• Trump fires back at Cameron: 'I'm not stupid, OK? I can tell you that right now."
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Why has JohnFisher stopped going to these threads
[QUOTE=EcksDee;50332628]Why has JohnFisher stopped going to these threads[/QUOTE] Maybe he's too busy working for Donald Trump's campaign full time now.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;50332628]Why has JohnFisher stopped going to these threads[/QUOTE] He'll be permabanned if he decides to post in these types of threads.
[QUOTE=E3245;50332852]He'll be permabanned if he decides to post in these types of threads.[/QUOTE] Don't worry, just google some Trump bumper stickers and it'll be just like he never left.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;50331510]"i'm a unifier, build a wall" can certain americans really not see through this[/QUOTE] Unity and Divisiveness really depends on who's being unified. To people on the left, we think "How can American muslims and Latinos and Gays and Women and minorities be unified by Trump when his rhetoric is so against them?" To Trump supporters, "Americans" means white people like themselves, so Trump can unify white people against Latinos, gays, and Muslims.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;50331510]"i'm a unifier, build a wall" can certain americans really not see through this[/QUOTE] I'm sorry but that's not even a point. You've taken to parts of a sentence entirely out of context to then throw it into one bias sentence that doesn't represent that argument he was initially trying to get across. When he says he's a unifier, it's very obvious that he's referring you unifying the population of the US (whether he does or doesn't is another debate), and when he is referring to building a wall, that holds many political ramifications besides unity, and isn't in reference to the unity of the US populations but to the US and Mexico. What you've done is kind of like quoting David Cameron as saying "I respect the Muslim community" and stuck it next to "lets bomb ISIS" and gone HURR DAVID CAMERON HATES MUSLIMS!!11!. Your point makes no sense regardless of political stance, it's just that people are willing to see past it because it's Donald Trump so people are willing to drop all values they'd apply to any other person because they love a good ol' pantomime villain. [editline]16th May 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=proboardslol;50333200]To Trump supporters, "Americans" means white people like themselves, so Trump can unify white people against Latinos, gays, and Muslims.[/QUOTE] Did you learn that from Buzzfeed or Vox? "Top 10 ways to stereotype an entire voting base based upon my own personal politicial beliefs".
I'm a unifier, unlike THOSE LIBERALS
[QUOTE=Britain;50333231]I'm sorry but that's not even a point. You've taken to parts of a sentence entirely out of context to then throw it into one bias sentence that doesn't represent that argument he was initially trying to get across. When he says he's a unifier, it's very obvious that he's referring you unifying the population of the US (whether he does or doesn't is another debate), and when he is referring to building a wall, that holds many political ramifications besides unity, and isn't in reference to the unity of the US populations but to the US and Mexico. What you've done is kind of like quoting David Cameron as saying "I respect the Muslim community" and stuck it next to "lets bomb ISIS" and gone HURR DAVID CAMERON HATES MUSLIMS!!11!. Your point makes no sense regardless of political stance, it's just that people are willing to see past it because it's Donald Trump so people are willing to drop all values they'd apply to any other person because they love a good ol' pantomime villain.[/QUOTE] No, this is just wrong. How can you unify the people of the United States when you're suggesting banning muslims from the USA? Or from building a literal wall to keep people out of the country who have friends and family here? These people are Americans, too. David Cameron saying he "respects muslims" an then Bombs ISIS is a bad comparison [editline]16th May 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Britain;50333231] Did you learn that from Buzzfeed or Vox? "Top 10 ways to stereotype an entire voting base based upon my own personal politicial beliefs".[/QUOTE] [quote=http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/who-are-donald-trumps-supporters-really/471714/] They Live in Parts of the Country With Racial Resentment Find a map of the United States and draw a thick red mark just east of the Mississippi and Ohio Rivers. That's Trump Country. Although Trump appears to run equally well among moderates and conservatives in polls, Soltas found that, in New Hampshire, he dominated in more moderate counties. “For every 1 percentage point more liberal the precinct, Donald Trump's share of votes rises by 0.48 percentage points,” Soltas found. According to the New York Times’ Nate Cohn, who used data from Civis Analytics, Trump’s support is strongest from the Gulf Coast, through the Appalachian Mountains, to New York, among marginally attached Republicans (possibly former Democrats). It is a familiar map for some demographers, since it’s similar to a heat map of Google searches for racial slurs and jokes. “That Mr. Trump’s support is strong in similar areas does not prove that most or even many of his supporters are motivated by racial animus,” Cohn writes. “But it is consistent with the possibility that at least some are.”