FBI asks public for help breaking encrypted notes tied to 1999 murder

[3com111]

CSI Miami would put this through their advanced decoder program and get it decoded in a few hours. Should send it to them.

[ludwig]

I'm assuming WLD to be either an acronym or abbreviation. The one written on the bottom of the first page as WLD's seems to denote a possible possessive noun.

[Quq]

its in rot 13

[Hotespresso]

Well anyone knows of a piece of software that is able to find patterns? this would only work if it's encrypted with some kind of algoritme. and not if the letters are randomly re arranged except for the first letter of every word/sentence/paragraph.

[stawicki]

i thought jake gyllenhaal was the killer..

[Dr Magnusson]

[QUOTE=3com111;28888784]CSI Miami would put this through their advanced decoder program and get it decoded in a few hours. Should send it to them.[/QUOTE]
Of course!

Hold on while I make decoder GUI in visual basic

[Hotespresso]

[QUOTE=Dr Magnusson;28889163]Of course!

Hold on while I make decoder GUI in visual basic[/QUOTE]

You don't need all that, just put on the matrix screensaver and make sure you hit the keyboard really fast. And frown like you try really hard to do something.

[img]http://www.google.nl/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://i.imgur.com/QItWV.jpg&sa=X&ei=feaSTY2QJsbrOevo6XU&ved=0CAQQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNGkmvloIMte1Oi0zHTJILfcXAJqMQ[/img]

Look at all those advanced programs running in the background, they must be pros. If the FBI couldn't do it then we don't stand a chance.

[Doctor_Communis]

God dammit internet, stuff like this makes me love you.

[BumpNsubz]

Ok here is my two cents....

I think NCBE is actually saying IN or ON CBE. CBE - Computer Broker Exchange

So the last line of the first page (194 WLD's N CBE) could be part of a list of how many WLD's he found on the CBE

There are a ton of things WLD could be in the computer world, maybe a case or processor or hard drive?

XDR LX is part of the last line of page 2. XDR is external data representation and it uses a base unit of 4 bytes. Right before the XDR LX there is a 4 listed in the sequence. Perhaps these are related somehow?

Next is the sequence on the first page TFXL. Its a ultrasonic flow meter for liquids that you would clamp onto a pipe. Maybe a cooling system for a super computer? The first OS to utilize it was Windows 98.

Right after that is TCXL. CXL was a computer language that modified parts of DOS. It was later named TCXL when a different company bought out the rights to it. That company (Innovative Data Concepts) vanished off the planet between 1998-2000. Perhaps this is related?

I haven't put much time into it, but those parts jumped out at me right away. I know plenty of H.S. dropouts that were very computer savvy. If the victim was inventing some kind of super computer or modifying computer code for a data base and it was a hush-hush thing, or maybe he was doing a side job for someone and when he completed it he was killed for it...if he was that good at making codes since he was a kid, that would lead me to believe he had some talent worthy of computer languages and probably stumbled on to something he wasn't supposed to. If he was inventing something that he didn't want anyone else to figure out, what better way than to write your notes in your own shorthand?

I think for the most part, these notes were shopping notes for parts, or maybe even the instructions and parts of something he was working on. And the 99.84.52 might even be the version of software. Come to think of it I remember using Win98 SE....Second Edition. Perhaps SE stands for Second Edition.

Edit: After taking a second look at the line starting with 99.84.52 or it might be 99.84.5 Z UNE that next part could be p2se not plse. Pentium 2 Second Edition?

[StephWAII]

I've been up workin' on this thing too... I'd have to disagree though, with a post 2 hours ago. I don't believe it's a 'Q', I believe it's an 'R'. This is what I've read it as, after a quick read through:

(MADMKNEARSE-N-S-p9-kNARE) (ALSM)

