• Convicted paedophile allowed to adopt
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[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;43017179]Are you completely sure on this because I used to have a BDSM fetish but now it's like "wtf no"[/QUOTE] Eh, your loss.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;43016677]You cant rehabilitate a sexuality/fetish.[/QUOTE] rehabilitation in this case means surpressing the urge to act upon that fetish/orientation that attraction might still be there, but he can be brought to the point where he won't even consider anything related to it.
As long as he has been rehabilitated and that child will not be abused I do not see the problem with it. Why should we write off an entire human being because of something they physically/mentally could not control? I suppose that's why I really have a strong respect for countries like Norway, Sweden, Denmark that see these things from a different light. Here in the States he would remain a pariah until the day he dies. Hell, you can't even hardly move into a quiet, safe neighborhood here as a convicted/registered sex offender. We're a step away from scarlett letter-esque treatment; and to me that is just barbaric and inhumane.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;43017179]Are you completely sure on this because I used to have a BDSM fetish but now it's like "wtf no"[/QUOTE] how old were you when you had that fetish [editline]29th November 2013[/editline] just out of curiosity because i doubt you really even had it
[QUOTE=Swebonny;43016562]It's just Swedish news reported in English.[/QUOTE] ...So how trustworthy is it?
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;43018223]how old were you when you had that fetish [editline]29th November 2013[/editline] just out of curiosity because i doubt you really even had it[/QUOTE] Like 15-16 years old
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;43018287]...So how trustworthy is it?[/QUOTE] Seems decent on this. They reference TT (Swedish AP) and i checked some other newspapers reporting on the story and it seems to be about the same
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;43017179]Are you completely sure on this because I used to have a BDSM fetish but now it's like "wtf no"[/QUOTE] so bdsm is what they call it nowerdays [editline]29th November 2013[/editline] i know what you really meant
[QUOTE=Lurklet;43018511]so bdsm is what they call it nowerdays [editline]29th November 2013[/editline] i know what you really meant[/QUOTE] How did you know about my secret anime fetish wtf
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;43018573]How did you know about my secret anime fetish wtf[/QUOTE] dont you try to change the subject you dirty kiddy fiddler
[QUOTE=Lurklet;43018694]dont you try to change the subject you dirty kiddy fiddler[/QUOTE] YOU'RE ONE TO TALK SANTA!!!
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;43016677]You cant rehabilitate a sexuality/fetish.[/QUOTE] You can however control them.
[QUOTE=Lurklet;43018694]dont you try to change the subject you dirty kiddy fiddler[/QUOTE] they're all 500 year old Japanese vampires I swear
Reading the article itself, it doesn't look like there was enough of an investigation in to the man's criminal record, and it doesn't seem like there's any evidence to back up that he won't act again?
I like to think that if you're convicted for a crime you and take your punishment, you're free to do what you want after. But this is a bit different. If it goes wrong, it goes badly wrong so is it worth the risk?
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;43017179]Are you completely sure on this because I used to have a BDSM fetish but now it's like "wtf no"[/QUOTE] "hey let me try to deconstruct your argument with my personal anecdotes"
[QUOTE=Swebonny;43016525]Uh?[/QUOTE] okay i was definitely in favor of the whole "the man is rehabilitated, let him live" but fuck no not after reading this
so do we want pedophilia to be a sexual orientation, making rehabilitation unnecessary and impossible, and also making it dangerous for this man to ever be around children; or do we want it to be a mental condition that can be fixed through rehabilitation, but also implies that it's inherently bad because between this and that russia thread I'm confused help me out guys
[QUOTE=.Lain;43016472]if he has been rehabilitated successfully, then i don't really see the problem. i wouldn't doubt the government keeping a closer eye on him anyways of course tabloids are going to run a mockery of this[/QUOTE] there is no doubt why people would mock this
[QUOTE=Zeke129;43021377]so do we want pedophilia to be a sexual orientation, making rehabilitation unnecessary and impossible, and also making it dangerous for this man to ever be around children; or do we want it to be a mental condition that can be fixed through rehabilitation, but also implies that it's inherently bad because between this and that russia thread I'm confused help me out guys[/QUOTE] They could have rehabilitated his desire for sexually assaulting and harming a child. That does not mean they have rehabilited his sexual attraction to children. Being a paedophile is not at all the same as being a child molester. A good example is always how people can be homosexual but not want to have sex with a guy, because their sexuality collides with their thoughts and morales. You can teach a person to reject a part of themselves, and likewise teach them to accept a part of themselves.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;43021377]so do we want pedophilia to be a sexual orientation, making rehabilitation unnecessary and impossible, and also making it dangerous for this man to ever be around children; or do we want it to be a mental condition that can be fixed through rehabilitation, but also implies that it's inherently bad because between this and that russia thread I'm confused help me out guys[/QUOTE] If it's the former, should we not let pedos around children? Should we selectively prevent certain people from breeding to prevent them from being around children? Should couples take a "pedo test," before we let them have sex? [editline]29th November 2013[/editline] Because as you said, if the former is true them they should just be locked up indefinitely because again, as you said, they can never be safe around children and therefore in public.
[QUOTE=dgg;43021556]They could have rehabilitated his desire for sexually assaulting and harming a child. That does not mean they have rehabilited his sexual attraction to children. Being a paedophile is not at all the same as being a child molester. A good example is always how people can be homosexual but not want to have sex with a guy, because their sexuality collides with their thoughts and morales. You can teach a person to reject a part of themselves, and likewise teach them to accept a part of themselves.[/QUOTE] Providing someone with easy access to their sexual desire but telling them they can't act on it is just as cruel to the pedophile him/herself as putting a child in close proximity to that pedophile
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;43017086]What's this about not being able to remove a fetish, I thought it was possible. But first, what does it mean to "remove a fetish"[/QUOTE] Bachmann-ize it
[QUOTE=Zeke129;43021887]Providing someone with easy access to their sexual desire but telling them they can't act on it is just as cruel to the pedophile him/herself as putting a child in close proximity to that pedophile[/QUOTE] What? Not at all. He chose to adopt his own stepson. Nobody forced him to adopt him, no one told him to do it, it's something he chose for himself. He's only been targeting girls so I think it's also very obvious that he has no interest in fondling his own son. I also believe family value matters, it seems to be more common for paedophiles to conduct incest, but it is highly likely that the "easy access" and "safety" factor has a lot more to do with that than paedophiles just generally being more condoning of incest. Same way not all child molestors are even paedophiles, they just have a need to prove dominance, preying on the weak. Anyways, back to the point. He has chosen to raise his own son, he is not facing himself with a challenge because boys probably doesn't turn him on, it's a family member and being a paedophile does not mean you are heartless and uncaring. If anything he may have chosen to raise his stepson to keep himself busy with other things, or maybe even to grow affectionate of his own son. That way he can grow protective feelings for his son and understand and remind himself of the pain it would bring other parents if anything bad like sexual assault where to happen to their son/daughter. A living reminder for himself. A warning sign of sorts.
I have a problem with this due to the risk of relapse involved with any mental condition.
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