• CDC: 50 years after the Measles vaccine, and 2013 has TRIPLE the expected number of cases. 90% of ca
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[QUOTE=Tophat;43156086]Less and less people in my community are going for vaccines, and they seem to be better off without it. Everybody I know of that have received the vaccinations seem so sick for days after they get it. Most pro-vaccine people seem quite mentally unclear, it's like they've lost a piece of their mind. I've done my research and vaccines seem quite ridiculous, how could somebody prepare you for a wave of sickness that they've predicted? Well educate me if you want, I'm open to learning more, but as things stand right now most of us around here steer away from vaccines, and we all seem perfectly fine.[/QUOTE] I really hope you're not a troll and you're actually going to come back to this thread and read the replies, but getting sick after getting a vaccine is common. That means it's working. Nobody is giving you a vaccine because they "predicted" you'll get sick, it's to prevent it from even being a possibility in the first place.
[QUOTE=Laputa;43157024]22:17 what the fuck he just has no idea, that woman as well[/QUOTE] Are you sure you have the right video?
um this increase in cases is OBVIOUSLY from our reptilian overlords going round and infecting people on purpose to try and push their mass vaccination (i.e. mass pacification) agenda by making it appear that we need to inject more vaccines (blood poison) have fun being mind controlled by vaccines and chemtrails and fluoride and all the chemicals in your food ron paul 2k20
[QUOTE=Talishmar;43157266]Are you sure you have the right video?[/QUOTE] My bad, I watched it on youtube then found the full episode then had a brainfart and reffered to that :v:
I'm not going to tell people not to get vaccinated, but I still have a problem with the attitude of doctors I've seen towards vaccines. I feel the many doctors feel vaccines are 'infallible'. I know I brought it up a couple months ago in another vaccine thread; but when I was getting my vaccines updated (didn't have them when I was young for a few reasons) they told me to watch for reactions with 48 hours. Well, as luck would have it just after the 48 hour mark, I broke out in a horrible rash, among other far worse symptoms, and was hospitalized for almost 3 weeks. During that whole time the doctors all insisted "It must be something else, it couldn't have been the vaccines." That is the attitude that ticks me off about vaccines. They are a good thing that have done wonders for society, but they are not perfect, and if they cause problems for some people I'd at least like doctors to [I]consider[/I] that possibility.
Sad Trumpet Time. Wah wah wahhhhhhhhh [QUOTE=Tophat;43156086]I've done my research and [B][U]vaccines seem quite ridiculous[/U][/B], how could somebody [B][U]prepare you for a wave of sickness that they've predicted?[/U][/B][/QUOTE] Seriously, you didn't think at all before making that post.
[QUOTE=Dr.Critic;43152940][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfdZTZQvuCo[/media] This sketch is the reason I began to watch Penn and Teller. People that oppose vaccinations disgust me.[/QUOTE] So you are disgusted by me for opposing vaccinations, i got narcolepsy and catalepsy from the swineflu vaccination and from now on i only take vaccination if i can see or hear from relatives that they are getting sick and it's no fucking cold but serious shit? Are you disgusted by me? [editline]12th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Xonax;43154931]Vaccinations do not cause Autism.[/QUOTE] There were cases in the mass vaccination against the swineflu [editline]12th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=J!NX;43156275]and even worse are faith healers if a faith healer was hit by a bus I wouldn't flinch[/QUOTE] Iv'e seen some strange shit but it wasn't faith healing it was like pseudo medicine treatment, it's like you are directing or trick the unconscious mind that they feel more positive or better and they get better by feeling great but the sickness isn't gone but they heal faster because they think they are. Some cool hypnosis [editline]12th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=lirro433;43159223] Iv'e seen some strange shit but it wasn't faith healing it was like pseudo medicine treatment, it's like you are directing or trick the unconscious mind that they feel more positive or better and they get better by feeling great but the sickness isn't gone but they heal faster because they think they are. Some cool hypnosis[/QUOTE] I think it works because the immune systems works better if the person is happy and feels like they are improving or something correct me if i'm wrong
[QUOTE=lirro433;43159223]There were cases in the mass vaccination against the swineflu[/QUOTE] Source?
