[QUOTE=Neolk;18198369]Lets slow down there chief.
Aren't you black? I find it strange you can't find some sympathy or odd similarity between the struggles you face everyday and life, and the struggles these people face. Why should they be denied any less of the rights you can partake in everyday?[/QUOTE]
He was being sarcastic. :v:
Also, you can't really compare blacks to homosexuals.
[QUOTE=Neolk;18198369]Lets slow down there chief.
Aren't you black? I find it strange you can't find some sympathy or odd similarity between the struggles you face everyday and life, and the struggles these people face. Why should they be denied any less of the rights you can partake in everyday?[/QUOTE]
No. There is too great a difference.
For eons we have been enslaved by everyone from Carthage to the united states. In fact recently, I don't know if you knew about this or not, over 600,000 Americans died to settle this issue in your country. The freedom of men of all color and the sovereignty of the Republic was legally secured in a horrible blood bath which ended this evil practice. What has the American homosexual faced? Bullies? Old coots?
You wish for the right to marry, we had to fight for the right to be human beings. Does your arrogance know no bounds?
And yet you sit here acting like we are allies in some struggle to defeat "white rich men", get off your high horse. You too are no more a bigot then they.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;18197729]They voted for not repealing it, and it was repealed, but only because of the religious views of the people who voted to repeal it.
A human right is being denied because of the religious beliefs of the majority.[/QUOTE]That is what a democracy is about.
Majority rules.
[QUOTE=PelPix123;18198637]I've been an advocate for full racial equality for all my life, but I think it suggests that you're kind of full of yourself to imply that you have more rights because your forefathers participated in a war that you weren't even alive for by a long-shot.
Sure, your ancestors had to go through a barrel of shit and then a million times that. They weren't even considered human, and that's utterly disgusting of the majority back then. They deserved and had every right to win over those tyrannical bastards, but [b]you yourself[/b] have never been through anything more than basically bullies and old folk because that was before your time.[/QUOTE]
But I would hardly call the difficulties that homosexuals are facing a fight. More like a struggle. Black had it way worse. Also I'm pretty sure that homosexuality isn't genetic, you aren't really stuck with it like Negroes are stuck with their personal characteristics.
I hate religion
[QUOTE=Wakka V2;18198715] Also I'm pretty sure that homosexuality isn't genetic, you aren't really stuck with it like Negroes are stuck with their personal characteristics.[/QUOTE]
homosexuals are here as nature's population control.
they're pretty natural to me.
besides your a communist, under your utopia, doesn't gays have right to marry?
[QUOTE=Adius Shadow;18198729]I hate religion[/QUOTE]
Yes, you make Jesus so angry at you. Happy little rebel.
[QUOTE=Wakka V2;18198715]But I would hardly call the difficulties that homosexuals are facing a fight. More like a struggle. Black had it way worse. Also I'm pretty sure that homosexuality isn't genetic, you aren't really stuck with it like Negroes are stuck with their personal characteristics.[/QUOTE]Need I remind you that less than 200 years ago, people were hanged, drawn, and quartered for acts of homosexuality. In fact, less than 30 years ago in the United Kingdom, and [B]6[/B] years ago in the United States, homosexuality was still illegal and anyone who was found guilty of homosexuality could face jail time.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;18184761]Also, athiests need to realize that, just because they believe they're right doesn't make them the majority everywhere.
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That's irrelevant.[/QUOTE]
I believe it was some famous dude who said "Love thy neighbor." Oh, and some other famous dude said "Judge not, lest thee be judged yourself."
Don't Christians realize that they kick their own ass when they do shit like this?
[QUOTE=TailsPrower;18198793]Need I remind you that less than 200 years ago, people were hanged, drawn, and quartered for acts of homosexuality. In fact, less than 30 years ago in the United Kingdom, and [B]6[/B] years ago in the United States, homosexuality was still illegal and anyone who was found guilty of homosexuality could face jail time.[/QUOTE]
There were plenty of ancient cultures that embraced homosexuality. And it was illegal in the US because the act of homosexuality is adultry (having a person you're close to is different than being in a sexual relationship). Also, from an evolutionary standpoint, homosexuality makes no sense. Homosexuality goes against natural selection, therefore it must be some modern entity that's influencing homosexuality.
For the record, I'm not against homosexuals obtaining the same rights as married couples.
[QUOTE=cephalopoid;18198836]I believe it was some famous dude who said "Love thy neighbor." Oh, and some other famous dude said "Judge not, lest thee be judged yourself."
