FBI asks public for help breaking encrypted notes tied to 1999 murder - Polidicks

[QUOTE=chuck8773;28890610]He doesn't write M's uppercase. This is more likely HIL XDRLX. Possibly HPL XDRLX.[/QUOTE] Looking more carefully you are right, it seems more likely to be HPL XDRLX also I'm not convinced that it's a Y any more although there are no other Y's in the text to compare, some suggest that it's a 4 and it does have a similar form to the 4 on page 1 in "CDNSE PRSE ONSDE 74 NCBE" so I'm scrapping the day-week-month-year idea :(

the note says jews did 911

[QUOTE=darqmann;28890768]Looking more carefully you are right, it seems more likely to be HPL XDRLX also I'm not convinced that it's a Y any more although there are no other Y's in the text to compare, some suggest that it's a 4 and it does have a similar form to the 4 on page 1 in "CDNSE PRSE ONSDE 74 NCBE" so I'm scrapping the day-week-month-year idea :([/QUOTE] P1 has two Y's.

[QUOTE=abcpea2;28890772]the note says jews did 911[/QUOTE] Quickly grab your phone and dial 911 for more evidence.

what we need is that autistic kid from Mercury Rising. and Bruce Willis in case people try to kidnap him.

[QUOTE=chuck8773;28890961]P1 has two Y's.[/QUOTE] Where are the Y's? Oh wait, there, yes - In which case, that is definately a 4 on P2

The people who registered just for this thread seem to be the only ones actually contributing.

Oh fuck I knew I lost these somewhere... err that's just a grocery list, nothing to see here, hehe... shit

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;28891627]Oh fuck I knew I lost these somewhere... err that's just a grocery list, nothing to see here, hehe... shit[/QUOTE] A heavily encrypted grocery list it is.

[QUOTE=ionuttzu;28883688]Hmm maybe you have a point there, the PI surely wouldn't be circled for nothing.[/QUOTE] Ages late probably but it just means its page 1.

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;28891627]Oh fuck I knew I lost these somewhere... err that's just a grocery list, nothing to see here, hehe... shit[/QUOTE] But the writer was murdered..

Long shot but the is a Banner Elk North Carolina. Highway 194 runs through it. 194 WLD'S NCBE NCBE = North Carolina Banner Elk?

I'm guessing he may have been at a library prior to being killed. I imagine he would have needed something to write on, which may have proven difficult out in the field where he was found. He may have known he was being pursued by his murderer(s). A public facility with lots of people around may have provided him a temporary sanctuary. If he was to leave additional information it may very well be within one of the books at a library. Maybe 99.84.52 is a dewey decimal reference. If i'm not mistaken that would place it among 'manuscripts and book rarities'.

Saw this yesterday but didn't have any place to suggest it until I found this thread: (FLRSE PRSE ONDE 71 NCBE) (CDNSE PRSE ONSDE 74 NCBE) (PRTSE PRSE ONREDE 75 NCBE) The victim was found on June 30th. Could the 71, 74 & 75 actually mean: July 1 July 4 July 5 Considering it would be the same week, these numbers being dates seemed to make sense to me. Also... total long stretch, but all three dates correspond with the 1999 St. Louis Cardinals baseball season. I don't know squat about sports, but I figured if someone did, they may see something in the code such as player stats, etc.

[QUOTE=ludwig;28892097]I'm guessing he may have been at a library prior to being killed. I imagine he would have needed something to write on, which may have proven difficult out in the field where he was found. He may have known he was being pursued by his murderer(s). A public facility with lots of people around may have provided him a temporary sanctuary. If he was to leave additional information it may very well be within one of the books at a library. Maybe 99.84.52 is a dewey decimal reference. If i'm not mistaken that would place it among 'manuscripts and book rarities'.[/QUOTE] The FBi believes that the notes could have been written up to 3 days before his death, so its possible he wrote them when he was not in any immediate danger but felt that something was going to happen to him soon.

I hope I wake up tomorrow to find out that facepunch found out who the murderer is.

Page 1 broken into it's smallest repeating components (MAD MK NE AR SE-S-M-KNARE) (ACSM) TFR NE NP tN SE NPB SE RC BBN SE NPR SE INC PR SE NMR SE OP RE HLD WLD NC BE (TFX LF TC XL NC BE) AL-PR PP IT XLY PP IY NC BE MGK SE INC DRC BRN SE PR SE WLD RC BRN SE NT SB NEN TX SE-CRS LE-CI TR SE WLD NC BE AL WLP NC BE TS ME LR SE RL SE UR GL SN EA SN WLD NC BE (NO PF SE NL SRE NC BE) NT EG DD MN SE NC URE RC BRN E (TE NE TFR NE NC BRT SE NC BE INC) (FLR SE PR SE ON DE 71 NC BE) (CDN SE PR SE ON S DE 74 NC BE) (PRT SE PR SE ON RE DE 75 NC BE) (TF NR CM SP SO LE MR DE LU SE TO TE WLD N WLD NC BE) (194 WLD's NC BE)(TRF XL) I am wondering if the code is constructed of 2 0r 3 letter blocks.

