Skit About Chris Brown Beating Rihanna At High School Pep Rally
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[QUOTE=Protocol7;38060974]I wasn't aware only black people have valid opinions on this.[/QUOTE]
Everyone does, I just find it kinda funny. I'm not trying to debate or anything.
If they want to raise awareness about domestic violence they aren't going to do it at a pep rally. It's a fucking pep rally. They corral all the kids into the gym and get some school spirit going.
I cannot see how blackfacing up and reenacting Chris Brown's domestic violence incident helps any of this.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;38061011]Why do you believe someone who sees a satirical depiction of domestic violence would be somehow desensitized to the issue? The domestic violence doesn't even seem to be the focal point of the message, even though it is definitely one of the areas the most offense stems from. It seems to be making fun of the idea of a celebrity like Chris Brown, shown to be a completely horrible person yet still accepted by society as a person of importance. Even if it was simply making fun of domestic violence, you would be assuming that your audience is a bunch of retarded lemmings to say that they would be swayed towards a complete desensitization towards an issue simply because they saw some kids portray it one time. If there is any place to discuss the seriousness of domestic violence, it is in a place like school. School [i]is[/i] society, because the future members are trained there. By keeping a hush-hush attitude about the issue because it's "too serious" you are just hiding the issue. Yea, by discussing how these things are offensive. Everyone is offended by something, so we need to bring to light what is offensive and why it is offensive with open dialogue. When you say that people shouldn't say something because "someone will be offended" in an authoritative fashion, you keep these things offensive. You tell people that they [i]should[/i] be offended, with no idea why. That kid should speak up and decry this then. I'm not saying the skit is good, or that the skit isn't offensive, I'm saying it shouldn't be censored because otherwise people will never know why it's offensive.[/QUOTE] I highly doubt any person or kid at that pep rally considered the whole acceptance by society thing. They were probably all gawking at the unnecessary skit on domestic violence, enjoying themselves over something that isn't funny or meant to be made fun of. If they see that "oh look man beating woman, people laughing, must be funny, laugh too," in their own minds, they'll start believing that and progressively desensitize them from the issue. And I'm not saying they'll all swing instantly to being desensitized, but it adds to their form of thought, which can mold future thought. That's the problem here. Another problem isn't the fact they're not supposed be discussing it in school, it's that they're [i]making fun of it at a pep rally[/i], you know, where people go to have fun and have school spirit? Not the right environment for discussing such a serious issue. I'm not talking about it being censored from school, but I am talking about actually having it when it matters, like in a health class or something. Of all times, why a pep rally? Why not pick a better time and place? It makes no sense.
I wish we could actually [I]see[/I] the skit so that we could actually judge what the fuck was going on.
But with the information given, all I know is that a bunch of white students painted themselves to look black and made a skit out of a man beating a woman.
Even if you take out the race part of it: they're making a skit out of a domestic violence. It's like if they made a skit out of rape and later went "oh, it was, uh, SATIRE, yeah!"
[QUOTE=Last or First;38061285]I wish we could actually [I]see[/I] the skit so that we could actually judge what the fuck was going on.
But with the information given, all I know is that a bunch of white students painted themselves to look black and made a skit out of a man beating a woman.
Even if you take out the race part of it: they're making a skit out of a domestic violence. It's like if they made a skit out of rape and later went "oh, it was, uh, SATIRE, yeah!"[/QUOTE]
Hi there I'm geel9 and I'm really fucking tired of people using misleading language to make a point.
You said it was as if they made a skit out of rape and later went "oh, it was, uh, SATIRE, yeah!"
Well fuck you that's not what they did. What you said implies that they only said it was satire after they received heat and that they didn't intend for it to be satire beforehand.
It was intended to be satire before it was shown, so your language is misleading and you're making them look like something they aren't
Fuck you.
Satire could still be offensive and harmful, y'know.
[QUOTE=geel9;38061336]Hi there I'm geel9 and I'm really fucking tired of people using misleading language to make a point.
You said it was as if they made a skit out of rape and later went "oh, it was, uh, SATIRE, yeah!"
Well fuck you that's not what they did. What you said implies that they only said it was satire after they received heat and that they didn't intend for it to be satire beforehand.
It was intended to be satire before it was shown, so your language is misleading and you're making them look like something they aren't
Fuck you.[/QUOTE]
I see your point. Yeah, I shouldn't have implied that. [I]I'm[/i] just really fucking tired of people doing harmful shit and passing it off as a joke.
I'm still not sure how domestic violence can be satire.
Unless if we, you know, could actually see what happened.
Also, I love how we're discussing a bunch of people dressing up in blackface and making fun of domestic violence, and what pisses you off is my implying they said it was satire after the fact instead of before. Nice priorities.
[QUOTE=Last or First;38061501]I see your point. Yeah, I shouldn't have implied that. [I]I'm[/i] just really fucking tired of people doing harmful shit and passing it off as a joke.
I'm still not sure how domestic violence can be satire.
Unless if we, you know, could actually see what happened.
Also, I love how we're discussing a bunch of people dressing up in blackface and making fun of domestic violence, and what pisses you off is my implying they said it was satire after the fact instead of before. Nice priorities.[/QUOTE]
What pisses me off is when people are absolutely shit at proper logical arguments.
Why don't they ask the (likely to be) one black kid in the school what he thought
[QUOTE=bull3tmagn3t;38061554]Why don't they ask the (likely to be) one black kid in the school what he thought[/QUOTE]
Because one black child should not be expected (or can't be expected) to represent the entire black community
[QUOTE=Primigenes;38061537]And here I was thinking that most skits were satirical in nature.
