[QUOTE=tr00per7;41777143]For all I know, that could be chocolate powder.
they taking any cameras? it will make a good movie.[/QUOTE]
Last I heard they'll try and fund the mission and subsequent missions by producing a reality tv series of the preparations of the people going, and later their life on mars.
[QUOTE=Ryz0;41784285]what about toilet paper, how are they gonna get it there and the more people that go up means the more toilet paper is needed[/QUOTE]
Maybe they'll just use the same sort of toilets on the ISS.
[QUOTE=kaze4159;41782233]I'm fairly sure Nasa has triple redundancy on everything they launch
That's why they're sending 4 people up there, if one's faulty they can fall back to a spare :v:[/QUOTE]
it's not NASA, it's mars one
[QUOTE=Ryz0;41784285]what about toilet paper, how are they gonna get it there and the more people that go up means the more toilet paper is needed[/QUOTE]
bidets for erryone
What if they fuck and gib birth
Nobodey though about that eh?
They will arrive on mars and pass through the alien races cloaking system and descend into a perfect utopia of harmony and return with technology millions years into the future.
[QUOTE=theblah12;41777514]Ah sorry, my bad.
In that case, I don't see how they're going to get the ESA/EU's permission. Or honestly, the permission of any first world country; one way trips to Mars doesn't seem like the sort of thing that would get approval, especially when it's a private space company with no track record or anything.[/QUOTE]
Don't understand this. On what grounds would they require permission? A law against launching yourself into space would protect and serve nobody, because nobody actually does it.
If you want to go to space, godspeed to you. In fact, people have already sent hamburgers into space and safely back to earth again without permission or a lot of money.
[QUOTE=Ryz0;41784285]what about toilet paper, how are they gonna get it there and the more people that go up means the more toilet paper is needed[/QUOTE]
We'll repurpose Curiosity and the other rovers to wipe our asses with their robot claws and lasers.
[QUOTE=Nemisis116;41784181]Mars is cool and all but there is LITERALLY nothing there but dusty old fucking red rocks; why would you even want to live there until you die.[/QUOTE]
Isn't the plan to make it not all dusty fucking rocks?
[QUOTE=Nemisis116;41784181]Mars is cool and all but there is LITERALLY nothing there but dusty old fucking red rocks; why would you even want to live there until you die.[/QUOTE]
How the hell can you say that? We don't know, which is why we're sending people.
Besides, even if it's just old dusty [B]brown[/B] rocks, you're still on another planet.
[QUOTE=Irespawnoften;41780169]
That would be expensive and pointless as fuck.[/QUOTE]
fuck you, im going to be the king OF MARS!
Honestly this would be cool. Imagine if you've already gotten what you want out of this life here on earth, or you just want to leave the planet and start a new chapter in your life.
What an amazing way to do it, being on of the first colonists for planet earth. It would be such a humbling experience. Not unlike going to live in a tibetan village or retiring to some place far from society for the rest of your life. It would be incredible and one of the most fulfilling closings you could do for the next (and last) chapter of your life.
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[QUOTE=ThePfeiffenator;41777877]I am not sure if you guys realize this but you would weigh about a third the weight you would on Earth on Mars. So after living there like 5 or more years your bones and muscles would be much weaker, probably so weak that you wouldn't be able to go back to Earth even if we had the tech without feeling like a really old man/woman.
Though it would be cool to weigh 80lbs. I couldn't imagine how horrible it would feel to go back to Earth after you got used to Mars gravity.[/QUOTE]
It probably wouldn't be that bad, considering people are in space [I]weightless[/I] for 5 months at a time. At least, you'd have some weight on you at all times on mars. An easy way to fix the issue would be to have clothing and suits that all wiegh a certain amount extra, so if you'd be 180 or so on earth but 60lbs on mars, you'd wear a weighted suit most of your day that would bring you back up to 180lbs.