Don't Christians realize that they kick their own ass when they do shit like this?[/QUOTE]
Who said they were truly Christian?
[QUOTE=Idi Amin;18198905]Who said they were truly Christian?[/QUOTE]
Surely they label themselves as much . . . but there are very few true Christians in America. Very few.
Wait, so who can marry is decided by the government? And seeing as the discrimination against gays was at first a religious thing, isn't this in a way violating the separation of church and state? Still, that is fucking sad. Look at those ignorant, arrogant sheep. Just look at how fucking happy they are. Those horrible horrible fucking people.
[QUOTE=Wakka V2;18198900]There were plenty of ancient cultures that embraced homosexuality. And it was illegal in the US because the act of homosexuality is adultry (having a person you're close to is different than being in a sexual relationship). Also, from an evolutionary standpoint, homosexuality makes no sense. Homosexuality goes against natural selection, therefore it must be some modern entity that's influencing homosexuality.
For the record, I'm not against homosexuals obtaining the same rights as married couples.[/QUOTE]
did you ignore what i said.
homosexuals cannot reproduce, that's the point.
look at Africa, it's so fucking overpopulated and resources are being repeatedly raped.
Homosexuals are nature's population control.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;18198932]did you ignore what i said.
homosexuals cannot reproduce, that's the point.
look at Africa, it's so fucking overpopulated and resources are being repeatedly raped.
Homosexuals are nature's population control.[/QUOTE]
That's such a terrible statement. I bet you if you told that to a biology major, they'd laugh at you.
[QUOTE=Wakka V2;18198900]There were plenty of ancient cultures that embraced homosexuality. And it was illegal in the US because the act of homosexuality is adultry (having a person you're close to is different than being in a sexual relationship). Also, from an evolutionary standpoint, homosexuality makes no sense. Homosexuality goes against natural selection, therefore it must be some modern entity that's influencing homosexuality.
For the record, I'm not against homosexuals obtaining the same rights as married couples.[/QUOTE]Not all negative traits are instantly gotten rid of by evolution, and there's a lot of shit that doesn't go either way that hangs around. Evolution is not a sentient process.
God damn fucking republicans.
burn the gays
[QUOTE=Idi Amin;18198489]No. There is too great a difference.
For eons we have been enslaved by everyone from Carthage to the united states. In fact recently, I don't know if you knew about this or not, over 600,000 Americans died to settle this issue in your country. The freedom of men of all color and the sovereignty of the Republic was legally secured in a horrible blood bath which ended this evil practice. What has the American homosexual faced? Bullies? Old coots?
You wish for the right to marry, we had to fight for the right to be human beings. Does your arrogance know no bounds?
And yet you sit here acting like we are allies in some struggle to defeat "white rich men", get off your high horse. You too are no more a bigot then they.[/QUOTE]
I like to think everyone can, or should be equal.
Homosexuals throughout history have faced persecution to. They have been hanged, mutilated, tortured, raped, ect.
It doesn't seem fair that the only way to get rights is to 'fight' for them. The world is filled with enough violence. Why can we not just allow these men and women to choose their spouse?
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;18184761]Also, athiests need to realize that, just because they believe they're right doesn't make them the majority everywhere.
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That's irrelevant.[/QUOTE]
And the religious IE you, need to realize separation of church and state exists for a reason.
no it's not
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;18184743]The people have decided and voted.
Now the losers get to bitch.[/QUOTE]
America is a republic. Not a democracy. The majority is secondary to the constitution.
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[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;18184816]Bawww majority of the people in that state don't like gay marriage.
As a conservative, I don't like the liberal policies in my state, but the majority of the people here still vote for them, so I don't bitch.[/QUOTE]
Actually you're an idiot
and a conservative
well, technically it's the same thing.
but w/e
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[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;18184989]The government isn't taking away anything. The people voted for it. If their legistature had made laws against gay marriage because of religious beliefs, then there would be a 'seperation of church and state' issue.[/QUOTE]
It's TOTALLY nothing else right
I mean, the fact that the pastor said it was god's work this got repealed doesn't raise a flag?
If not, you're completely retarded.
[editline]03:30PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;18185210]The Nazis harrassed voters for them to either not vote, or vote for them.[/QUOTE]
Look at Hitler
bullying these people
[img]http://isurvived.org/Pictures_iSurvived-3/Hitler-supporters_MACRO.GIF[/img]
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[QUOTE=ryandaniels;18186215]I find it hard to sympathize with homosexuals to be honest; they've already won, this is the last pathetic kicks from a suffocating bigotry.
