• Self-healing autonomous material comes to life
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[QUOTE=Dalndox;26558665]Well then, what about self-healing Kevlar, or something to that effect? Honestly, if people look at this the right way, there is limitless potential here.[/QUOTE] Wouldn't work for self healing kevlar, that would require some fucking crazy precise technology to create new polymer strands in the effected area and then reweave them through the vest. Why the fuck the disagree? You do know how kevlar vests operate right? Thin molecular threads of kevlar are weaved as a fabric to CATCH a bullet, when that happens the threads are torn, and kevlar doesn't just spontaneously reconnect. This means if you want a self repairing kevlar suit you would need to have a power pack, and a tank of chemical feedstock for the vest to create new kevlar fibres, but even then when it's created the fibres it's useless unless it can somehow weave the fibre through the whole vest multiple times to reach the effected area. Then repeat the process several hundred thousand times to make a competent enough job to stop another bullet. It's not going to work, at least not for a very long time.
[QUOTE=Dalndox;26558139]Don't knock the idea yet. Coating a tank in a tough material that heals over time could potentially save the military a lot of money in equipment replacements. When it comes to science, it's ok to dream. :buddy:[/QUOTE]Prevention is always better than fixing in tanks. It'd be lovely and all if the tank could repair itself; but that APFSDS round has already killed the crew and detonated the ammo rack, wat do? [QUOTE=Dalndox;26558206]That's just what we have NOW. Considering the incredible advancement of technology in recent years, I doubt it'll be long before the military takes a significant interest in this. Imagine a tank rolling away from an ambush with what amounts to a peeling paint job, only to have it back on the field a few hours later. Again, just because it's not that way now, doesn't mean it can't happen later.[/QUOTE]I don't think you understand how severe damage to a tank can be. Inches of solid metal and composite armour with a hole blasted right through. This article talks about a system that fixes minor cracks with a complex fibre-optic network. With the aforementioned tank example, the mechanism that does the repairing i.e. the fibre optic network would also have a giant gaping hole in it, rendering it unable to repair that area of damage. We are a long, long way away from self-healing military vehicles.
We need this for teeth replacement. I worry too much about how much coke I drink.
Apocalypse 2012, be there or die anyway!
Haha, finally. Replacing all my major organs with this and stem cells
[QUOTE=Wata;26557335]And begins the horrible cyborg uprising.[/QUOTE] you better go with the winner [editline]8th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Dalndox;26558206]That's just what we have NOW. Considering the incredible advancement of technology in recent years[/QUOTE] Oh man now that I think of it, if you take it from the scratch of the human era or mammals, you can see people have built quite something on this planet, just because we happened to be in the right place at the right time, it's pretty rare anyway, given how quiet it is out there planetary-wise? Anyway it seems to me that peoples creativity is limitless
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;26561876]Prevention is always better than fixing in tanks. It'd be lovely and all if the tank could repair itself; but that APFSDS round has already killed the crew and detonated the ammo rack, wat do? I don't think you understand how severe damage to a tank can be. Inches of solid metal and composite armour with a hole blasted right through. This article talks about a system that fixes minor cracks with a complex fibre-optic network. With the aforementioned tank example, the mechanism that does the repairing i.e. the fibre optic network would also have a giant gaping hole in it, rendering it unable to repair that area of damage. We are a long, long way away from self-healing military vehicles.[/QUOTE] I wasn't necessarily talking about the tank shrugging off a direct missile, but I'm sure there are applications there somewhere. Like fixing damaged treads. Or hell, outside the military you could have space shuttles/suits that automatically seal breaches. It could do a lot to increase space survivability.
Wasn't there a metal discovered a while ago that dulled diamond saws and repaired itself? The only problem of practical use was that it was expensive to make or something.
[QUOTE=Dalndox;26564606]I wasn't necessarily talking about the tank shrugging off a direct missile, but I'm sure there are applications there somewhere. Like fixing damaged treads. Or hell, outside the military you could have space shuttles/suits that automatically seal breaches. It could do a lot to increase space survivability.[/QUOTE]And as I said, it's nowhere near advanced enough for any of that. The method of repair is a network of fibre optic cables that essentially heat the area around a crack until it shuts itself. If the cables are damaged, they cannot repair. They cannot fix treads with that method, and space shuttle or suit breaches would also damage the cables.
[QUOTE=HazeFyer23;26557874]Put that technology in tanks, invincible war beasts.[/QUOTE] Both sides in an eternal stalemate. "WE PUNCHED A HOLE IN THE- oh wait he's healed."
[QUOTE=Wata;26557335]And begins the horrible cyborg uprising.[/QUOTE] It won't be horrible, it will be glorious. [editline]8th December 2010[/editline] If no one can be killed, no more wars, no more murders, no more horrific car crashes. Just people having fun testing the system [editline]8th December 2010[/editline] Then again it might be harder to stop thieves.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;26565224]And as I said, it's nowhere near advanced enough for any of that. The method of repair is a network of fibre optic cables that essentially heat the area around a crack until it shuts itself. If the cables are damaged, they cannot repair. They cannot fix treads with that method, and space shuttle or suit breaches would also damage the cables.[/QUOTE] I didn't say it would be available tomorrow, but look in to the future. I'm talking potential applications down the road. Regardless, this is huge news. Let your imagination run wild with it.
[QUOTE=Dalndox;26567736]I didn't say it would be available tomorrow, but look in to the future. I'm talking potential applications down the road. Regardless, this is huge news. Let your imagination run wild with it.[/QUOTE]This line of technology will not lead to the things you mentioned, full stop. The fiber-optic network needed is far too much of a liability. There will be other paths leading to self-repair, but this particular one is limited.
Bones are built, maintained and repaired by different kinds of [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bone_cell]bone cells[/url] however, I.E living organisms with their own life cycle and behavior. There's quite a big difference between the essentially "living" bone structure and a network of fiberoptics in polymers. I think the real future of self-regenerating structures will be based in bioengineering, in the form of actual organic materials.
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