You'd probably have to do walking therapy when you come back much like astronauts who stay in the ISS for a long while do, but that's not so bad, especially if you are actually in gravity (albiet at a lower G) and exercise. I could easily see someone who lives at 60lbs for a few years able to get acclimated to earth gravity just as quick, if not quicker than someone who stays in the ISS for 5 months. Especially if they "weigh" themselves down and exercise their muscles every day.
Now if a child was born on mars, and as such developed under 1/3rd gravity, that might pose a problem since likely their bones and muscle structure would grow different. Some people aren't even sure if its possible for birth and child development to happen in lower gravity enviornments.
[QUOTE=KorJax;41785882]Honestly this would be cool. Imagine if you've already gotten what you want out of this life here on earth, or you just want to leave the planet and start a new chapter in your life.
What an amazing way to do it, being on of the first colonists for planet earth. It would be such a humbling experience. Not unlike going to live in a tibetan village or retiring to some place far from society for the rest of your life. It would be incredible and one of the most fulfilling closings you could do for the next (and last) chapter of your life.[/QUOTE]
yeah, excepting that you don't have the choice to come home early, or, at all :/
I'm not saying i wouldn't want to go, just, i'd like to go in maybe thirty years, once i've lived a good portion of my life already and there would be safer transit, plus the possibility of a return trip
This would be similar to going to one of our many deserts here, except with Mars you're trapped for the rest of your life with absolutely no hope of getting back. I fail to see the allure, even if it is for history.
snip, took me a while to realize this ended up in the wrong thread
[QUOTE=DChapsfield;41785957]yeah, excepting that you don't have the choice to come home early, or, at all :/
I'm not saying i wouldn't want to go, just, i'd like to go in maybe thirty years, once i've lived a good portion of my life already and there would be safer transit, plus the possibility of a return trip[/QUOTE]
If you are the kind of person that doesn't need/want to come home to earth at all then who cares?
If you even second guess yourself then its clearly not the type of thing for you. Just like if someone came up to you and said "Hey, want to live out the rest of your days in our self-sustaining mountain village?", most people would say no because they still have something they want out of life on earth. Other people, not so much. Earth is nice and all, but the thought of doing something nobody else has never done before in addition to living completely free from the earth and everything that comes with it is incredibly liberating.
I wouldn't want to do it now, but if if I already got my fill of life when I was 40-50 or so, I'd love to spend the rest of my days on mars, basically living a completely different life.
Hopefully before that time, we'll have done enough research and can actually send people who will be able to sustain themselves somehow.
[QUOTE=DChapsfield;41778991]can you imagine if the water collection systems failed under something like a faulty generator?
and the 4 astronauts struggle to repair it but it's impossible without custom made parts? so, with video feed back to earth, they try and try, slowly running out of reserves of oxygen and water, with an emergency supply shuttle launched but a hopeless amount of time away, and the astronauts eventually die after running through their backup stores, and there's nothing the company could do about it from earth?
;_;[/QUOTE]
Nothing could possibly go wrong..wrong..wrong..wrong..
[QUOTE=KorJax;41786197]If you are the kind of person that doesn't need/want to come home to earth at all then who cares?
If you even second guess yourself then its clearly not the type of thing for you. Just like if someone came up to you and said "Hey, want to live out the rest of your days in our self-sustaining mountain village?", most people would say no because they still have something they want out of life on earth. Other people, not so much. Earth is nice and all, but the thought of doing something nobody else has never done before in addition to living completely free from the earth and everything that comes with it is incredibly liberating.
I wouldn't want to do it now, but if if I already got my fill of life when I was 40-50 or so, I'd love to spend the rest of my days on mars, basically living a completely different life.[/QUOTE]
though in the back of your head you'd know, in a mountain village, you are still physically capable of returning home. you're still on the ground, it's sort of expected that if some emergency happens you'd be able to call for and receive help, and/or leave
it's impossible for you to return to earth from mars on your own. the situations aren't just alike. it'd be closer if someone came up to you and said, "Hey, want to live out the rest of your days in our new startup self-sustaining underwater sea floor station permanently separated from terrestrial civilization, where you'll never be able to return to the surface no matter what happens?"