And I'm mentioning this because you keep saying skit without knowing what that word means and then you keep doubting their legitimacy. It wouldn't be called a skit if they were serious.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/e59eT.png[/t]
At least put skit in quotations[/QUOTE]
I know what the word skit means, thank you.
Just because something is intended to be funny doesn't mean it's actually funny.
That's my point.
Jesus christ my post really must've been shit for you guys to focus on it so much
Personally I find it amusing that yawmwen has hijacked the notion of wanting to get the issue of domestic violence noticed - a notion that has traditionally been espoused by the Left - not because it is an issue that he genuinely believes needs to be solved, but rather because there are some people who do not wish to see a couple of white kids in blackface beating up a woman in front of an entire audience. Nice.
You ought to get your priorities in order.
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And either way it's not like making fun of an issue that is rooted in societal and institutional inequity is going to make men abuse their spouses less, it just means that you're going to have even [I]fewer[/I] people talking about that issue, because now you've made it look trivial and frivolous to handle i.e. "lol domestic abuse is a joke I don't want to be seen talking about something as silly as that!"
Also [URL="http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/535074/#imagetop"]here's an article talking about sexist humor[/URL]; it might not match up to the exact situation in the news story but you'd likely be able to see how it pertains to it.
I find it hard to believe high school kids have the ability to do satire using such loaded topics such as domestic violence and blackface. If someone is going to do that publically, and it DOES represent the school that allows it, you need to be razor sharp in your approach.
Calling it satire does not somehow protect it from criticism. I think they bit off more than they could chew and whoever was advising them was an idiot(or racist and sexist).
we r all human bengs and r deservd to haved none racisim
why did the school allow them to blackface.
jesus.
And this skit seemed like a good idea why?
Nobody is even paying attention to the fact that there is satire about domestic violence in a school pep rally.
there's a difference between satire and crude charicature
oh my god you guys are all pussies who even gives a fuck
OOOOOHHHHHHH NO, THEY RE-ENACTED A CONTROVERSIAL EVENT FROM POPULAR CULTURE IN ORDER TO PROVOKE LAUGHS FROM THEIR PEERS USING SOME DARK HUMOUR
NEXT STEP THEY'LL JOIN THE KKK AND START THROWING DRINKING GOURDS AT WOMEN
also i just want to point out its common practice in theatre and shit like that (example: skits) to use overly stereotypical costumes/dressups to clearly illustrate what an actor is supposed to be
it'd be different if they walked in with a noose, cross, white bedsheets and a crate of watermelons, but painting yourself the same colour as the people who were involved in the incident to emphasis that fact should be benign to anyone who isn't an oversensitive fuck
Just sounds like one of those red faces acts I saw in high school that made me uncomfortable to watch for like 30 seconds and then that was it. Not really worthy of an international incident.
Stupid fucking media trying to twist things to implicate racism.
Just like the Travon Martin case.
White students wearing blackface, what year is this? Why would anyone think this is appropriate?
[QUOTE=lulzlalz;38066860]Stupid fucking media trying to twist things to implicate racism.
Just like the Travon Martin case.[/QUOTE]
Like it or not, it's not socially acceptable for white people to paint themselves to look like members of other races. Regardless if it was malicious intent or not, they should be aware that this is still an offensive thing to do for a lot of reasons. I don't think these students were meaning to be racist, but living in a 97% white community can surely affect how you view other races
I think the lesson to be learned here is that places still exist that are inhospitable towards other races (and being ignorant to that surely means the domestic violence is not a stretch of understanding either), which in this day and age seems rather ridiculous. America is far from absolving their race issues, and if anything this serves to show how some places might not even fully understand how secluded they are
[QUOTE=Strongbad;38060943]"FREEZE! STOP STABBING THAT CITIZEN!"
"But officer, it's a satirical depiction of murder!"
"Oh, right. Carry on, then."[/QUOTE]
Yeah except there's quite a big difference between being satirical and [B][I][U]actually doing it[/U][/I][/B].
Here's a question to the people who don't see a problem, what's this satire's point? Where is it aimed?
Showing a man beating his girlfriend, a black man and black woman to be accurate, and having the roles played by non black students, specifically using a technique tied to racism- what do you think they are saying here?
What element of the satire demanded domestic violence be portrayed? If no minority students wanted to be in this, why did the people chosen to be portrayed need to be minority? If white students needed to do the roles, why put them in blackface instead of simply having them play their roles using Chris Brown's and Rihanna's names?
If you look at this with the least bit of thought you will realize how stupid this endeavor was from the moment someone conceived of it.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;38067542]Here's a question to the people who don't see a problem, what's this satire's point? Where is it aimed?
Showing a man beating his girlfriend, a black man and black woman to be accurate, and having the roles played by non black students, specifically using a technique tied to racism- what do you think they are saying here?
What element of the satire demanded domestic violence be portrayed? If no minority students wanted to be in this, why did the people chosen to be portrayed need to be minority? If white students needed to do the roles, why put them in blackface instead of simply having them play their roles using Chris Brown's and Rihanna's names?
If you look at this with the least bit of thought you will realize how stupid this endeavor was from the moment someone conceived of it.[/QUOTE]
FUCK YOU
MY NAME IS LAST OR FIRST AND IT REALLY FUCKING PISSES ME OFF WHEN PEOPLE DON'T PUT SATIRE IN QUOTATION MARKS WHEN THEY'RE DOUBTFUL OF ITS COMEDIC VALUE
Seriously though, I agree completely. Saying "oh, it's satire, it's not that big of a deal" is missing the point entirely. Several points, in fact.
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