[QUOTE=lirro433;43159223]There were cases in the mass vaccination against the swineflu [/QUOTE] You don't "get" autism, you're born with it. Stop spewing bullshit
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;43159408]Source?[/QUOTE] [URL="http://phys.org/news172252051.html"]http://phys.org/news172252051.html[/URL] [QUOTE]Complicating the issue further is the possibility that the link between autism and vaccines (if there is one) may not be clear cut. It's entirely possible that vaccines may trigger autism in children who are "genetically susceptible" to the disease. It's also possible that it is not any one vaccine (or vaccine component) that can be linked to autism -- but rather the fact that so many vaccines are given in so short a time -- that may cause trigger the onset of autism. Read more at: [url]http://phys.org/news172252051.html#jCp[/url][/QUOTE] [URL="http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/evidence-overwhelming-that-h1n1-swine-flu-vaccine-causes-harm/"]http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/evidence-overwhelming-that-h1n1-swine-flu-vaccine-causes-harm/[/URL] [QUOTE]He surmised the data would “surely favor vaccines that have been given for 21 years over those that have been recently introduced, because such vaccines will have been given much more, and so will have produced many more symptoms. In other words, this graph should de-emphasize the H1N1 Flu vaccine, which has existed for just one year. We should see relatively few H1N1-related miscarriage events compared with the “Seasonal” Flu vaccine which has been administered to many more patients. However, the VAERS data proved him wrong. Dr. Rubin acknowledges the “results are shocking. First of all, the H1N1 Flu vaccine has appeared in miscarriage events more often than almost any other vaccine.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.naturalnews.com/033816_swine_flu_vaccines_neurological_disorders.html#"]http://www.naturalnews.com/033816_swine_flu_vaccines_neurological_disorders.html#[/URL] [QUOTE]There is absolutely no question in the mind of any reasonably informed person that vaccines cause neurological damage, including (but not limited to) autism. Learn more: [url]http://www.naturalnews.com/033816_swine_flu_vaccines_neurological_disorders.html##ixzz2nHX47Ynb[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Elv02;43158974]I'm not going to tell people not to get vaccinated, but I still have a problem with the attitude of doctors I've seen towards vaccines. I feel the many doctors feel vaccines are 'infallible'. I know I brought it up a couple months ago in another vaccine thread; but when I was getting my vaccines updated (didn't have them when I was young for a few reasons) they told me to watch for reactions with 48 hours. Well, as luck would have it just after the 48 hour mark, I broke out in a horrible rash, among other far worse symptoms, and was hospitalized for almost 3 weeks. During that whole time the doctors all insisted "It must be something else, it couldn't have been the vaccines." That is the attitude that ticks me off about vaccines. They are a good thing that have done wonders for society, but they are not perfect, and if they cause problems for some people I'd at least like doctors to [I]consider[/I] that possibility.[/QUOTE] I'm seriously sorry to hear that and I hope you are much better now. However your case was clearly an issue with the doctors that treated you, not with vaccines. Anything and everything you put into your body has an effect on it and every medicine has side effects, from common to rare. You should have been warned of the potential side effects (which I assume you were since you were told to watch for reactions for 48 hours) and the doctors should have definitely considered your recent vaccination as a source of your reaction, although I really would have loved to talk to the physicians that have treated you and heard their point of view as well.
[QUOTE=lirro433;43159589][quote]There is absolutely no question in the mind of any reasonably informed person that vaccines cause neurological damage, including (but not limited to) autism. Learn more: [url]http://www.naturalnews.com/033816_sw...#ixzz2nHX47Ynb[/url][/quote][/QUOTE] Oh thats a fantastic idea, call me stupid because I believe vaccinating a child is better than leaving them and everyone around them wide open to the shit that vaccines were invented for.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;43159663]Oh thats a fantastic idea, call me stupid because I believe vaccinating a child is better than leaving them and everyone around them wide open to the shit that vaccines were invented for.[/QUOTE] I don't tell you not to vaccinate you and other people, but don't fall for the stupid ones such as H1N1 as i did and got b..b.b..rain damage called narcolepsy and catalepsy. Lucky for me i got meds for both my issues. Question them and think first before you take one, i will vaccinate in the future take if the threat is obvious.
[QUOTE=lirro433;43159701]I don't tell you not to vaccinate you and other people, but don't fall for the stupid ones such as H1N1 as i did and got b..b.b..rain damage called narcolepsy and catalepsy. Lucky for me i got meds for both my issues. Question them and think first before you take one, i will vaccinate in the future take if the threat is obvious.[/QUOTE] How Obvious does it have to be?