[QUOTE=yellowoboe;41785507]Isn't the plan to make it not all dusty fucking rocks?[/QUOTE]
That's a dream, not a plan, if you mean what I think you mean. Terraforming is and will remain science fiction, at least for the rest of the century. Even then I don't see it being possible without either jump-starting the Martian core or building an artificial solution to hold the atmosphere together.
[QUOTE=DaysBefore;41786969]That's a dream, not a plan, if you mean what I think you mean. Terraforming is and will remain science fiction, at least for the rest of the century. Even then I don't see it being possible without either jump-starting the Martian core or building an artificial solution to hold the atmosphere together.[/QUOTE]
yeah, if terraforming was the top step of a stairwell, then this mars one project is just holding a ruler to the first stair
[QUOTE=Cabbage;41785033]Don't understand this. On what grounds would they require permission? A law against launching yourself into space would protect and serve nobody, because nobody actually does it.
If you want to go to space, godspeed to you. In fact, people have already sent hamburgers into space and safely back to earth again without permission or a lot of money.[/QUOTE]
Well I know in the US you need to get launch permission from the FAA if you're launching anything past X altitude. Rockets included. You also have to make sure that any orbit you have around earth is in a clear path from debris and satellites. So you have to request clearance to launch and get your flight path approved by space agencies so you don't knock out a satellite on accident. This was one of the concerns when North Korea launched a satellite.
[QUOTE=Dierag;41784244]There will totally be a space orgy within the first few months[/QUOTE]
Space orgy with demons.
That's it, gonna go play Doom 3.
Don't forget to bring me a Cacodemon, mars colonizers.
[QUOTE=DChapsfield;41778991]and there's nothing the company could do about it from earth?[/QUOTE]we all know what the Company does when someone dies in space
they send a bunch of Marines and an android
[QUOTE=DChapsfield;41787016]yeah, if terraforming was the top step of a stairwell, then this mars one project is just holding a ruler to the first stair[/QUOTE]
I think the mars one project is just an atom of the ruler held to the first stair
If they sent people up there, there's a good chance they would be able to make return flights within 20 years or so, right? So if you're about 20, there would probably be a shot at coming back.
I mean, if we had a Mars base, there's no way people wouldn't be ecstatic about it and just throw money at space programs.
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[QUOTE=DChapsfield;41778991]can you imagine if the water collection systems failed under something like a faulty generator?
and the 4 astronauts struggle to repair it but it's impossible without custom made parts? so, with video feed back to earth, they try and try, slowly running out of reserves of oxygen and water, with an emergency supply shuttle launched but a hopeless amount of time away, and the astronauts eventually die after running through their backup stores, and there's nothing the company could do about it from earth?
;_;[/QUOTE]
You act like we've never been to space before. This is why they have redundant systems.
What I would love to do is to go by myself, climb to the top of Olympus Mons, and explore the "caves"
at the top of the volcano.
And also hearing absolutely nothing for once sounds totally tranquil and great to me.
[QUOTE=fenwick;41789415]If they sent people up there, there's a good chance they would be able to make return flights within 20 years or so, right? So if you're about 20, there would probably be a shot at coming back.
I mean, if we had a Mars base, there's no way people wouldn't be ecstatic about it and just throw money at space programs.
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You act like we've never been to space before. This is why they have redundant systems.[/QUOTE]
it's not like that's a foolproof guarantee of safety, though
see: every space mission that's ever gone wrong, ever
[QUOTE=dookster;41778060]If anyone of them were to have a baby, that baby would be a Martian. That blows my mind.[/QUOTE]
[video=youtube;jTL_sJycQAA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTL_sJycQAA[/video]
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