• Russell Crowe sorry after anti-circumcision tweets
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[QUOTE=layla;30385098]thanks for proving my point[/QUOTE] we proved your point by asking why you feel bad for a people that have a different penis from you (i guess) I feel bad for uncirc'd people because they constantly try to put down circ'd people and cause entire arguments for some reason [editline]11th June 2011[/editline] Though if you ask me, the reason isn't hard to see [editline]11th June 2011[/editline] (or maybe it is hard to see for some of them) [editline]11th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=layla;30385076]i feel sorry for circ'd people they so insecure[/QUOTE] we're the insecure ones? it's most certainly the other way around as evidenced by your post here, trying to make a point in a thread about your penis.
[QUOTE=STeel;30385074]This popular scientific belief is is coming from the lots of studies around it. To quote you: "a damn good study floating around" that backs it up and this common sense you speak of is also from a scientific fact - Nerves are what causes you to physically feel things.[/QUOTE] ugh, the number of studies does not matter the quality does and there are several quality studies that contradict each other on this matter you never actually quoted a study, you quoted me, I'm not a study just because nerve endings do a thing doesnt mean that without 20k of them youll be some defunct human being that significantly doesn't feel sensations from their dick
[QUOTE=Gaza Pen Pal;30385066]it really doesn't matter what popular scientific opinion is, if theres a damn good study floating around that goes against popular opinion then uh you shouldnt look it over. and your saying losing nerve endings will decrease sensation and all that is common sense, but the idea of common sense has been raped over and over again by scientific fact. just because something seems right doesn't mean it is.[/QUOTE] The studies that prove circumcision has adverse sexual effects are "damn good". What I find hilarious is that none of this aids your argument at all. All we've established is that this is a very controversial subject. In this case, why should we force this on babies? Several studies show circumcision affects sensitivity and sexual performance, and while there's no definitive proof for either side, it's still a generally accepted theory. So why force circumcision on a baby that has no say in it? Why should we be allowed to unnecessarily force something permanent on a baby that has no say in it, especially when this could lead to negative effects later on in life?
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;30385111]we proved your point by asking why you feel bad for a people that have a different penis from you (i guess) I feel bad for uncirc'd people because they constantly try to put down circ'd people and cause entire arguments for some reason [editline]11th June 2011[/editline] Though if you ask me, the reason isn't hard to see [editline]11th June 2011[/editline] (or maybe it is hard to see for some of them) [editline]11th June 2011[/editline] we're the insecure ones? it's most certainly the other way around as evidenced by your post here, trying to make a point in a thread about your penis.[/QUOTE] cool generalize thirty percent of the male population on earth
[QUOTE=Gaza Pen Pal;30385138]cool generalize thirty percent of the male population on earth[/QUOTE] 30% of the male population is uncirc'd? that's weird dude
[QUOTE=Zachary1392;30384083]while we're at it let's just cut off the earlobes of every baby! not a big difference here, earlobe or no earlobe[/QUOTE] Stop posting.
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;30385147]30% of the male population is uncirc'd? that's weird dude[/QUOTE] whelp 70 percent is uncircd 30 is circd PUI
[QUOTE=Gaza Pen Pal;30385123]ugh, the number of studies does not matter the quality does and there are several quality studies that contradict each other on this matter you never actually quoted a study, you quoted me, I'm not a study just because nerve endings do a thing doesnt mean that without 20k of them youll be some defunct human being that significantly doesn't feel sensations from their dick[/QUOTE] You were talking about popular belief. I said why is it a popular belief, and yes there's quality studies for both sides of this argument, and I don't see what does it have to do with me personally quoting a study or not; It's not like nobody here had presented a countering study to yours. I was never saying that with less nerve endings you'd be a "defunct human being", but explain this: Uncircumcised people do feel pain when they peel their foreskin back and rub it against a surface, such as cloth, whereas circumcised people don't, or at least, not to an unbearable degree.
Why the fuck is he sorry? If anything, the other people should apologize to him.
[QUOTE=Gaza Pen Pal;30385157]whelp 70 percent is uncircd 30 is circd PUI[/QUOTE] oh, well i was more generalizing the uncirc'd so...well, I dunno. Both peoples are just people with different penises, anyone making jabs at either sides are insecure (and maybe i did make a jab, but that was only to prove a point)
[QUOTE=STeel;30385162]You were talking about popular belief. I said why is it a popular belief, and yes there's quality studies for both sides of this argument, and I don't see what does it have to do with me personally quoting a study or not; It's not like nobody here had presented a countering study to yours. I was never saying that with less nerve endings you'd be a "defunct human being", but explain this: Uncircumcised people do feel pain when they peel their foreskin back and rub it against a surface, such as cloth, whereas circumcised people don't, or at least, not to an unbearable degree.[/QUOTE] i would explain it by telling you to read that google docs link i posted
[QUOTE=Gaza Pen Pal;30385188]i would explain it by telling you to read that google docs link i posted[/QUOTE] Proof that you have no idea what you're talking about.
[QUOTE=Gaza Pen Pal;30385188]i would explain it by telling you to read that google docs link i posted[/QUOTE] Iv'e read them, so far their analysis counters the simple fact that when circumcised people rub their bare foreskin against any kind of surface, it hurts a lot, which is, by the way another cause to that popular belief. They offer no explanation to that, unless I have overlooked one of the studies which I did read thoroughly, in which case please do quote a phrase regarding this.
