• Riots near St. Louis, MO after black teenager shot
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[QUOTE]FERGUSON, Mo. — Some incidents of looting and vandalism have been reported after a vigil held for an unarmed black man shot and killed by a suburban St. Louis police officer. Police reportedly donned tear gas masks during the vigil for Michael Brown, 18, who died on Saturday after being shot multiple times by a suburban St. Louis police officer. A few thousand people crammed the street where the shooting occurred. One group of young men broke off to spray paint "R.I.P. Michael" on the street, and others placed candles, flowers and a teddy bear at the exact location where Brown was killed. There were reports of windows in a QuikTrip convenience store being broken and the store looted. A liquor store also was damaged and a fire set behind it, according to reporters on the scene. In response Ferguson police have called in an extra 60 officers as well as officers from all surrounding jurisdictions. St. Louis city police are assisting by answering calls in St. Louis County and a St. Louis SWAT team is staging at Ferguson West Florissant tonight. Earlier in the day, shouts of "No justice, no peace" and "We want answers" nearly drowned out a news conference as St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar detailed the shooting. It began with an altercation involving two men and the officer around noon Saturday, Belmar said. One of the men pushed the officer into his patrol car, there was a scuffle inside the car over the officer's gun, and the officer fired one shot inside the cruiser. Seconds later, outside the cruiser, he fired several more shots and 18-year-old Michael Brown lay dead. Brown was unarmed, and all the shell casings found on the ground were from the officer's gun, Belmar said.[/QUOTE] [url=http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/10/st-louis-teen-police-shooting/13856377/]Source[/url] This is still going on, by the way. I live in Missouri and it's all over the news here. Several other stores have also been broken into, but it just happened a few minutes ago.
so justice for this shot man is destroying other people's property riiight
[QUOTE=Zambies!;45654759]so justice for this shot man is destroying other people's property riiight[/QUOTE] You choose to comment on that? It's almost as if people value their property more than they value the lives of black children...
This happens a lot in France. Every time someone from a minority gets injured or dies after obviously stirring up shit with the police, some dipshits come out of their dirty homes and start looting businesses while using the death of someone else as an excuse. Fucking disgusting
Don't shove a police officer into his cruiser and attempt to take his gun from him... how fucking moronic can you be?
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;45654784]Or it's a great way to legitimize the argument "those blacks are violent". There's no excuse to sit and say "yea we're going to go break shit". It sucks that this kid died, but protesting this way is a great way to get people to become enemies to your cause.[/QUOTE] Yeah there's totally nothing disgusting and racist in saying "those blacks are violent" when they're protesting the destruction of their community. If you seriously think that way, you're an awful person. [editline]11th August 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Robman8908;45654787]Don't shove a police officer into his cruiser and attempt to take his gun from him... how fucking moronic can you be?[/QUOTE] Yeah, that sounds really moronic. There are no holes in that narrative at all, black people assault police officers and try to steal their gun from them all the time.
[QUOTE=Sailor Mars;45654796]Yeah, that sounds really moronic. There are no holes in that narrative at all, black people assault police officers and try to steal their gun from them all the time.[/QUOTE] I didn't say anything about him being black.
[QUOTE=Sailor Mars;45654796] Yeah, that sounds really moronic. There are no holes in that narrative at all, black people assault police officers and try to steal their gun from them all the time.[/QUOTE] Yeah man, that damn racist policeman obviously made the whole thing up so he could get away with shooting people, minorities in bad neighborhoods are always completely innocent.
[QUOTE=Robman8908;45654787]Don't shove a police officer into his cruiser and attempt to take his gun from him... how fucking moronic can you be?[/QUOTE] I don't see anything in the article that nearly says that the guy shoving the cop inside the cruiser and trying to take his gun was Brown. Maybe we should wait a bit before calling people fucking moronic.
[QUOTE=Zambies!;45654759]so justice for this shot man is destroying other people's property riiight[/QUOTE] Then they wonder why they pay more taxes
[QUOTE=Robman8908;45654787]Don't shove a police officer into his cruiser and attempt to take his gun from him... how fucking moronic can you be?[/QUOTE] Regardless of whether or not this specific shooting was justified (hell of a stretch); this civil unrest is a product of a current of police brutality against minorities that [b]undeniably[/b] exists. [editline]10th August 2014[/editline] but since a few broke people decide to capitalize on a protest to get some looting done, now the media focus on this story is going to shift to being about how "minorities" are so easy to upset instead of being what it should be: how America has a huge problem with police brutality, which goes doubly for police brutality against minorities.
QuikTrip is in flames. Heard reports that they hit Dollar General, Taco Bell, and Walmart. [editline]10th August 2014[/editline] Shots fired around Walmart, too.
I mean riots happen for all kinds of reasons; Europeans sure seem to love to riot over soccer matches, for example. But for some reason the "black community" will get blamed for these riots and then nobody is going to be talking about police violence anymore.