Don't fall for stupid shit like the H1N1, learn from the past and you avoid getting narcolepsy and catalepsy. Catalepsy is a bitch, you lose muscle tone when your emotions spike and after some months the brain starts to filter emotions so you don't fall or lose balance and you become without hobbies, motivation and you become a asshole and lose friends both close and not close. People need to tell you to do things otherwise you just lie in bed all day. Recently i got meds for catalepsy and i have never felt more alive then ever. [editline]12th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=KennyAwsum;43159730]How Obvious does it have to be?[/QUOTE] Do some research, gut feeling, if it's not lethal and dangerous don't take it only if you are old or have other health issues. My father felt strange about the H1N1 but the letter that came in the mailbox about the outbreak made it feel like if you don't vaccinate your kids and tell your close ones to vaccinate they will die. [editline]12th December 2013[/editline] The friends i lost doesn't' care about the reason for my behavior because it's easier to ignore than accept and perhaps get guilt feelings, but i only cared about one of them very much but i guess she had to choose between hangout with the sociopath and delusional or with them. I became delusional because i tried to kill myself but i didn't even have motivation enough to do it it was like i had no feelings toward any direction so it was easier to believe in 2012 ending of the world because i was to dead inside to do anything.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;43154873]I think he's tied with Thomas Midgley, the guy who came up with both leaded gasoline and freon[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=elixwhitetail;43154917]He had the decency to have one of his own [B]~bright ideas~[/B] kill him. He was crippled with polio at age 51 and invented an elaborate system of pulleys and levers to help him get out of bed. It malfunctioned one day when he was 55, tangling him up and strangling him.[/QUOTE] Midgley was actually apologetic and torn up about leaded gasoline IIRC, and that's why he came up with freon. Talk about bad luck.
I haven't gotten a flu vaccine in... well years. I don't remember the last time I got one. Yeah I get the flu on occasion, but I quarantine myself and muscle through it. Booster shots though for children? You bet your ass I'm having them done, you don't fuck around with Measles and its friends.
[QUOTE=lirro433;43159589][URL="http://phys.org/news172252051.html"]http://phys.org/news172252051.html[/URL] [URL="http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/evidence-overwhelming-that-h1n1-swine-flu-vaccine-causes-harm/"]http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/evidence-overwhelming-that-h1n1-swine-flu-vaccine-causes-harm/[/URL] [URL="http://www.naturalnews.com/033816_swine_flu_vaccines_neurological_disorders.html#"]http://www.naturalnews.com/033816_swine_flu_vaccines_neurological_disorders.html#[/URL][/QUOTE] Just a little tip when people ask for a source in a scientific context they usually mean peer reviewed and established journals, not crackpot websites with the tagline "Real News Powered by the People, Naturally". [editline]12th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Drsalvador;43159842]Midgley was actually apologetic and torn up about leaded gasoline IIRC, and that's why he came up with freon. Talk about bad luck.[/QUOTE] Plus Midgley was a brilliant chemist who came up with solutions to very important problems with the tools and information he had at the time, not someone who manipulated data to achieve his own goals and destroying lives in the process.
[QUOTE=lirro433;43159589][URL="http://phys.org/news172252051.html"]http://phys.org/news172252051.html[/URL] [URL="http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/evidence-overwhelming-that-h1n1-swine-flu-vaccine-causes-harm/"]http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/evidence-overwhelming-that-h1n1-swine-flu-vaccine-causes-harm/[/URL] [URL="http://www.naturalnews.com/033816_swine_flu_vaccines_neurological_disorders.html#"]http://www.naturalnews.com/033816_swine_flu_vaccines_neurological_disorders.html#[/URL][/QUOTE] Those last 2 sources are awful. Also: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H1N1_Vaccine#Thiomersal[/url] That's quite a few studies finding no link between the vaccine and autism. There was found to be a possible link between the vaccine and narcolepsy, however.
[QUOTE=lirro433;43159589[URL="http://www.naturalnews.com/033816_swine_flu_vaccines_neurological_disorders.html#"]http://www.naturalnews.com/033816_swine_flu_vaccines_neurological_disorders.html#[/URL][/QUOTE] This is the same website which claims that eating garlic is a cure for the plague.