[/quote] [quote]They Want to Wage an Interior War Against Outsiders Matthew MacWilliams, a PhD candidate in political science at the University of Massachusetts Amherst, studies political authoritarianism. The classic definition of authoritarianism implies a tradeoff—more security for less liberty—but MacWilliams says it’s also about identifying threatening outsiders and granting individuals special powers to pursue aggressive policies to destroy them. The best predictor of Trump support isn't income, education, or age, he says. In South Carolina, it was “authoritarianism … [and] a personal fear of terrorism” that best predicted Trump’s support across the state. Trump’s foreign policy, like his policy for anything, is a muddle. He’s cautious toward the Israel-Palestine conflict, yet he told Fox News he would kill the families of ISIS members to stop their advance, something awfully close to a public pledge to commit war-crimes. But it’s his domestic security policies that have been astonishingly hawkish. He’s promised to shut down mosques, keep a database of Muslims, and round up the children of illegal immigrants. Indeed, when you put it together, Trump’s hysterical promises to protect his white in-group from non-white outsiders looks like race-baiting...[/quote]
he's absolutely atrocious at handling banter, really insecure
[QUOTE=proboardslol;50333254]No, this is just wrong. How can you unify the people of the United States when you're suggesting banning muslims from the USA? Or from building a literal wall to keep people out of the country who have friends and family here? These people are Americans, too. David Cameron saying he "respects muslims" an then Bombs ISIS is a bad comparison[/QUOTE] You just answered your own question. You can unify the USA as those people that you're "banning muslims from the USA" and those people on the other side of the wall aren't part of the USA. They're not the voter base being appealed to. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. He doesn't have to appeal to them, only those inside the US. [editline]16th May 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=proboardslol;50333254]No, this is just wrong. How can you unify the people of the United States when you're suggesting banning muslims from the USA? Or from building a literal wall to keep people out of the country who have friends and family here? These people are Americans, too. David Cameron saying he "respects muslims" an then Bombs ISIS is a bad comparison [/QUOTE] [editline]16th May 2016[/editline] “That Mr. Trump’s support is strong in similar areas does not prove that most or even many of his supporters are motivated by racial animus,” You literally proved my point. What are you even doing? It has to be a bad comparison because the point made is utter shit. It suits the scenario bloody perfectly.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;50332223][Media]https://youtu.be/wFCN39B6AhU[/media][/QUOTE] Can't help but feel like there is a bit of pot calling the kettle black when Jon Stewart has previously furiously called up Seth Macfarlane over a joke at his expense.
[QUOTE=Britain;50333296]You just answered your own question. You can unify the USA as those people that you're "banning muslims from the USA" and those people on the other side of the wall aren't part of the USA. They're not the voter base being appealed to. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. He doesn't have to appeal to them, only those inside the US.[/quote] Newsflash: There are, in fact, Muslims and Mexican-Americans that vote. America isn't 100% white. Far From it. In fact, the kind of racial demagoguery that Trump runs on may not work in coming year, as it's predicted that whites will no longer be the majority by 2040. [quote] “That Mr. Trump’s support is strong in similar areas does not prove that most or even many of his supporters are motivated by racial animus,” You literally proved my point. What are you even doing? It has to be a bad comparison because the point made is utter shit. It suits the scenario bloody perfectly.[/QUOTE] Well of course it doesn't [I]prove[/I] it, but it shows that theres a strong correlation between areas in the deep south and midwest which are associated with Racial bias and Donald Trump supporters. Of course, there's the possibility that it just so happens that all the Donald Trump supporters are [I]neighbors[/I] with all the bigots in America, but I find that unlikely
[QUOTE=Alxnotorious;50331791]One of these days he's just going to go full Phil Fish with these tweets.[/QUOTE] "Compare your goofy life to mine, then kill yourself, buddy."
[QUOTE=proboardslol;50333411]as it's predicted that whites will no longer be the majority by 2040.[/QUOTE] i agree with your point mostly but this specific statement has been said about every year
He really is like Biff from Back to the Future isn't he?