The reason I dislike the whole homosexual equality campaign is that it's being used as a excuse for people to continue being being bigots in every single other facet of their lives. It's basically the "I'm not racist, I have a black friend" argument, except on a societal scale.
Everybody thinks their soOOoooOOOoo accepting because they don't wish death on homosexuals, when in reality they are just blindly following societal norms. These are the same people who would have owned slaves 200 years ago.
As long as it's "normal" it's ok. Actually, better than ok, it's "righteous".
Edit:
Don't get me wrong, I [B]do[/B] think homosexual couples deserve completely equal rights as straight couples, I'm criticizing what I see is a lot of people's motives.[/QUOTE]
uhhhh
no
wrong reality. You must have arrived hereby accident.
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[QUOTE=Paravin;18186477]you must agree that growing up with gay parents isn't going to make your social life better. [/QUOTE]
just because you're deluded doesn't mean we're deluded.
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[QUOTE=ryandaniels;18186783]My fault, I've begun to use... "frilly"(?) language recently, I apologize if I was not clear.
What I mean is that homosexuality has been largely accepted. Sure, gay marriage isn't widely legal yet, but it can only become more popular. Tmedia lays it on thick, and as society continues it's trend toward liberalism, and the old bigots die off, homhe ophobia is slated to be classified alongside racism, if you don't think it already is.
That's great, truly it is, but my problem is that people aren't becoming liberal for the right reasons, they're just doing to fit in, not because they realize the error of bigotry and discrimination. If people truly learned why bigotry was stupid, we would've learned our lesson hundreds, thousands of years ago.
Why haven't we? Why do we still have problems with this? Because time and time again, society scapegoats one tiny part whole problem, terms it "evil" and then everyone feels like saints for a few years.[/QUOTE]
and you're basing this on?...
[editline]03:36PM[/editline]
let me skip a step and answer for you: Nothing
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[QUOTE=lazyguy;18186913]HOW DARE THESE PEOPLE VOTE FOR SOMETHING I DON'T LIKE
I THOUGHT ONLY LIBERALS COULD USE DEMOCRACY
LIKE TWITTER
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE, I SHALL PROTEST AGAINST THIS!
(PS Republicans complaining about Obama are anti-democracy)[/QUOTE]
hahahahahaha
[QUOTE=Wakka V2;18198900]There were plenty of [b]ancient cultures[/b] that embraced homosexuality. And it was illegal in the US because the act of homosexuality is adultry (having a person you're close to is different than being in a sexual relationship). Also, from an evolutionary standpoint, homosexuality makes no sense. Homosexuality goes against natural selection, therefore it [b]must be some modern entity[/b] that's influencing homosexuality.
For the record, I'm not against homosexuals obtaining the same rights as married couples.[/QUOTE]You just contradicted yourself.
If ancient cultures embraced it, how can it be a modern thing?
no gays woot woot
[QUOTE=Doug52392;18201272]You just contradicted yourself.
If ancient cultures embraced it, how can it be a modern thing?[/QUOTE]
That's wakka, ignore him. He tries to make a point but is too stupid to actually complete it.
[QUOTE=Doug52392;18201272]You just contradicted yourself.
If ancient cultures embraced it, how can it be a modern thing?[/QUOTE]
Modern as in this side of a million years (or what have you). Or it's just plain lust.
[QUOTE=Matt PL;18200461]burn the gays[/QUOTE]
Kill the nudists.
[QUOTE=Wakka V2;18198900]There were plenty of ancient cultures that embraced homosexuality. And it was illegal in the US because the act of homosexuality is adultry (having a person you're close to is different than being in a sexual relationship). Also, from an evolutionary standpoint, homosexuality makes no sense. Homosexuality goes against natural selection, therefore it must be some modern entity that's influencing homosexuality.
For the record, I'm not against homosexuals obtaining the same rights as married couples.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_animals[/url]
Sucks for Mainers. :(
I don't see how this is "an act of God". That's kind of a dumb thing to say.
Anyways, I see a mass of gays leaving Maine in the future.
[QUOTE=Pascall;18201867]Sucks for Mainers. :(
I don't see how this is "an act of God". That's kind of a dumb thing to say.
Anyways, I see a mass of gays leaving Maine in the future.[/QUOTE]
i see a massive amount of gays leaving california after prop-
oh
wait
nvm it didn't happen
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[QUOTE=Wakka V2;18201516]Modern as in this side of a million years (or what have you). Or it's just plain lust.[/QUOTE]
You have lost all right to post, thank you
Cuz California is cool.
great logic
A+ read
will read again
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