[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;18272734]Gay marriage is morally wrong, so it corrupts society morally. Due to peoples' rights, sadly it is legal, but it's a degrading, immoral practice that shouldn't be allowed if the majority doesn't want it.[/QUOTE]uhhh
What the fuck did I just read?
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;18273848]I don't agree with most aspects of Christianity, but it does try to morally improve society, so saying it's corrupting is absurd.
Gay marriage does nothing good, and adversely affects the moral of a society. Ask most people, even non-religious, and they'll probably tell you it's wrong.[/QUOTE]
Can you just... I dunno... fucking explain how or why it "adversely affects the moral of a society"
You never seem to do that...
I'm sorry but the "Vote No on 1" supporters are the most annoying type of people. There were tons of them at my college and they'd first try to hassle you into voting, and then they would try to sign you up for working time (in intervals of 2-3 hours).
I just looked through the US constitution and the right to marriage isn't in there.
[QUOTE=Pepin;18278509]I'm sorry but the "Vote No on 1" supporters are the most annoying type of people. There were tons of them at my college and they'd first try to hassle you into voting, and then they would try to sign you up for working time (in intervals of 2-3 hours).[/QUOTE]
I know, how dare people try to get you to care about civil rights.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;18273848]
Gay marriage does nothing good, and adversely affects the moral of a society. Ask most people, even non-religious, and they'll probably tell you it's wrong.[/QUOTE]
What does "moral of a society" have to do with anything?
And further more, what does 2 men getting married have to do with adversely affecting that?
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;18273848]I don't agree with most aspects of Christianity, but it does try to morally improve society, so saying it's corrupting is absurd.
Gay marriage does nothing good, and adversely affects the moral of a society. Ask most people, even non-religious, and they'll probably tell you it's wrong.[/QUOTE]
I'm Athiest and I have no problem with gays marrying. They're two people who want to marry, what's the big problem?
It's not like two gays getting hitched is suddenly going to turn one of us gay. It's not going to bankrupt either of us, either. It won't affect us one damn bit.
Isn't the American Dream "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"? Why are we trying to deny them the American Dream, eh?
The answer is that the people who are against it are either homophobic, bigoted, misinformed or believe that they think they know what's best for everyone else in the world.
People need to mind their own damn business and let others do the same. If they did, this wouldn't be an issue at all.
O, and before you make assumptions: I'm as straight as a laser beam.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;18273848]
Gay marriage does nothing good, and adversely affects the moral of a society. Ask most people, even non-religious, and they'll probably tell you it's wrong.[/QUOTE]
"Gay marriage is immoral because it's immoral"
It's amazing that you haven't died by forgetting how to eat or breathe.
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i mean seriously
It's about as immoral as simply being friends with a person of the same sex.
The level of intelligence typical of so many religious Americans is quite close to the level of intelligence of the common ape. Maybe they should introduce an IQ test to qualify people for voting. Because an America controlled by idiots is like a retarded six-year-old with a rocket launcher.
[QUOTE=archangel125;18284034]Maybe they should introduce an IQ test to qualify people for voting. [/QUOTE]
No because even people with a high IQ can have stupid opinions.
[QUOTE=pie_is_good;18284115]No because even people with a high IQ can have stupid opinions.[/QUOTE]
Aye, but people with a higher IQ almost invariably will admit it when shown they're wrong through a logical argument.
[QUOTE=archangel125;18284168]Aye, but people with a higher IQ almost invariably will admit it when shown they're wrong through a logical argument.[/QUOTE]
No, high IQ doesn't inherently make you a reasonable person
[QUOTE=Splurgy;18284204]No, high IQ doesn't inherently make you a reasonable person[/QUOTE]
Okay, you're right there. I know this is a fallacious argument, but I've never seen nor heard tell of a person with a high IQ who was as deluded as those christian voters.
[QUOTE=archangel125;18284243]Okay, you're right there. I know this is a fallacious argument, but I've never seen nor heard tell of a person with a high IQ who was as deluded as those christian voters.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9656/rand3.gif[/img]
It's more common than you'd think.
[QUOTE=Urkel01;18284324][img]http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9656/rand3.gif[/img]
It's more common than you'd think.[/QUOTE]
Who might that be?
[QUOTE=archangel125;18284339]Who might that be?[/QUOTE]
some crinkly bitch who thought it was a super cool idea to make being a self centered dick a good idea
[QUOTE=Warhol;18284369]some crinkly bitch who thought it was a super cool idea to make being a self centered dick a good idea[/QUOTE]
Name plz.
