• Valve on Steam Monopoly concerns: lolwut
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[QUOTE=sleepyperson;18690381]Valve already said if they ever go under there going to remove the DRM from the steam games and you can burn or backup and such.[/QUOTE] I have a feeling the 3rd party devs on steam wouldn't be so nice about it, and a company about to go under probably isn't willing to settle that sort of thing.
The way I see it, if there were, like, 10 different popular digital distribution services, you'd have to log into 10 accounts and have 10 programs running to have access to all your games.
[QUOTE=Mr.2007;18690711]I can't afford a strong gaming computer so i'm stuck with shit for now :sigh: I have been telling my family that I need various pc parts. I ask for a new video card, I get a monitor. I ask for 6gb of ram and I get a 600gb hard drive. I thank my family for the effort, but they just don't understand. Better luck this Christmas maybe...:eng99:[/QUOTE] Currency? It's a wonderful bank note accepted at virtually every store and most people gladly take it as payment.
[QUOTE=matey9;18690723]Currency? It's a wonderful bank note accepted at virtually every store and most people gladly take it as payment.[/QUOTE] Well yeah, but I don't have a job and my money goes to higher priority's.
[QUOTE=Mr.2007;18690745]Well yeah, but I don't have a job and my money goes to higher priority's.[/QUOTE] Ask for money as present, if you haven't already of course. [editline]06:43PM[/editline] [QUOTE=postmanX3;18690718]The way I see it, if there were, like, 10 different popular digital distribution services, you'd have to log into 10 accounts and have 10 programs running to have access to all your games.[/QUOTE] That as well, I'm willing to bet if it weren't for the nice community features included with steam we'd all hate having to open it everytime we want to start up the game.
[QUOTE=matey9;18690715]I have a feeling the 3rd party devs on steam wouldn't be so nice about it, and a company about to go under probably isn't willing to settle that sort of thing.[/QUOTE] The third parties probably either read and agreed to a contract stating such, or are as intelligent as Activision's ceo and don't read fine print.
steam is great the 80-120 kb/s I download at (not my internet, don't blame that) isn't so great.
I [highlight]hate[/highlight] downloading full size games which is why I order hardcopies whenever possible Also, who doesn't love collecting jewel cases?
[QUOTE=postmanX3;18690718]The way I see it, if there were, like, 10 different popular digital distribution services, you'd have to log into 10 accounts and have 10 programs running to have access to all your games.[/QUOTE] They don't have to have their own program. Gog.com doesn't require any client to play the games you buy there. I'm sure there are more, but I only buy games from Steam and Gog. But yes, you do need an account with Gog, but you don't need to login to play a game. You only need to login to buy something or download something.
[QUOTE=Apt 2B;18691132]I [highlight]hate[/highlight] downloading full size games which is why I order hardcopies whenever possible Also, who doesn't love collecting jewel cases?[/QUOTE] I'm totally fine with it, I get decent download speeds from steam(1MB/s sometimes 2MB/s), and I don't need to worry about losing keys or anything, I've gone through around 4 copies of BF2 because I always seem to lose the manual, but now I have it on steam.
Now do this to the Canadian internet market.
I like steam for convenience, but I always feel sorta crappy buying stuff on it, because it feels like I don't actually own a copy of the game. It just feels like the data is temporarily on loan from Valve. I realize it's sort of like that with all games (when you buy a game, you only own the DVD, manual, and case) but if I don't get that stuff with it, it doesn't feel like I own anything, almost as if steam could stop me from playing the games whenever it wanted. It's like it's your pimp or something. I would feel fine if I could get the full data, and burn the game onto a dvd with the installation files and everything, so I could play it remotely.
How the hell do you get 1MB+ DL speeds? What server are you downloading from?
2.5mb/s here
I would hate buying from steam for the above reason, but lately I've noticed a LOT of games have been requiring shit like online registrations and such, and then I realize the possibility of steam failing and losing all my data is the exact same as any of those games failing.
Randy Pitchford is an annoying troll, to be honest. I'd throw a shoe at him if I didn't love Borderlands so much. I still can't believe he has the balls to talk about Steam when his game is bringing cash off of it.
