[QUOTE=Elstumpo;18237366]I have the right not to have gay people married where I live.
[sp]Never mind the fact those said gay people would still be together having kinky sex regardless.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Huh, which constitutional amendment was that? I am way behind the times, it seems.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;18233067]lets vote to ban every religion except Christianity.
its democracy.[/QUOTE]
Yep, and it'll still be democracy when more people vote against it.
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[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;18233224]No, it says for a man to lie with another man as he would a woman is an abomination (or detestable).[/QUOTE]
Luckily men don't have vaginas.
[QUOTE=GunFox;18237098]Yeah I blame the school system. We need to better educate the country as a whole as to the actual purpose of the legal system.
Laws are very simple.
Does this law address a specific problem where someone else might infringe upon your basic rights?
Yes?
Then it has the potential to be a useful law. This would be simple shit. Everything from speed limits to murder. It keeps everyone safe without intruding into your life.
No?
Then what the fuck are you doing. Abortion does not infringe upon your rights. Gay marriage does not infringe upon your rights.[/QUOTE]
It's called Democracy, the people choose the societal values, and in this case, the better side won. So you're saying everything should be politcially correct and "socially forward" in a society though the people reject it?
Also, have you ever thought they were just trying to do good? Not all of them may be religious fanatics, in fact, it seems none of them are. They want to give their society good values, so they tried to and did.
Well I'm in New Hampshire, we get gay marriage in 2010, I can only laugh at the idiots to the north.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;18235836]In Isiah, it states "the word of god is perfect" and the bible states, DIRECTLY, that the bible is the word of god
so it was meant to be taken literally.
And the bible is pretty clear that non-Christians are fucked.
so this bullshit is justifiable.
But the reason it's justifiable needs to die
I.E religion
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the fuck are you thanking?[/QUOTE]
Perfect=/=literal
The bible is completely open to interpretation.
[QUOTE=Marlwolf78;18238872]Perfect=/=literal
The bible is completely open to interpretation.[/QUOTE]
Which is why it should never be used as a basis for
- The creation of the universe
- Morals
- Laws
- How to live your life.
etc.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;18238673]It's called Democracy, the people choose the societal values, and in this case, the better side won. So you're saying everything should be politcially correct and "socially forward" in a society though the people reject it?
Also, have you ever thought they were just trying to do good? Not all of them may be religious fanatics, in fact, it seems none of them are. They want to give their society good values, so they tried to and did.[/QUOTE]
This has absolutely nothing to do with values. Someones sexual preference has nothing to do with values.
When you say values you really mean "things I think are okay." And it also means that you're just imposing your opinions onto other people. When gays marry, it does not impose upon you or effect you in any way.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;18238673]It's called Democracy, the people choose the societal values, and in this case, the better side won. So you're saying everything should be politcially correct and "socially forward" in a society though the people reject it?
Also, have you ever thought they were just trying to do good? Not all of them may be religious fanatics, in fact, it seems none of them are. They want to give their society good values, so they tried to and did.[/QUOTE]
Bullshit. Societal values do NOT infringe upon individual rights. That is the sign of an absolute failed state.
And they might want to give society what they think are good values, when in fact they are just bigoted morons who are absolute scum.
[QUOTE=Valdor;18235976]Didn't god rape the "Virgin" Mary in the stories and make her pregnant?
I don't think she prayed and gave consent to be impregnated by god.
[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure just Catholics believe that.
The Church where I used to go believes she got pregnant "normally".
As a Christian, I think that gay marriage should be legalized. It goes against civil rights and American freedom, and I keep freedom as the most important thing I have. Taking away the right of freedom is tyranny, pure and simple.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;18238919]Which is why it should never be used as a basis for
- The creation of the universe
- Morals
- Laws
- How to live your life.
etc.[/QUOTE]
True, if the rules were open to be twisted to suite whatever need, why have the rules to begin with?
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;18238984]Bullshit. Societal values do NOT infringe upon individual rights. That is the sign of an absolute failed state.
And they might want to give society what they think are good values, when in fact they are just bigoted morons who are absolute scum.[/QUOTE]
So people with opinions different than yours are bigoted morons who are absolute scum?
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;18239923]So people with opinions different than yours are bigoted morons who are absolute scum?[/QUOTE]
People with opinions that are inherently discriminatory against people who do not affect you other than you thinking them icky, are absolute scum and bigoted morons. What these people are doing are horrible, and other people are suffering because of this unnecessary law.
About time.
:smug:
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;18239923]So people with opinions different than yours are bigoted morons who are absolute scum?[/QUOTE]
No, people with bigoted moronic opinions are bigoted morons surprisingly.
[QUOTE=tarkata14;18236489]I wasn't wrong, and what I was stating wasn't wrong. It's apparently wrong to take the bible non-literally, but people still do it.[/QUOTE]
so Isaiah and Timothy are conspiracies against you?
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[QUOTE=Elstumpo;18237366]I have the right not to have gay people married where I live.
[sp]Never mind the fact those said gay people would still be together having kinky sex regardless.[/sp][/QUOTE]
you don't have to right to take away other rights.
[editline]07:30PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;18238673]It's called Democracy, the people choose the societal values, and in this case, the better side won. So you're saying everything should be politcially correct and "socially forward" in a society though the people reject it?