OTFRNENPKNSENPBSERCBRNSENPRSEINC
PRSENMRSE0PREHLDWLDNCBE(TFXLFTCXLNCBE)
AL-PRPPITXLYPPIYNCBEMGKSEWCORCBRNSGPRSE
WLDRCBRNSGNTSGNENTXSE-CRSLE-CITRSEWLDNCBE
ALW?NCBETSMELRSERLSEURGLSNEASNWLDNCBE
(NOPFSENLSRENCBE)NTEGDDMNSENCURERCBRNE
(TENETFRNENCBRTSENCBEING)
(FLRSEPRSEONDE71NCBE)
(CDNSEPRSEONSDE74NCBE)
(PR+SEPRSEONREDE75NCBE)
(TFN?CMSPSOLEMRDELUSETOTEWLDNWLDNCBE)
(194WLD'SNCBE)(TRFXL)
ALPNTEGLSE-SE ER+E
YLSEMTSE-CTSE-WSE-FRTSE
PNRTRSEONPRSEWLDNCBE
NWLDXLRCMSPNEWLDSTSMEXL
DULMT6TUNSENCBEXC

(MUNSA1STENMUNARSE)
KLSE-LKSTE-TRSE-TRSE-MKSEN-MRSE
(SAE?NSESENMRSE)

NMNRCBRNSEP+E2PTEWSRCBR?SE
36MLSE74SPRKSE29KCNOSOLE?73R+RSE
356LECLGSEUUNUTXEDKRSEPSESHLE
651MTLSEHTLSENCUTCTRSNMRE
99.84.52UNEPLSENCRSEAOLTSENSRSENRSE
NSREONSEPUTSEWCDNCBE(SXORL)

NMSENRSE1N2NTRLERCBRNSENTSRCRSNE
LSPNSENGSPSEMKSERBSENCBEAUXLR
H?C?ENMRENCBE 1/2MUNPPLSC

D-W-M-4M1L XDRLX

[Doc Diddles]

When we solve this shall we head on to solve other mysteries such as Jack the Ripper?

[StephWAII]

By the way, I've noticed many people have gotten the victim, Ricky McCormick, confused with Richard A. McCormick, a moral theologist who died in February of 2000. I'm assuming this is where you got all of the information about a mental hospital? Wrong.

[darqmann]

Right, I'm Brand new to Facepunch and only joined because I couldn't find another forum discussing this issue

I make the text out as

(MAD MKNE ARSE-S-M-KNARE) (ACSM)
OTFRNE NPtNSE NPBSE RCBBNSE NPRSE INC
PRSE NMRSE OPRE HLDWLDNCBE (TFXLF TCXL NCBE)
AL-PRPPIT XLYPPIY NCBE MGKSE INCDRCBRNSE PRSE
WLDRCBRNSE NTSBNEN TXSE-CRSLE-CITRSE WLD NCBE
ALWLP NCBE TSME LRSE RLSE URGLSNEASN WLD NCBE
(NO PFSE NLSRE NCBE) NTEGDDMNSENCURERCBRNE
(TENE TFRNE NCBRTSE NCBE INC)
(FLRSE PRSE ONDE 71 NCBE)
(CDNSE PRSE ONSDE 74 NCBE)
(PRTSE PRSE ONREDE 75 NCBE)
(TFNR CMSP SOLE MRDE LUSE TOTE WLD N WLD NCBE)
(194 WLD's NCBE)(TRFXL)

The NEN, NCBE, SE, PRSE, WLD's have all been pointed out.
SInce this was hand written with a number of crossings out I'd suggest that this is not a machinedependant cipher and is more likely a form of shorthand with simple substitutions, this actually would make it harder to decipher because the patterns will not be algorithmic.

The largest clue to who this whole thing works is probably the three indented parenthesesed lines that appear to be itarative in some way.

I look forward to the discussion.

[Zero Ziat]

i wake up and oh god what have i done

:frogsiren:[b]VIRGINAL FORUM MEMBERS AIDS FBI TOWARD CAPTURE OF SERIAL KILLER[/b]:frogsiren:

just kidding, good job there people :buddy:

[editline]30th March 2011[/editline]

i've got no idea if what you are doing is right, or if it is even right but heck, it's better than anything i can do

[Sourcream&o]

I looked at the note for a few minutes, and when the letters didn't rearrange themselves in my head like they do on tv I gave up.

[Apple Pi]

Has anybody ever thought that there might be some sort of mathematical process to decoding it?

[darqmann]

Oh, at the end of page 2 (or tghe other page as it is un lableled)

it reads D-W-M-Y MIL XDRLX

I interpret the first bit to say Day - Week - Month - Year
I'm not sure how that helps unless it is saying that the following eight charachters reperesent that so

MI LX DR LX is a date? or that possibly the use of hyphens on the first page are date related to perhaps ARSE-S-M-KNARE and TXSE-CRSLE-CITRSE are date related?

thoughts?