[QUOTE=cdlink14;28890656]all numbers added together = 1701. Probably nothing, but just thought I'd point that out.[/QUOTE] That number... It's familiar for some reason.. OH: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmwo-VbwSdQ&feature=channel_video_title[/media] But what does it mean...

It's actually ascii art of the killers face :v: (smoking a cigarette)

[QUOTE=toredem;28892106]Saw this yesterday but didn't have any place to suggest it until I found this thread: (FLRSE PRSE ONDE 71 NCBE) (CDNSE PRSE ONSDE 74 NCBE) (PRTSE PRSE ONREDE 75 NCBE) The victim was found on June 30th. Could the 71, 74 & 75 actually mean: July 1 July 4 July 5 Considering it would be the same week, these numbers being dates seemed to make sense to me. Also... total long stretch, but all three dates correspond with the 1999 St. Louis Cardinals baseball season. I don't know squat about sports, but I figured if someone did, they may see something in the code such as player stats, etc.[/QUOTE] If that is true, all three of those lines could refer to certain baseball games, where the first grouping of letters stands for the opposing team (considering the letters vary between each other save for the last grouping of letters "SE"), PRSE could stand for "At" or "Vs.", and the last grouping of letters stands for St. Louis as the letters in the sequence all start with "ON". Also, if these were all home games, the letters "NCBE" could possibly stand for "Home." Probably nothing, but still worth noting.

[QUOTE=Teh_Spork;28883349]It might not be in English. [editline]29th March 2011[/editline] I wish we were given more background. It might help.[/QUOTE] Frequency analysis can be used to determine what language it is in if it's a classic cypher. But it will not be that easy and the FBI would already have done it. If you have no knowledge or if it is very limited there really isn't any point in even trying to decipher this unless you are some kind of wiz kid or have a LOT of time on your hands. Why is this on the FBI page? [quote] Breaking any code involves four basic steps: 1. determining the language used; 2. determining the system used; 3. reconstructing the key; and 4. reconstructing the plaintext. Consider this cipher: Nffu nf bu uif qbsl bu oppo. Now apply the four steps: 1. Determining the language allows you to compare the cipher text to the suspected language. Our cryptanalysts usually start with English. 2. Determining the system: Is this cipher using rearranged words, replaced words, or perhaps letter substitution? In this case, it’s letter substitution. 3. Reconstructing the key: This step answers the question of how the code maker changed the letters. In our example, every character shifted one letter to the right in the alphabet. 4. Reconstructing the plaintext: By applying the key from the previous step, you now have a solution: Meet me at the park at noon. [/quote] Have they even tried what you guys are doing now? [QUOTE=raBBish;28893130]I don't know if anyone's been following Something Awful's discussion on this, but they've found an interesting idea. Some think that it's not a cipher, but a shorthand writing system of some kind. It's still a total crapshoot, the above was the result of couple people wondering how the two first looked like "first person" and "second person", someone else wondered how "ncbe" might be some kind of measurement.[/QUOTE] Someone already said it could be shorthand and that it could be 1st 2nd and 3rd person was said as well but not that it could be inches.

[QUOTE=Lalelalala;28892929]wiz kid or have a LOT of time on your hands.[/QUOTE] Welcome to Facepunch, we sort of have the second in huge amounts but the first one is a little bit more rare.

I don't know if anyone's been following Something Awful's discussion on this, but they've found an interesting idea. Some think that it's not a cipher, but a shorthand writing system of some kind. [quote]Both of these appeal to my instincts as well. I'm not really basing this on much of anything, but these three lines: (flrse prseonde71ncbe) (cdnseprseonsde74ncbe) (prtseprseonrede75ncbe) Kind of look like: (first person is 71 inches) (second person is 74 inches) (third person is 75 inches) Those are all reasonable heights for people, and it's the sort of thing you'd put in parentheses. I do think this code is a combination of code words and switching letters around, and removing letters from, real words.[/quote] It's still a total crapshoot, the above was the result of couple people wondering how the two first looked like "first person" and "second person", someone else wondered how "ncbe" might be some kind of measurement.

The guy was obviously dyslexic. :smug:

[QUOTE=Bakyte;28893593]The guy was obviously dyslexic. :smug:[/QUOTE] are you basing this on personal experience :smug:

[QUOTE=Binladen34;28885785]Get someone with dyslexia to read it.[/QUOTE] Nope it's still gibberish :v:

Thinking outside the box NCBE Could this be Medieval abbreviation NCBE = 90 6 300 250 or maybe 96325 96325 is zip code for San Francisco

Hmmm. Few possibilities 1. This guy is a massive troll to a degree were not thinking of. 2. These notes were meant for him only and was not meant to be interpreted. Like you could sit here all day and come up with random things you see in the patterns but it wont mean jack shit because it's by definition indecipherable. 3. Having read the background info on the man the codes could pertain to locations he's been tied into dream state euphorias of conscious being that was created at those locations, this would explain the inconsistances in the code plus the idea of being able to manipulate his memory would add to the mistakes. So i think approaching this in the aspect that all the letters and numbers arn't to be used. Only a select few is a better way to do so. 4. Im just drunk and this is mind fucking me.

Could MIL mean Million? Just a wild guess but meh.

[img]http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b215/Ziat/tupaohshit.png[/img] mommy am i helping :v: