Father Shoots Daughter's Computer For Disrespectful Facebook Post
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[QUOTE=CyrusTehSage;34634782]This is actually really good parenting.[/QUOTE]
How can you say this is good parenting with a straight face? She made a 'disrespectful' facebook post, so he puts like 7 rounds into her laptop? What the fuck? Just take it away for good. Maybe even sell it. Why would you destroy it? To prove a point? What the fuck? And what the hell is a father doing with a 45, let alone hollow point rounds? Nobody else thinks that's kind of fucked up?
Furthermore, you can't remand respect. It doesn't work that way. If somebody doesn't respect you, you don't make them respect you, especially not by doing something highly disrespectful right back. It's moronic. He needs to have a long, and proper talk with his daughter. Not go behind her back and shoot apart her laptop and publicly humiliate her. He's just as bad as she is, no wonder she acts the way she acts. "You went behind my back and did something incredibly disrespectful for all to see, so I'm going to go behind yours and do something just as if not more disrespectful, for even more people to see." What a great role model, this will definitely teach her how to respond properly to things in the future!
[QUOTE=Comrade Lurker;34646508]Curious, what is the 'correct' answer then?[/QUOTE]
well he could have easily just skipped the "shooting it and posting it on facebook part".
[QUOTE=thisispain;34646514]obviously this doesn't imply to rolling dice?[/QUOTE]
Thats not related. Rolling dice is designed to use environmental variables to randomize the results as much as possible. Brushing teeth is designed to clean teeth. Rolling dice 3 times in the same fashion, assuming that this is as "normal" a roll as possible, is designed to be different each time. Now if you were rolling them repeatedly, expecting snake eyes every time and ignoring the fact that its simply not gonna happen, then that is insanity.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;34646521]How can you say this is good parenting with a straight face? She made a 'disrespectful' facebook post, so he puts like 7 rounds into her laptop? What the fuck? Just take it away for good. Maybe even sell it. Why would you destroy it? To prove a point? What the fuck? And what the hell is a father doing with a 45, let alone hollow point rounds? Nobody else thinks that's kind of fucked up?[/QUOTE]
Remember, this is a forum where people complain that corporal punishment isn't used enough.
[QUOTE=Melkor;34646518]Anything that doesn't include me shooting her laptop in front of the entire world. There are a variety of punishments that are more severe than taking her laptop away for a few months that I could employ.[/QUOTE]
In other words you have no idea, you just don't like his method.
[editline]11th February 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=thisispain;34646522]well he could have easily just skipped the "shooting it and posting it on facebook part".[/QUOTE]
Except they've done that before, didn't have any effect.
Now what?
So basically the father shoots her laptop over something that is common in teenagers. Complaining. What does he do? Instead of just talking simple with his daughter, he records him shooting the laptop, embarrassing her, probably making her social life living hell. I can't believe people are calling the father a good parent. A good parent doesn't ruin their son or daughter's social life over a goddamn facebook post, when they could of just discussed it between each other.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;34646538]Thats not related. Rolling dice is designed to use environmental variables to randomize the results as much as possible. Brushing teeth is designed to clean teeth. Rolling dice 3 times in the same fashion, assuming that this is as "normal" a roll as possible, is designed to be different each time. Now if you were rolling them repeatedly, expecting snake eyes every time and ignoring the fact that its simply not gonna happen, then that is insanity.[/QUOTE]
yeah, totally.
but seriously, it's pretty easy to just keep talking and discussing with the kid. i mean this wasn't some crazy out-of-control kid and i'm pretty sure they've gotten past these issues without resorting to viral video making.
[QUOTE=Crash15;34646553]So basically the father shoots her laptop over something that is common in teenagers. Complaining. What does he do?[B] Instead of just talking simple with his daughter,[/B] he records him shooting the laptop, embarrassing her, probably making her social life living hell. I can't believe people are calling the father a good parent. A good parent doesn't ruin their son or daughter's social life over a goddamn facebook post, when they could of just discussed it between each other.[/QUOTE]
Done it before, ineffective. Now what?
-double post-
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;34646544]
Except they've done that before, didn't have any effect.
Now what?[/QUOTE]
define "didn't have any effect".
unless you were there and could scientifically conclude that none of these methods had any effect at all (a laughable assertion), you don't really have any reason to say that.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;34646566]Done it before, ineffective. Now what?[/QUOTE]
Confiscating his/her possessions. Like, you know, lock the laptop in the safe?
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;34646544]In other words you have no idea, you just don't like his method.
[editline]11th February 2012[/editline]
Except they've done that before, didn't have any effect.
Now what?[/QUOTE]
Uhh no.
I just didn't think I had to outline every possible punishment to get my point across.
[QUOTE=Atlascore;34646555]Oh boy this again, no one said it needed to be used more, and if they did it was a troll.[/QUOTE]
I'm not talking about this thread specifically. I know it's been a common viewpoint in past threads though.
[QUOTE=thisispain;34646561]yeah, totally.
but seriously, it's pretty easy to just keep talking and discussing with the kid. i mean this wasn't some crazy out-of-control kid and i'm pretty sure they've gotten past these issues without resorting to viral video making.[/QUOTE]
Other families, sure, may have fixed issues like this without resorting to his methods. But they didn't. The viral video embarrassed her, and now she is talking with her family and moving on, she is actually cooperating. What about her or anything here says that she would have cooperated if they skipped the video? She hasn't before, whats changed?
[QUOTE=Crash15;34646553]So basically the father shoots her laptop over something that is common in teenagers. Complaining. What does he do? Instead of just talking simple with his daughter, he records him shooting the laptop, embarrassing her, probably making her social life living hell. I can't believe people are calling the father a good parent. A good parent doesn't ruin their son or daughter's social life over a goddamn facebook post, when they could of just discussed it between each other.[/QUOTE]
The 'sit down and talk politely over this with a cup of tea' routine didn't work out so well. Did you even read the last few pages where the father posted the daughter's reaction? People should stop being so limp dick about the fact there are different ways to handle a situation.
Don't overblow the situation that the daughter's life is ruined, because that's where we are today in modern parenting; too scared to hurt or go against our kids.
[QUOTE=Comrade Lurker;34646595]The 'sit down and talk politely over this with a cup of tea' routine didn't work out so well. [/QUOTE]
that's what they did in the end, genius.
[QUOTE=Melkor;34646585]Uhh no.
I just didn't think I had to outline every possible punishment to get my point across.[/QUOTE]
I didn't ask you to outline everything, don't go to the extreme of the spectrum to make my point look wrong.
I asked for an example, and you provided nothing more than "I wouldn't have done that"
[QUOTE=Comrade Lurker;34646595]because that's where we are today in modern parenting; too scared to hurt or go against our kids.[/QUOTE]
modern parenting kicks ass.
i find that society has gotten steadily much better as time has progressed.
especially if you are not white.
[QUOTE=thisispain;34646599]that's what they did in the end, genius.[/QUOTE]
becaaaaaaause of the video, dude. She got a dose of reality from hundreds of thousands of people, and seeing the opinions of those hundreds of thousands, she moved to cooperate.
GODFUCKINGDAMNIT MY AUTOMERGE IS A MESS.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;34646603]I didn't ask you to outline everything, don't go to the extreme of the spectrum to make my point look wrong.
I asked for an example, and you provided nothing more than "I wouldn't have done that"[/QUOTE]
I would have taken away her laptop permanently instead of just for a few months without the use of youtube.
Make her do extra chores too or some shit.
[QUOTE=thisispain;34646607]modern parenting kicks ass.
i find that society has gotten steadily much better as time has progressed.
especially if you are not white.[/QUOTE]
I'll have to politely disagree with that. Sure, parenting back then wasn't as perfect either but I don't see a line of steady progression to the present either.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;34646590]What about her or anything here says that she would have cooperated if they skipped the video?[/QUOTE]
yeah who says she wouldn't have cooperated if they skipped the video?
you're trying to argue this on your terms but your terms aren't 100% established so i have nothing to disprove.
they probably have talked before and it probably did change her behavior. that's kind of part of growing up and being parented.
[editline]10th February 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;34646609]becaaaaaaause of the video, dude. She got a dose of reality from hundreds of thousands of people, and seeing the opinions of those hundreds of thousands, she moved to cooperate.[/QUOTE]
she got a dose of "wow the internet is full of self-righteous dicks."
what moved her to "cooperate" is the fact that they sat down and talked about why that post was hurtful.
[QUOTE=Melkor;34646614]I would have taken away her laptop permanently instead of just for a few months without the use of youtube.
Make her do extra chores too or some shit.[/QUOTE]
More chores pisses her off, she hates what she has enough already.
Taking it away permanently is hard to enforce and she'll find other ways to rebel. (I know this because after losing my computer for... 8 months, I assembled my own in the closet from parts in the basement.)
Back to square one, but now things have escalated. Now what?
[QUOTE=Comrade Lurker;34646595]The 'sit down and talk politely over this with a cup of tea' routine didn't work out so well. Did you even read the last few pages where the father posted the daughter's reaction? People should stop being so limp dick about the fact there are different ways to handle a situation.
Don't overblow the situation that the daughter's life is ruined, because that's where we are today in modern parenting; too scared to hurt or go against our kids.[/QUOTE]
'talk politely' no how about have a serious conversation. i mean in my experience that usually works just fine even with problem children, you don't teach somehow how to behave by behaving badly toward them. you just teach them that resorting to drastic and sometimes violent (shooting a laptop is pretty violent (in message, and in the use of a firearm) and drastic). its the whole two wrongs dont make a right thing. sitting down and confronting your child in a serious discussion is usually enough of a wake up call, you don't need to shoot their stuff. that's pretty negative reinforcement if you ask me. the girl in question is probably going to grow up resenting her parents even more "Yeah when I was young I was kind of disrespectful towards them and then they shot up my belongings I hate my parents"
[QUOTE=Comrade Lurker;34646624]I'll have to politely disagree with that. Sure, parenting back then wasn't as perfect either but I don't see a line of steady progression to the present either.[/QUOTE]
well we know hurting or punishing kids is useless and ineffective because of science and psychological studies.
maybe you don't want to see this line of steady progression.
Reading over the [url=https://www.facebook.com/tommyjordaniii]dad's facebook[/url], he seems like a pretty smart, chill, articulate guy.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;34646644]More chores pisses her off, she hates what she has enough already.
Taking it away permanently is hard to enforce and she'll find other ways to rebel. (I know this because after losing my computer for... 8 months, I assembled my own in the closet from parts in the basement.)
Back to square one, but now things have escalated. Now what?[/QUOTE]
Who's to say that would escalate the situation any more than posting a video shooting hollow point rounds into her laptop?
Seriously never would've expected him to work in IT.
[QUOTE=waxrock;34646654]Reading over the [url=https://www.facebook.com/tommyjordaniii]dad's facebook[/url], he seems like a pretty smart, chill, articulate guy.[/QUOTE]
Uh I don't care how he seems because he's just proven that he's none of these things by taking a live gun to her daughters possession because she made a facebook post he didn't like.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;34646659]Uh I don't care how he seems because he's just proven that he's none of these things by taking a live gun to her daughters possession because she made a facebook post he didn't like.[/QUOTE]
hes my role model
[QUOTE=Rusty100;34646645]'talk politely' no how about have a serious conversation. i mean in my experience that usually works just fine even with problem children, you don't teach somehow how to behave by behaving badly toward them. you just teach them that resorting to drastic and sometimes violent (shooting a laptop is pretty violent (in message, and in the use of a firearm) and drastic). its the whole two wrongs dont make a right thing. sitting down and confronting your child in a serious discussion is usually enough of a wake up call, you don't need to shoot their stuff. that's pretty negative reinforcement if you ask me. the girl in question is probably going to grow up resenting her parents even more "Yeah when I was young I was kind of disrespectful towards them and then they shot up my belongings I hate my parents"[/QUOTE]
Assuming the daughter is actually a somewhat well behaved person in the first place; I'd agree with this statement more if she wasn't such a little ungrateful shit. And besides, how can you say that she'll grow up resenting her parents?
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