[QUOTE=Chrisordie;50334089]He really is like Biff from Back to the Future isn't he?[/QUOTE] Biff was based off of donald trump iirc (atleast the rich casino biff)
I want to believe that Trump is just being completely obtuse on purpose as part of some big ruse. But maybe he's just that stupid.
[QUOTE=Mr Kotov;50334234]I want to believe that Trump is just being completely obtuse on purpose as part of some big ruse. But maybe he's just that stupid.[/QUOTE] :xfiles:
I don't think Trump is stupid but as a matter of public record he is ignorant about basically everything from drugs to energy to defense to foreign affairs to healthcare to education to
[QUOTE=Alxnotorious;50331791]One of these days he's just going to go full Phil Fish with these tweets.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://67.media.tumblr.com/b632298f7c99f06f52e394579d9914a5/tumblr_nrfvnpJNrl1u1ri14o1_540.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;50331510]"i'm a unifier, build a wall" can certain americans really not see through this[/QUOTE] The rhetoric is that he's only kicking out illegal immigrants and that they can come legally if they want in. That's not true, of course. It completely ignores the fact that there's no path to citizenship for the poor. There's no guaranteed way in, not even for refugees or asylum. I recall a story of a man who was promised asylum if he cooperated with coalition forces. He did and gave us information on the Taliban and when we were finished. We then left him behind and denied his request for asylum.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;50331510]"i'm a unifier, build a wall" can certain americans really not see through this[/QUOTE] [I] "That's not what he's saying! You bernie libtard!"[/I]
[QUOTE=proboardslol;50333411]Newsflash: There are, in fact, Muslims and Mexican-Americans that vote. America isn't 100% white. Far From it. In fact, the kind of racial demagoguery that Trump runs on may not work in coming year, as it's predicted that whites will no longer be the majority by 2040. [/QUOTE] Is Trump building a wall to prevent legal immigration from Mexico, or moreover to kick all of the (legal) individuals from Mexico out? Is Trump going to round up all of the muslims already in the US and kick them out? Is it that hard to understand the US actually does have borders and the people who aren't US citizens and outside of them, or the people inside of them illegally, are not the concern of US. If Trump wanted to temporarily stop all immigration, would you be saying that he's alienating the entire non-native population (so, the vast majority of the population)? Or would you conclude there's a distinction between the non-citizens outside who are being banned from entry and the people legally inside who are not.
[QUOTE=Cone;50331705]what's that thing called when you personally insult everyone but then when even a complete wuss like Cameron insults you back you can only muster up "NUH UH I'M NOT DUMB" to defend yourself? [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullying"]hmmmm[/URL][/QUOTE] A pathetic sixty nine year old man child of course.
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;50331505]"I'm a unifier, unlike our current president" Yeah, there's hundreds of quotes from you that contradict that. How can you even compare to Obama when it comes to that? Trump being Trump. He's got the best words.[/QUOTE] What he's doing is saying that he's really trying to bring people together, and anyone that is inhibiting him is directly prohibiting unification. It's a lot of gymnastics, but it's smart gymnastics, and it works. I'm not suggesting that all Trump supporters are stupid or suggestible, because honestly I think Trump's campaign is built on a lot of smart marketing. And I think the effects of that are seen in how some Trump supporters treat others as being a buzzkill or causing problems where there are none.
Trump is his own parody at this point
Trash talk him all you want, he's still gonna be the next president. [editline]23rd May 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Gwoodman;50331510]"i'm a unifier, build a wall" can certain americans really not see through this[/QUOTE] is this post actually serious
[QUOTE=Nebukadnezzer;50377647]Trash talk him all you want, he's still gonna be the next president. [/QUOTE] People are trash talking current presidents all the time, I don't understand your point.
[QUOTE=Nebukadnezzer;50377647]Trash talk him all you want, he's still gonna be the next president.[/QUOTE] half of the major politicians in the world and many hundreds of millions look at trump as some kind of joke that reflects upon american society if you thought anti-american sentient was bad during the Bush years, just wait for Trump
[QUOTE=Nebukadnezzer;50377647]is this post actually serious[/QUOTE] yes now what was the point of yours
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