[QUOTE=archangel125;18284243]Okay, you're right there. I know this is a fallacious argument, but I've never seen nor heard tell of a person with a high IQ who was as deluded as those christian voters.[/QUOTE]
IQ is a pretty useless measure of intelligence man. Intelligence is way, way more complex than just a number or a ranking. Trying to use a number to "rate" intelligence is dumb as heck.
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[QUOTE=archangel125;18284388]Name plz.[/QUOTE]
right click
properties
location
not complicated
[QUOTE=archangel125;18284339]Who might that be?[/QUOTE]
Ayn Rand. High IQ, intelligent, completely insane and deluded beyond belief (also a bad writer)
but I suppose I could find a better example since she isn't of the religious right, which is the focus of this thread. :effort:
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[QUOTE=Urkel01;18284431]Ayn Rand. High IQ, intelligent, completely insane and deluded beyond belief (also a bad writer)
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[i]"Eventually, the question you ask stops being "Who is John Galt?" and becomes "When will John Galt shut up?"[/i]
Let's talk about high levels of intelligence coupled with religious fanaticism. That's what I meant.
Religious fanaticism is the worst kind. Political ideologies can be undermined through education - the proof of their functionality can be clearly seen simply by close examination of society. Where some imaginary being is involved, however, the existence of said being and the validity of its will cannot be proven or disproven - If you worshipped a little green man who you saw in your head, and justified atrocities you committed with "the little green man told me to do it," name one way you could be convinced that you were wrong.
[QUOTE=archangel125;18284708]Let's talk about high levels of intelligence coupled with religious fanaticism. That's what I meant.
Religious fanaticism is the worst kind. Political ideologies can be undermined through education - the proof of their functionality can be clearly seen simply by close examination of society. Where some imaginary being is involved, however, the existence of said being and the validity of its will cannot be proven or disproven - If you worshipped a little green man who you saw in your head, and justified atrocities you committed with "the little green man told me to do it," name one way you could be convinced that you were wrong.[/QUOTE]
stop trying to abstract religion as some silly, straightforward concept. It's a lot more complex than that
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;18284824]stop trying to abstract religion as some silly, straightforward concept. It's a lot more complex than that[/QUOTE]
Aye, but it really is as simple as my analogy for the blind, devout, zealous fanatics.
I can almost guarantee that within twenty years, this kind of fanaticism will be classified as a serious mental illness.
[QUOTE=archangel125;18284853]Aye, but it really is as simple as my analogy for the blind, devout, zealous fanatics.[/QUOTE]
no, it's not
to say this is purely due to religion is oversimplifying the situation. If it were due strictly to religion, then the anti-same sex marriage protesters would also be protesting Maine's importance as a source of lobster, seeing as how the bible lists eating shellfish as an abomination as well.
It's not because these people are religious, it's because their religion is being manipulated and used to rally them into a force that will vote for the Republican Party's financial interests
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;18284934]no, it's not
to say this is purely due to religion is oversimplifying the situation. If it were due strictly to religion, then the anti-same sex marriage protesters would also be protesting Maine's importance as a source of lobster, seeing as how the bible lists eating shellfish as an abomination as well.
It's not because these people are religious, it's because their religion is being manipulated and used to rally them into a force that will vote for the Republican Party's financial interests[/QUOTE]
That's just it. The people are just too piggishly stupid to even attempt to understand homosexuals. Yet, they do not want to appear bigoted. And so they use religion as an excuse and end up deluding themselves into actually believing that it is their moral duty to oppress homosexuals. If America truly was that religious, they'd still be burning 'heathens', stoning adulterers, keeping women as slaves with no rights whatsoever, and worse. The problem is not with the religion, but with the people themselves. There is something very, very wrong with the genetic make-up of some of these people. They wouldn't last a week in any 'third-world' country.
Islamic terrorists? The true enemy of Freedom is the far-right religious demographic within your own borders. And what's more, there's plenty of evidence to back that up.
We in the west bitch and whine about how evil Middle-Eastern Muslim clerics are for brainwashing their followers. Look at what American news media has done to your own people.
there is no genetic propensity towards ignorance, broheim
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;18285126]there is no genetic propensity towards ignorance, broheim[/QUOTE]
There must be a genetic propensity toward WILFUL ignorance and a tendency to deliberately AVOID learning.
[QUOTE=archangel125;18285158]There must be a genetic propensity toward WILFUL ignorance and a tendency to deliberately AVOID learning.[/QUOTE]
nope, it's just psychological conditioning and the oppressive weight of our modern consumerist society :smile:
[QUOTE=archangel125;18285158]There must be a genetic propensity toward WILFUL ignorance and a tendency to deliberately AVOID learning.[/QUOTE]
nope. it's nurture, not nature, in regards to this
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what he said
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