[dannass]

Keep this thread going god damn it! I wish i could contribute but i'm too stupid.

[alexk]

The MI LX DR LX look like roman numerals..SO NUMBERS!

In roman numeral's;
MI = 1001
LX = 60

There's no "R"'s in roman numerals, so I can't really get a number from there

[Arbieq]

I took this from 4chan
[QUOTE=anon]FLRSE PRSE ONDE 71 NCBE
CDNSE PRSE ONSDE 74 NCBE
PRTSE PRSE ONREDE 75 NCBE

When I look at that on the note, I'm pretty sure that reads; first person, second person and third person?[/QUOTE]

if that's right, then 71, 74, and 75 could be years.

[Hotespresso]

Would be funny if all of this will just translate into: ur a faget

[Ergolicious]

[QUOTE=Hotespresso;28890470]Would be funny if all of this will just translate into: ur a faget[/QUOTE]

no

[darqmann]

[QUOTE=alexk;28890400]The MI LX DR LX look like roman numerals..SO NUMBERS!

In roman numeral's;
MI = 1001
LX = 60

There's no "R"'s in roman numerals, so I can't really get a number from there[/QUOTE]

I thought Latin too until I saw the R in there, the whole thing reads a bit like classical latin though, the romans did tend to abbreviate words into four or 5 letter blocks separated by dots, I'm fairly sure this isn't like that though.

The indenting and parantheses looks awfully programming-language-like but is most likely the wrong tree to bark up.

[booster]

I take that back, this thread is more like

[img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_r6-8RFKoj0g/SzxVEOYhoWI/AAAAAAAAAP0/uIZadCfv2I0/s320/ZodiacMovieCapture.jpg[/img]

[chuck8773]

He doesn't write M's uppercase. This is more likely HIL XDRLX. Possibly HPL XDRLX.

[Alex_V]

Murderer is either a troll,dyslectic or just damn good at stayng hidden.

[cdlink14]

[QUOTE=darqmann;28890275]Oh, at the end of page 2 (or tghe other page as it is un lableled)

it reads D-W-M-Y MIL XDRLX

I interpret the first bit to say Day - Week - Month - Year
I'm not sure how that helps unless it is saying that the following eight charachters reperesent that so

MI LX DR LX is a date? or that possibly the use of hyphens on the first page are date related to perhaps ARSE-S-M-KNARE and TXSE-CRSLE-CITRSE are date related?

thoughts?[/QUOTE]

When I saw he "MIL" the first thing I thought of was Millenium.

Also searching millenium on google brought up this:
[URL]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115270/[/URL]
A former FBI profiler with the ability to look inside the mind of a killer begins working for the mysterious Millennium Group.

[editline]30th March 2011[/editline]

[QUOTE=alexk;28890400]The MI LX DR LX look like roman numerals..SO NUMBERS!

In roman numeral's;
MI = 1001
LX = 60

There's no "R"'s in roman numerals, so I can't really get a number from there[/QUOTE]

"R" in medieval roman numerals usually represents "80"

[rakkar]

[QUOTE=alexk;28890400]The MI LX DR LX look like roman numerals..SO NUMBERS!

In roman numeral's;
MI = 1001
LX = 60

There's no "R"'s in roman numerals, so I can't really get a number from there[/QUOTE]

According to Wikipedia, "R" was sometimes used in medieval times as 80.

This would make the numbers:
1001
60
580
60

Which makes no sense to me, but maybe someone else sees something in it?

[cdlink14]

[QUOTE=rakkar;28890646]According to Wikipedia, "R" was sometimes used in medieval times as 80.

This would make the numbers:
1001
60
580
60

Which makes no sense to me, but maybe someone else sees something in it?[/QUOTE]

all numbers added together = 1701. Probably nothing, but just thought I'd point that out.

[l33tkill]

We shouldn't single out just roman numerals. Look at the letters surrounding the numerals. At least start looking for dates/times/ect..
Random numbers wouldn't show up unless he was keeping a count of something that he had to remember later on in a short period of time.
1001,60, 580 wouldn't be that hard to remember after a few days, so I'm thinking he would rather write down "complex" numbers. Like 5275/6923/ect.
Remember that he was a dropout, but was street smart.

[editline]30th March 2011[/editline]

Think like the victom