
[B]just because the elite are comfortably able to make concessions in the cultural arenas doesn't make those concessions worthless. [/B] almost everyone I know who cares about the cultural issues cares about structural economic inequality just as much or more
[QUOTE=Turnips5;51029830][B]just because the elite are comfortably able to make concessions in the cultural arenas doesn't make those concessions worthless. [/B] almost everyone I know who cares about the cultural issues cares about structural economic inequality just as much or more[/QUOTE]
If we want to compare anecdotes, I can say that the exact opposite is true in my case. To the point where people in some of my classes have characterized economic inequality as nothing more than a distraction.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;51029832]If we want to compare anecdotes, I can say that the exact opposite is true in my case. To the point where people in some of my classes have characterized economic inequality as nothing more than a distraction.[/QUOTE]
that's fair enough. anecdotes are anecdotes. that sounds insane though. I've literally heard nobody ever say that
[QUOTE=wystan;51029827]Yea well sorry
Now I could've sworn I've seen someone go on and type a paragraph about why they support him, I think it was RIPBILLYMAYS, and he gave his honest reasons and beliefs as to why he supports him, but typically you (or others) just don't accept that answer, so it becomes futile even bothering justifying our support since the end result is the same. I may say I want to vote for him because I agree of his views on Gun Control and taking better care of our vets, and typically that response is met with "Yea, but what about the time he said this, HOW CAN YOU SUPPORT THAAAAT?", no answer satisfies y'all. That's why (I think) most of us don't bother spelling it out for you.[/QUOTE]
It's based on misinformation, yeah, I'm not going to consider it good enough
So you go from "I NEVER INSULTED YOU" to "sorry, I guess I did"?
Do you see why it's so fucking hard to take you seriously? You did, you lied about it, and now that we're back on the same page I'm supposed to be pleased with you having spent the majority of that argument talking shit about me and the others who were involved
It isn't about 'Oh he said this crazy thing'. He's said a million crazy things. Isn't the fact he's said [B]so many[/B] crazy things of concern? How about the fact he flips on his own word based on a weekly basis? Or that it took Brietbart media mogul Stephen Bannon to control the man(Bannon has a horrible reputation) and that it can't bode well for the trump Presidency to have Bannon calling the shots as he is.
What about the numerous policies he's released that have been looked at by experts and verified as bad plans? Do we ignore the fact that's happened too?
You know what you Trump supporters have an advantage on?
The man makes a new mistake every day. He makes so many mistakes, we can't keep track of them, so you guys can always say "You guys are just too mean to Trump you're just jumping on this gaffe or that gaffe, none of it focuses on the man though!". The problem is, yeah it does. It focuses SOLELY on him as the one SOLELY saying these things, putting out horrible policies and thinking he's the grand fucking master of [B]every[/B] element of field of politics.
Nothing is ever good enough for you. You always have another reason to fall back to because you always have another gaffe to point to as a support system for why he's not that bad.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51029797]I don't care about being "politically correct".
I care about being honest, and having real conversation. I care about sharing ideas and actually getting to the bottom of why people support Trump or Clinton. As long as Trump is the opposition, Clinton is going to be the better choice regardless.
I have asked honest questions that should be answerable by Trump supporters who want to have honest conversations. 9 months I have done this, longer no doubt, and 9 months I have not recieved real answers, a real honest attempt to discuss the issues. I have been described using such vapid meaningless terms as "LIEBRAL" and such in an effort to dodge those very conversations.
I'd rather the people who support Trump despite everything he does and says would give me an honest answer as to why they support him, and why they think the things they've been told by a media manipulator for the last 16 months are more true than anything he ever said previously.
This is a man who acts irrationally at the drop of a hat and is uncontrollable, and is aiming for the highest office in the land, if the supporters of him can't lay out strong reasoning as to why he's the answer for the problems they say he'll fix, then what are we even going to get out of this
[editline]10th September 2016[/editline]
His policies? You mean the ones that are either vague, or have been agreed to be flat out fucking DISASTROUS for the USA and global economies?
Those ones? OH I talk about those but you people ignore it when it comes to that and insist his plans will be perfect when nothing suggests that.
You're dodging harder than Rip Torn in Dodgeball.[/QUOTE]
You demand honesty and say I dodge arguments, but I've given specific policies on his program such as a 15% tax on outsourced jobs, refusal to go ahead on the TPP deal and a 20% tax on imported goods.
Yet, you've given me nothing but generic babble. I can find you multiple articles that say "flat out fucking DISASTROUS for the USA and global economies" for both Hillary and Trump. So unless you have a future reading device, I suggest that you take any hyperbolic article with such a title with a large truck of salt.
I personally find that Hillary has some good policies in certain categories and Trump has good policies in other categories.
It's very difficult to agree with 100% of each program policies and I become very skeptic of any person who says so.