Officer down Shots fired
What does rioting over some nobody getting shot solve? All it does is cause property damage, casualties, and a bad reputation towards the rioters.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;45654978]I mean riots happen for all kinds of reasons; Europeans sure seem to love to riot over soccer matches, for example. But for some reason the "black community" will get blamed for these riots and then nobody is going to be talking about police violence anymore.[/QUOTE] You're trying to distract from the fact that this [B]is[/B] strictly a riot started by the black community. It is. They are to blame here. I'd advise you check out the footage of it that's available; there's literally no whites rioting or looting or having a go at the police, and if they're smart, they'll stay away. Racial tension is bad enough already as it is. I'm in Columbia right now with some friends; we're planning to head over there tomorrow to check out the situation.
[QUOTE=FunnyStarRunner;45655025]What does rioting over some nobody getting shot solve? All it does is cause property damage, casualties, and a bad reputation towards the rioters.[/QUOTE] Try to put yourself in somebody else's shoes. You've been raised your entire life being (correctly) taught that the system which orders the society around you is stacked against you because of your race. You've probably felt the direct effects of political, social, and economic disenfranchisement more than a few times. Violence is never justified, but people being mad as hell about this is a completely reasonable response. Not everyone can afford the cold, sober aloofness that comes with posting about news articles on a video game forum.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;45654978]I mean riots happen for all kinds of reasons; Europeans sure seem to love to riot over soccer matches, for example. But for some reason the "black community" will get blamed for these riots and then nobody is going to be talking about police violence anymore.[/QUOTE] Lets address a larger issue: Why is it important that we identify the man as one of color.
[t]https://i.imgur.com/X6D2pM8.png[/t] Qwik Trip
[QUOTE=Govna;45655058]You're trying to distract from the fact that this [B]is[/B] strictly a riot started by the black community. It is. They are to blame. [/QUOTE] No, it's not caused by "the black community," it's caused by "individuals." I don't know what you learned in school but I was taught that human beings are autonomous creatures and not hive-minded things like bees or ants.
yup, sounds like st louis. st louis is a pretty bad place to be, its like detroit-lite
[QUOTE=Code3Response;45655060]Lets address a larger issue: Why is it important that we identify the man as one of color.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.civilrights.org/publications/justice-on-trial/race.html"]Because [I][I]men (and women) of color[/I][/I] are brutalized and arrested by the police more often than white men and women.[/URL]
[QUOTE=Sailor Mars;45654770]You choose to comment on that? It's almost as if people value their property more than they value the lives of black children...[/QUOTE] No, its called people value both things, and one shouldn't be taken over the other. Get over yourself.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;45655066]No, it's not caused by "the black community," it's caused by "individuals." I don't know what you learned in school but I was taught that human beings are autonomous creatures and not hive-minded things like bees or ants.[/QUOTE] That's a nice sentiment, but mob mentality is definitely a thing, and you're a fool for thinking otherwise
[QUOTE=katbug;45655101]That's a nice sentiment, but mob mentality is definitely a thing, and you're a fool for thinking otherwise[/QUOTE] But why is it that when black people tear shit up because of mob mentality lots of talking head assholes and angry forums posters rant against the "black community" but nobody ever talks about the "white community" having a "problem with violence" when a mob of sports fans tears apart a town after losing a game? In fact: nobody ever says anything about the "white community" at all, even though it doesn't not-exist any more than the "black community" does.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;45655114]But why is it that when black people tear shit up because of mob mentality lots of talking head assholes and angry forums posters rant against the "black community" but nobody ever talks about the "white community" having a "problem with violence" when a mob of sports fans tears apart a town after losing a game?[/QUOTE] This is what I'm talking about. Why do we care if he is black or not. The headline should read "Unarmed teen shot, killed by police after struggle for gun" then in the article there should be no mention of his race...because it doesnt matter.
[QUOTE=Code3Response;45655130]This is what I'm talking about. Why do we care if he is black or not. The headline should read "Unarmed teen shot, killed by police after struggle for gun" then in the article there should be no mention of his race...because it doesnt matter.[/QUOTE] [B]BUT IT DOES MATTER BECAUSE IT IS SYMPTOMATIC OF A LARGER CULTURAL TREND[/B] Just because a bunch of white people on an internet forum have convinced themselves that they "don't see race" doesn't mean that the rest of the world operates that way. Racism isn't going to go away just because everyone stopped talking about race.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;45655114]But why is it that when black people tear shit up because of mob mentality lots of talking head assholes and angry forums posters rant against the "black community" but nobody ever talks about the "white community" having a "problem with violence" when a mob of sports fans tears apart a town after losing a game? In fact: nobody ever says anything about the "white community" at all, even though it doesn't not-exist any more than the "black community" does.[/QUOTE] Because societially they're two very different things? If there was mob violence based off of "racism against whites", it would absolutely be a problem with the white community
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;45655059]Violence is never justified, but people being mad as hell about this is a completely reasonable response.[/QUOTE] How can something be both reasonable and not justified?
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;45655145][B]BUT IT DOES MATTER BECAUSE IT IS SYMPTOMATIC OF A LARGER CULTURAL TREND[/B] Just because a bunch of white people on an internet forum have convinced themselves that they "don't see race" doesn't mean that the rest of the world operates that way. Racism isn't going to go away just because everyone stopped talking about race.[/QUOTE] [quote]Just because a bunch of white people[/quote] ooh my god he's so cute it's like babby's first debate
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