[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;18196868]using the time machine, right?[/QUOTE]
Big bang etc etc. Hydrogen forms, forms into stars, fusion happens, which creates new elements from said fusion. I learned this in 9th grade Earth Science. Cmon man.
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[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;18196907]jesus, [B]man you're wrecking the image for the rest of us!
[/B]
ugh, this guy is fucking everything up... ima leave...
R.I.P Christianity.[/QUOTE]
You're equally ridiculous.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;18196907]
R.I.P Christianity.[/QUOTE]
god is dead
and no one cares
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;18196868]using the time machine, right?[/QUOTE]
Hydrogen is the simplest element, of course it's going to develop soon after the Big-Bang.
[QUOTE=Doriol;18196925][B]god is dead
[/B]
and no one cares[/QUOTE]
i remember that from the crucible they p much hung him that sukc.
fuck ya'll intolerant assholes
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;18196969]fuck ya'll intolerant assholes[/QUOTE]
why do you people seem to think that "intolerant" means "you can't disagree with my ideas but I can disagree with yours it's okay"
[QUOTE=Billiam;18196893]Hydrogen is flammable.
Water is not fucking flammable.
Elements are not the same as their compounds, carbon monoxide is a gas in natural form, carbon is a solid.
The properties are different.[/QUOTE]
I was stating the properties of oxygen in order to display the obvious relation between hydrogen being the first element and water most likely being one of the first compounds made because of each others properties.Not to mention hydrogen bonding the fuck out of everything with a valence of electron of out dunno 1. I suppose that wasn't that obvious of a fact.Honestly you decide to test my knowledge of chemistry in order to somehow claim me unworthy of an opinion, I believe the topic was Gay Marriage Repealed in Maine.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;18196969]fuck ya'll intolerant assholes[/QUOTE]
I'm not being intolerant. You're being irrational, and have no evidence or contradiction for any of the scientific explanations of the universe.
Please read up on this shit before you try to argue it.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Big_Bang[/url]
[QUOTE=Doriol;18196995]why do you people seem to think that "intolerant" means "you can't disagree with my ideas but I can disagree with yours it's okay"[/QUOTE]
I've listened to you for a while. I've never told you my beliefs are right and yours are wrong. i told you to stop harrasing people because a majority of them are fucking idiots.
we're [B]not[/B] all like that.
[QUOTE=Dr. Disciple;18196996]I was stating the properties of oxygen in order to display the obvious relation between hydrogen being the first element and water most likely being one of the first compounds made because of each others properties.Not to mention hydrogen bonding the fuck out of everything with a valence of electron of out dunno 1. I suppose that wasn't that obvious of a fact.Honestly you decide to test my knowledge of chemistry in order to somehow claim me unworthy of an opinion, I believe the topic was Gay Marriage Repealed in Maine.[/QUOTE]
I believe you're the wound who started the argument AND made your own initial point for starting the argument moot, and no water was not one of the first compounds created at least as we know it, if I'm not mistaken.
At least on Earth.
[QUOTE=Dr. Disciple;18196996]I was stating the properties of oxygen in order to display the obvious relation between hydrogen being the first element and water most likely being one of the first compounds made because of each others properties.Not to mention hydrogen bonding the fuck out of everything with a valence of electron of out dunno 1. I suppose that wasn't that obvious of a fact.Honestly you decide to test my knowledge of chemistry in order to somehow claim me unworthy of an opinion, I believe the topic was Gay Marriage Repealed in Maine.[/QUOTE]
And if water was the first compound, was exactly does that prove? Nothing, that's what. And going by your understanding of hydrogen binding with shit, why is water so hard to find on other planets, for one. Secondarily, nitrogen would have formed before oxygen, and thus hydrogen would bind with it first?
[QUOTE=Kybalt;18197068]And if water was the first compound, was exactly does that prove? Nothing, that's what. And going by your understanding of hydrogen binding with shit, why is water so hard to find on other planets, for one. Secondarily, nitrogen would have formed before oxygen, and thus hydrogen would bind with it first?[/QUOTE]
Water is present in a lot of unexpected places really, but it's extremely minuscule.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;18197046]I've listened to you for a while. I've never told you my beliefs are right and yours are wrong. i told you to stop harrasing people because a majority of them are fucking idiots.
we're [B]not[/B] all like that.[/QUOTE]
I'm going to state a few simple facts.
Ignorance is bad.
Faith is belief without evidence.
To believe in a god you need faith.
Belief without evidence is ignorant. (It's ignorant of the consequences of believing things without evidence, jump off cliff and you can fly)
Therefore, Faith is bad.
Therefore, believing in a god means you are ignorant.
[QUOTE=Dr. Disciple;18196996]I was stating the properties of oxygen in order to display the obvious relation between hydrogen being the first element and water most likely being one of the first compounds made because of each others properties.Not to mention hydrogen bonding the fuck out of everything with a valence of electron of out dunno 1. I suppose that wasn't that obvious of a fact.Honestly you decide to test my knowledge of chemistry in order to somehow claim me unworthy of an opinion, I believe the topic was Gay Marriage Repealed in Maine.[/QUOTE]
Hur dur lets just mix hydrogen and oxygen together and we got water! It's not that simple.
[QUOTE=Billiam;18197047]I believe you're the wound who started the argument AND made your own initial point for starting the argument moot, and no water was not one of the first compounds created at least as we know it, if I'm not mistaken.
At least on Earth.[/QUOTE]
*Cough*[url]http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/1998/04.23/DiscoverofWater.html[/url]
[QUOTE=PelPix123;18197112]...So wait, how did we get from Gay Marriage to conservatists betting boxes to...Hydrogen?