[QUOTE=lirro433;43159771] The friends i lost doesn't' care about the reason for my behavior because it's easier to ignore than accept and perhaps get guilt feelings, but i only cared about one of them very much but i guess she had to choose between hangout with the sociopath and delusional or with them. I became delusional because i tried to kill myself but i didn't even have motivation enough to do it it was like i had no feelings toward any direction so it was easier to believe in 2012 ending of the world because i was to dead inside to do anything.[/QUOTE] No, I'm sorry, but coming from someone who has spoken to multiple friends when they've in the middle of a suicidal spiral you are talking horseshit. Nobody that depressed and down would freely discuss it as a point in an argument. And if you're not talking horseshit, then you're just a cunt for using genuine issues to get the upper hand in a discussion.
[QUOTE=lirro433;43159589][URL]http://phys.org/news172252051.html[/URL] [URL]http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/evidence-overwhelming-that-h1n1-swine-flu-vaccine-causes-harm/[/URL] [URL]http://www.naturalnews.com/033816_swine_flu_vaccines_neurological_disorders.html#[/URL][/QUOTE] Your first article has zero substance to it. It's using maybes as fear mongering. "It's entirely possble." That statement has zero value. Hell, the title of the article is about mercury content, and the article attempts to link that shit again [B]despite this very thing having been utterly shit on by every facet of the scientific community[/B]. Any credibility it could have had instantly went out the window. The second source and third sources are filled with articles preaching alternative medicine like herbal treatments. I seriously doubt the accuracy of any statistic represented there as there is no way of knowing how heavily the context for them has been distorted. That's assuming that they aren't publishing outright fabrications. Find a source that isn't shit please.
Also if mercury was that dangerous in such low dosages, Japan would have absolutely [I]insane[/I] numbers of autistic people, as would any other primarily fish eating countries.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;43160614]Also if mercury was that dangerous in such low dosages, Japan would have absolutely [I]insane[/I] numbers of autistic people, as would any other primarily fish eating countries.[/QUOTE] If you want to force your opinion on uninformed people, then exaggerate & pad the numbers.
[QUOTE=lirro433;43159589][URL="http://www.naturalnews.com/033816_swine_flu_vaccines_neurological_disorders.html#"]http://www.naturalnews.com/033816_swine_flu_vaccines_neurological_disorders.html#[/URL][/QUOTE] NaturalNews is in no way an unbiased or acceptable source. Take that shit out of here.
[video=youtube;4tUz0sq-BVs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tUz0sq-BVs[/video] Can't understand why anyone hasn't posted this yet [editline]12th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=elixwhitetail;43161884]NaturalNews is in no way an unbiased or acceptable source. Take that shit out of here.[/QUOTE] Oh and sorry for that here instead [URL="http://www.cbsnews.com/news/family-to-receive-15m-plus-in-first-ever-vaccine-autism-court-award/"]http://www.cbsnews.com/news/family-to-receive-15m-plus-in-first-ever-vaccine-autism-court-award/[/URL]
[QUOTE=lirro433;43162361][video=youtube;4tUz0sq-BVs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tUz0sq-BVs[/video] Can't understand why anyone hasn't posted this yet [editline]12th December 2013[/editline] Oh and sorry for that here instead [URL="http://www.cbsnews.com/news/family-to-receive-15m-plus-in-first-ever-vaccine-autism-court-award/"]http://www.cbsnews.com/news/family-to-receive-15m-plus-in-first-ever-vaccine-autism-court-award/[/URL][/QUOTE] What I'm reading: "She got a fever from the vaccine (which tends to happen) and was diagnosed with autism at the age where signs of autism become apparent" Suprising
[QUOTE=Tobba;43162631]What I'm reading: "She got a fever from the vaccine (which tends to happen) and was diagnosed with autism at the age where signs of autism become apparent" Suprising[/QUOTE] Well then she shouldn't get any money right, but wait? [editline]12th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE]the government said vaccines aggravated an unknown mitochondrial disorder Hannah had which didn't "cause" her autism, but "resulted" in it. It's unknown how many other children have similar undiagnosed mitochondrial disorder.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=lirro433;43162643]Well then she shouldn't get any money right, but wait?[/QUOTE] Its the US legal system, take anything that comes out of it with the dead sea
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