Just the fact that it's so difficult to criticize certain Hillary actions and policies or otherwise support certain policies of Trump without receiving non-argumentative backlash (aka comments of character, not of policies) shows how difficult it is to maintain a moderate position.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;51029832]If we want to compare anecdotes, I can say that the exact opposite is true in my case. To the point where people in some of my classes have characterized economic inequality as nothing more than a distraction.[/QUOTE]
Never heard that even on the internet
The main focus of most people who want equality is that poverty is the cause of all of our issues
but you know what, sure, we'll run with your reality.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51029849]Never heard that even on the internet
The main focus of most people who want equality is that poverty is the cause of all of our issues
but you know what, sure, we'll run with your reality.[/QUOTE]
i don't know if you can make such an assertion that your view is the true reality without backing it up with statistical evidence of people's actual opinions on the issues. otherwise, you're using anecdotes as much as they are.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51029843]It's based on misinformation, yeah, I'm not going to consider it good enough
So you go from "I NEVER INSULTED YOU" to "sorry, I guess I did"?
Do you see why it's so fucking hard to take you seriously? You did, you lied about it, and now that we're back on the same page I'm supposed to be pleased with you having spent the majority of that argument talking shit about me and the others who were involved
It isn't about 'Oh he said this crazy thing'. He's said a million crazy things. Isn't the fact he's said [B]so many[/B] crazy things of concern? How about the fact he flips on his own word based on a weekly basis? Or that it took Brietbart media mogul Stephen Bannon to control the man(Bannon has a horrible reputation) and that it can't bode well for the trump Presidency to have Bannon calling the shots as he is.
What about the numerous policies he's released that have been looked at by experts and verified as bad plans? Do we ignore the fact that's happened too?
You know what you Trump supporters have an advantage on?
The man makes a new mistake every day. He makes so many mistakes, we can't keep track of them, so you guys can always say "You guys are just too mean to Trump you're just jumping on this gaffe or that gaffe, none of it focuses on the man though!". The problem is, yeah it does. It focuses SOLELY on him as the one SOLELY saying these things, putting out horrible policies and thinking he's the grand fucking master of [B]every[/B] element of field of politics.
Nothing is ever good enough for you. You always have another reason to fall back to because you always have another gaffe to point to as a support system for why he's not that bad.[/QUOTE]
This is exactly what I was talking about.
Also didn't think you took words over a forum so seriously, like damn I'm just a stranger, I almost feel flattered.
[QUOTE=bunguer;51029845]You demand honesty and say I dodge arguments, but I've given specific policies on his program such as a 15% tax on outsourced jobs, refusal to go ahead on the TPP deal and a 20% tax on imported goods.
Yet, you've given me nothing but generic babble. I can find you multiple articles that say "flat out fucking DISASTROUS for the USA and global economies" for both Hillary and Trump. So unless you have a future reading device, I suggest that you take any hyperbolic article with such a title with a large truck of salt.
I personally find that Hillary has some good policies in certain categories and Trump has good policies in other categories.
It's very difficult to agree with 100% of each program policies and I become very skeptic of any person who says so.[/QUOTE]
The man wants to bring Tarriffs back.
Yeah, that is disastrous for the US economy no matter how you cut it.
The TPP is seeing wide spread dropping of support world wide. Clinton has dropped her support, I don't trust her on that but she has publicly done so.
Trump has 0 policies of merit, they all seem throw away and half baked.
[editline]10th September 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=wystan;51029874]This is exactly what I was talking about.
Also didn't think you took words over a forum so seriously, like damn I'm just a stranger, I almost feel flattered.[/QUOTE]
no just you lied, I have a good memory so sue me for fucking using it
[editline]10th September 2016[/editline]
it's really anything to dodge the issues isn't it wystan
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51029889]The man wants to bring Tarriffs back.
Yeah, that is disastrous for the US economy no matter how you cut it.
The TPP is seeing wide spread dropping of support world wide. Clinton has dropped her support, I don't trust her on that but she has publicly done so.
Trump has 0 policies of merit, they all seem throw away and half baked.
[editline]10th September 2016[/editline]
no just you lied, I have a good memory so sue me for fucking using it
[editline]10th September 2016[/editline]
it's really anything to dodge the issues isn't it wystan[/QUOTE]
Seemed kinda weird to name drop me for saying mean things that happened 5 months ago, my original retort towards you was because within the thread I said something neutral but apparently I just disparage on the regular. Didn't feel like arguing over old posts so I did what normal humans do and moved on. Continue to be snide, that's fine too.
[QUOTE=wystan;51029925]Seemed kinda weird to name drop me for saying mean things that happened 5 months ago, my original retort towards you was because within the thread I said something neutral but apparently I just disparage on the regular. Didn't feel like arguing over old posts so I did what normal humans do and moved on. Continue to be snide, that's fine too.[/QUOTE]
Whatever you say. Lets just think about it this way
You're disparaging me right now, for having the audacity to remember that some months back, you insulted me out right, and now, I'm the lesser person for having remembered what you've done?
Are you sure you're not just taking this out of the Trump handbook of how to avoid responsibility for things you've said or done?
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