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And now it appears to be some intolerant argument over religion.[/QUOTE]
Gay Marriage is only controversial because of religion. To form an argument against Gay Marriage, you need to accept that some religion is correct. To argue that Gay Marriage should be allowed you have to attack the source of the reasoning against it, in this case, religion.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;18197100]I'm going to state a few simple facts.
Ignorance is bad.
Faith is belief without evidence.
To believe in a god you need faith.
Belief without evidence is ignorant. (It's ignorant of the consequences of believing things without evidence, jump off cliff and you can fly)
Therefore, Faith is bad.
Therefore, believing in a god means you are ignorant.[/QUOTE]
The only reason i don't have evidence is because whenever i reference the bible/torah WHICH IS TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS
you tell me "OH NO LOL DATS NOT [B]REAL[/B] EVIDENCE, DATS FAKE EVIDENCE"
How do i know that you're "big bang" evidence isn't just a bunch of bullshit that you don't understand, and even if you do, how do you know it's not a lie?
How is that black people can get married in Georgia but two gay people can't get married in
Maine.
[QUOTE=Ragy;18197123]Hur dur lets just mix hydrogen and oxygen together and we got water! It's not that simple.[/QUOTE]
Burning hydrogen causes the formation of water. H2 + O2 --> 2H2O
[QUOTE=Dr. Disciple;18197140]*Cough*[url]http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/1998/04.23/DiscoverofWater.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Ah my mistake, but what does this prove?
[QUOTE=Kybalt;18197068]And if water was the first compound, was exactly does that prove? Nothing, that's what. And going by your understanding of hydrogen binding with shit, why is water so hard to find on other planets, for one. Secondarily, nitrogen would have formed before oxygen, and thus hydrogen would bind with it first?[/QUOTE]
Billiam challenged the idea that the bible states water was one of the first things created when in fact
hydrogen and oxygen, are among the most abundant elements in the universe.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;18197147]How do i know that you're "big bang" evidence isn't just a bunch of bullshit that you don't understand, and even if you do, how do you know it's not a lie?[/QUOTE]
Because a guy with a beard who walks around in a night robe and magically heals people is more evidence than science.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;18197147]The only reason i don't have evidence is because whenever i reference the bible/torah WHICH IS TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS
you tell me "OH NO LOL DATS NOT [B]REAL[/B] EVIDENCE, DATS FAKE EVIDENCE"
How do i know that you're "big bang" evidence isn't just a bunch of bullshit that you don't understand, and even if you do, [B]how do you know it's not a lie[/B]?[/QUOTE]
Background radiation.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;18197147]The only reason i don't have evidence is because whenever i reference the bible/torah WHICH IS TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS
you tell me "OH NO LOL DATS NOT [B]REAL[/B] EVIDENCE, DATS FAKE EVIDENCE"
How do i know that you're "big bang" evidence isn't just a bunch of bullshit that you don't understand, and even if you do, how do you know it's not a lie?[/QUOTE]
Because the Torah/Bible is a fucking story. Evidence of the Big-Bang is multiple formulas theorized along with visual evidence from radiation from the big-bang just recently reaching telescopes.
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[QUOTE=Kybalt;18197197]Background radiation.[/QUOTE]
Yeah this.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;18197169]Burning hydrogen causes the formation of water. H2 + O2 --> 2H2O[/QUOTE]
You cannot just hold a candle to hydrogen and oxygen and get water, we're talking about massive energy to form the amount of water we have on Earth.
[QUOTE=Dr. Disciple;18197177]Billiam challenged the idea that the bible states water was one of the first things created when in fact
hydrogen and oxygen, are among the most abundant elements in the universe.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abundance_of_the_chemical_elements[/url]
True. Currently anyway. At the time of the big bang, hydrogen was the first element to exist, but nitrogen came before oxygen, which pretty much fucks over your idea that the first thing to form was H2O. Moreover, even if it was, it doesn't prove anything.
[QUOTE=Dr. Disciple;18197177]Billiam challenged the idea that the bible states water was one of the first things created when in fact
hydrogen and oxygen, are among the most abundant elements in the universe.[/QUOTE]
Okay? The universe wasn't created in a week, women weren't conceived from a rib.
[QUOTE=Ragy;18197220]You cannot just hold a candle to hydrogen and oxygen and get water, we're talking about [B]massive energy to form the amount of water we have on Earth[/B].[/QUOTE]
How about just a massive amount of oxygen and hydrogen? Remember the Hindenburg? Yeah. It ran out of hydrogen to burn eventually, and the air isn't even over 50% Oxygen.
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[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;18197147]The only reason i don't have evidence is because whenever i reference the bible/torah WHICH IS TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS
[B]you tell me "OH NO LOL DATS NOT [B]REAL[/B] EVIDENCE, DATS FAKE EVIDENCE"[/B]
How do i know that you're "big bang" evidence isn't just a bunch of bullshit that you don't understand, and even if you do, how do you know it's not a lie?[/QUOTE]
That's because it isn't scientific evidence, there is absolutely nothing testable/repeatable about it.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;18197236]How about just a massive amount of oxygen and hydrogen? Remember the Hindenburg? Yeah. It ran out of hydrogen to burn eventually, and the air isn't even over 50% Oxygen.[/QUOTE]
Yup, that one huge explosion and massive amounts of hydrogen maybe created a gallon of water. Compare that to the Earths water supply.
Stop arguing about the 'big bang'.
This discussion is about gay marriage.
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