[QUOTE=Smashman;18679167]Let's ACTUALLY do this! Let's make a srs Steam Monopoly game board. :buddy:[/QUOTE] I am making one in photoshop right now.
Steam should be ported to consoles as well! It's the only online distributor I trust.
GODDAMN WINDOWS GAVE ME A BLUESCREEN AND I DIDN't SAVE THE BOARD AAAAAAGNnh
They need to realize, this is the 21st century. We've moved from retail to download. The same as moving from.. ugh... dial-up, to broadband. Why spend gas, driving up to the mall, to buy a boxed game you gotta make room for somewhere in your house, when you can download the game right to your hard drive. No box to worry about storing. The only thing is hard drive space. But with technolegy the way it is, terabyte hard drives are getting more popular.
I wish Bungie hadn't made Halo...
[QUOTE=PhoenixRSA;18679128]Two things what I hate about steam is that it totally screws over people with limited bandwidth with all the updates before you can play the damn game. Second, say I'm at my friend's house and he has never tried Half Life 2 before. Instead of normally just bringing my game and installing it, I have to download steam, log in with my account, reinstall the game, download ALL the updates then FINALLY do I get to play it. And I wish offline mode would actually fucking work. Valve may be the best dev around but damn steam is not that good. Something that would be useful is some kind of LAN Only feature where a different account can play that game LAN but only as long as it is connected with the computer who sent the invite. It would probably be exploited though but meh. [editline]02:40PM[/editline] Is that the one with the insanely high amount of expensive DLC?[/QUOTE] How about you just have him come over to your house, plus YOUR games are not to be installed on your friend's computer.
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[QUOTE=PhoenixRSA;18679128]Two things what I hate about steam is that it totally screws over people with limited bandwidth with all the updates before you can play the damn game. Second, say I'm at my friend's house and he has never tried Half Life 2 before. Instead of normally just bringing my game and installing it, I have to download steam, log in with my account, reinstall the game, download ALL the updates then FINALLY do I get to play it. And I wish offline mode would actually fucking work. Valve may be the best dev around but damn steam is not that good. Something that would be useful is some kind of LAN Only feature where a different account can play that game LAN but only as long as it is connected with the computer who sent the invite. It would probably be exploited though but meh. [editline]02:40PM[/editline] Is that the one with the insanely high amount of expensive DLC?[/QUOTE] Only a fucking idiot would use an [b] online content distribution system [/b] when they have a limited bandwidth.
They do have a monopoly though... it's defined as having over 50% of the market or someshit like that, but it's not like they force you to use steam to play their single player games.... Unless they've changed that.
I don't know, When steam first came out I hated it, It was unreliable, slow, sluggish, and just in the way, Now though its good, and cuts deals time after time... Evil Genius for $2.50, really? Holy Balls And I get over a meg a second download speed from steam 99% of the time, so I have nothing to complain about, although switching servers sometimes helps download speeds when Steam is overloaded during a big patch for TF2 or something, and this is totally a different type of monopoly anyway They may have 50% of the market, but its because they earned it, they're the best at what they do and so the majority of people use them, They didn't go out and buy exclusive rights and make themselves the sole developer of certain games, like ... Oh I don't know, EA, which I think is unfair. its different when you're competing for the largest market, and when you buy the largest market
It's not a monopoly. If you don't like the prices, leave. Steam IS the PC market for DLC and games. Steam is to PCs as XBLive is to 360s and PSN is to PS3s. I don't understand what the big deal is.
[QUOTE=Apt 2B;18692095]How the hell do you get 1MB+ DL speeds? What server are you downloading from?[/QUOTE] Go into settings in Steam look around for a content server choose one near you, mine is based in NYC so I get great speeds since I live >100 Miles away from NYC [QUOTE=Mr.2007;18692217]2.5mb/s here[/QUOTE] 500 kb/s to 3 mb/s here :D
Does Gearbox honestly think [b]anything[/b] can be better than steam?
[QUOTE=Wii60;18676327]print it out andread it[/QUOTE] Because everyone has a printer and decent paper.
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