Also, have you ever thought they were just trying to do good? Not all of them may be religious fanatics, in fact, it seems none of them are. They want to give their society good values, so they tried to and did.[/QUOTE]
well good thing you're not a democracy then
[QUOTE=Billiam;18233616]You have the reading comprehension of a rock covered in googly-eyes.[/QUOTE]
i forgot why i loved you billiam
[editline]01:33PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;18238673]It's called Democracy, the people choose the societal values, and in this case, the better side won. So you're saying everything should be politcially correct and "socially forward" in a society though the people reject it?
Also, have you ever thought they were just trying to do good? Not all of them may be religious fanatics, in fact, it seems none of them are. They want to give their society good values, so they tried to and did.[/QUOTE]
No, the plurality (whatever side has more votes) does [I]not[/I] choose "the societal values". The societal values are a collective of the entire populace. Just because 51% believes one thing doesn't mean the 49% have no effect, and to say so is asinine.
gay people will burn in hell forever.
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[QUOTE=Valdor;18235976]Didn't god rape the "Virgin" Mary in the stories and make her pregnant?
I don't think she prayed and gave consent to be impregnated by god.[/QUOTE]
God impregnated her with his phase shifting penis.
[QUOTE=Marlwolf78;18238872]Perfect=/=literal
The bible is completely open to interpretation.[/QUOTE]
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[editline]07:56PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;18241615]About time.
:smug:[/QUOTE]
next up
dumb conservatives
oops, you're going to go
teehee
I think everyone who read my post couldn't tell sarcasm...
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;18233224]No, it says for a man to lie with another man as he would a woman is an abomination (or detestable).[/QUOTE]
Interesting fact, so is "eating shellfish" and "working on the sabbath".
That "abomination" argument is BS, because I [i]KNOW[/i] good Christians [i]LOVE[/i] their crab and shrimp after a hard days work on Sunday.
I love using the bible to shoot down other biblical stuff. :keke:
[QUOTE=b00ce;18247897]Interesting fact, so is "eating shellfish" and "working on the sabbath".
That "abomination" argument is BS, because I [i]KNOW[/i] good Christians [i]LOVE[/i] their crab and shrimp after a hard days work on Sunday.
I love using the bible to shoot down other biblical stuff. :keke:[/QUOTE]
They aren't good Christians then
[QUOTE=b00ce;18247897]Interesting fact, so is "eating shellfish" and "working on the sabbath".
That "abomination" argument is BS, because I [i]KNOW[/i] good Christians [i]LOVE[/i] their crab and shrimp after a hard days work on Sunday.
I love using the bible to shoot down other biblical stuff. :keke:[/QUOTE]
you realise all you are doing is highlighting just how utterly ridiculous the bible is.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;18242044]No, people with bigoted moronic opinions are bigoted morons surprisingly.[/QUOTE]
Your opinion is they're morons, their opinions are that they're right.
Who's to say which is ultimately right? It isn't right to call people bigoted morons just because they spoke their opinions.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;18238673]It's called Democracy, the people choose the societal values, and in this case, the better side won. So you're saying everything should be politcially correct and "socially forward" in a society though the people reject it?
Also, have you ever thought they were just trying to do good? Not all of them may be religious fanatics, in fact, it seems none of them are. They want to give their society good values, so they tried to and did.[/QUOTE]
You are precisely what is wrong.
You don't understand that societal values DO NOT EQUAL LAWS.
The point isn't to pass laws that are "socially forward" or to pass laws that give people "good values" the point is that the government doesn't have the right to do either. Much less actually enforce them.
The government is here to protect you from harm. From danger. And to maintain a generally functional economy. They are not here to be your baby sitter and teach you good morals.
[QUOTE=b00ce;18247897]Interesting fact, so is "eating shellfish" and "working on the sabbath".
That "abomination" argument is BS, because I [i]KNOW[/i] good Christians [i]LOVE[/i] their crab and shrimp after a hard days work on Sunday.
I love using the bible to shoot down other biblical stuff. :keke:[/QUOTE]
uh
thats a terrible argument
if they work on the sabbath then they arent diehard christians
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[QUOTE=GunFox;18249084]You are precisely what is wrong.
You don't understand that societal values DO NOT EQUAL LAWS.
The point isn't to pass laws that are "socially forward" or to pass laws that give people "good values" the point is that the government doesn't have the right to do either. Much less actually enforce them.
The government is here to protect you from harm. From danger. And to maintain a generally functional economy. They are not here to be your baby sitter and teach you good morals.[/QUOTE]
you should never let the general populace vote on societal issues
we need a new brown v.s the board of ed. but for gay people because i'm tired of it already
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;18248596]you realise all you are doing is highlighting just how utterly ridiculous the bible is.[/QUOTE]
Precisely my point.
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[QUOTE=PhantomNorth;18249383]uh
thats a terrible argument
if they work on the sabbath then they arent diehard christians
[/QUOTE]
So if they believe "homosexuality = abomination" stuff they ARE good christians?
[QUOTE=b00ce;18249584]Precisely my point.
[editline]04:54PM[/editline]
So if they believe "homosexuality-abomination" stuff they ARE good christians?[/QUOTE]
if they believe that then they follow the bible, which would make them good christians if they followed the rest of it
Men still don't have vaginas.
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