[QUOTE=STeel;30385221]Iv'e read them, so far their analysis counters the simple fact that when circumcised people rub their bare foreskin against any kind of surface, it hurts a lot, which is, by the way another cause to that popular belief. They offer no explanation to that, unless I have overlooked one of the studies which I did read wholly, in which case please do quote a phrase regarding this.[/QUOTE] that happens?
ITT: People who are unsecure about their dicks argue against cicumsicion. Who the fuck cares. It's not like the world would automagically become a better place if you abolish circumsicion. Nothing will change.
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;30385240]that happens?[/QUOTE] To every uncircumcised male. It's also not a secret that skin hardens and/or loses sensitivity when it has a lot of friction with other surfaces that are harder than what it's used for. [QUOTE=PunchedInFac;30385245]ITT: People who are unsecure about their dicks argue against cicumsicion. Who the fuck cares. It's not like the world would automagically become a better place if you abolish circumsicion. Nothing will change.[/QUOTE] Can't you say this about almost every argument? Talking about something on these forums will never change anything, so why bother at all? I mean, maybe I just feel like enlightening other people with my insights, and see what do they have to say, that must be a crazy thing to do on a web forum.
[QUOTE=PunchedInFac;30385245]ITT: People who are unsecure about their dicks argue against cicumsicion. Who the fuck cares. It's not like the world would automagically become a better place if you abolish circumsicion. Nothing will change.[/QUOTE] If you have nothing to contribute then go away.
[QUOTE=Zachary1392;30385271]If you have nothing to contribute then go away.[/QUOTE] He's fucking right dude, why can't you see through your insecurity that you are trying to hide with your freedom fighting to see how pointless it really is
[QUOTE=Zachary1392;30385271]If you have nothing to contribute then go away.[/QUOTE] If you have no desire to accept that what you are arguing is trivial at best then go away.
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;30385274]He's fucking right dude, why can't you see through your insecurity that you are trying to hide with your freedom fighting to see how pointless it really is[/QUOTE] The only thing pointless here is the snipping of foreskin off babies. And your posts.
[QUOTE=STeel;30385265]To every uncircumcised male. It's also not a secret that skin hardens and/or loses sensitivity when it has a lot of friction with other surfaces that are harder than what it's used for. And what does it have to do with insecurity.[/QUOTE] You're trying to prove that being uncircumcised is superior to being circumcised where most people don't actually care for it. [editline]11th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Zachary1392;30385283]The only thing pointless here is the snipping of foreskin off babies. And your posts.[/QUOTE] Oooh, Ad hominem.
[QUOTE=Zachary1392;30385283]The only thing pointless here is the snipping of foreskin off babies. And your posts.[/QUOTE] You're just angry I oppose you, stop being so immature dude. It isn't pointless, it has its benefits, and either way it has like no negatives, I cannot imagine I'm missing anything with my penis being circ'd
[QUOTE=PunchedInFac;30385294]You're trying to prove that being uncircumcised is superior to being circumcised where most people don't actually care for it.[/QUOTE] I'm not trying to prove this. At no point in this thread did I say that being uncircumcised is superior or inferior to people who are circumcised, get your facts straight.
[QUOTE=PunchedInFac;30385294]You're trying to prove that being uncircumcised is superior to being circumcised where most people don't actually care for it.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure we're both just arguing that forced circumcision on perfectly healthy babies is wrong. [editline]11th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Tetracycline;30385303]You're just angry I oppose you, stop being so immature dude. It isn't pointless, it has its benefits, and either way it has like no negatives, I cannot imagine I'm missing anything with my penis being circ'd[/QUOTE] You're the one that called me insecure. I'd say that's pretty immature, especially since you've barely provided any arguments. There are little benefits for circumcision for the average person. It some extreme cases it can be beneficial, but for the most part it's pointless and only leads to less penis sensitivity later on in life.
[QUOTE=Zachary1392;30385305]Pretty sure we're both just arguing that forced circumcision on perfectly healthy babies is wrong. [editline]11th June 2011[/editline] You're the one that called me insecure. I'd say that's pretty immature, especially since you've barely provided any arguments. There are little benefits for circumcision for the average person. It some extreme cases it can be beneficial, but for the most part it's pointless and only leads to less sensitivity later on in life.[/QUOTE] Does it detract anything from quality of life and health? No.
[QUOTE=Zachary1392;30385305]Pretty sure we're both just arguing that forced circumcision on perfectly healthy babies is wrong. [editline]11th June 2011[/editline] You're the one that called me insecure. I'd say that's pretty immature, especially since you've barely provided any arguments. There are little benefits for circumcision for the average person. It some extreme cases it can be beneficial, but for the most part it's pointless and only leads to less penis sensitivity later on in life.[/QUOTE] why the fuck do i need to give you proof? I don't give a fuck, and I know most regular not bitch whiney people don't give a fuck about their circumcision either, because it doesn't matter unless you try to make it a big deal!
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;30385360]why the fuck do i need to give you proof? I don't give a fuck, and I know most regular not bitch whiney people don't give a fuck about their circumcision either, because it doesn't matter unless you try to make it a big deal![/QUOTE] Yeah, let's just continue snipping up baby dicks for no reason because it's just no big deal and who cares!
[QUOTE=Zachary1392;30385395]Yeah, let's just continue snipping up baby dicks for no reason because it's just no big deal and who cares![/QUOTE] You see the problem here is that is exactly what I'm thinking because it's actually true
Why are you so against giving people a choice when it comes to circumcision?
[QUOTE=Zachary1392;30385410]Why are you so against giving people a choice when it comes to circumcision?[/QUOTE] I'm not, I just don't think it really matters either way
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