• Woman kills self while on Facebook
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[QUOTE=soccerskyman;35316452]You've never been suicidal before, have you? Don't even pretend you know what she was going through. I can pretty much guarantee that there were a million things you didn't even know about. When you're suicidal, you feel that you aren't worth the fight anymore. Telling you about herself was a cry for help. It's not easy just to go "I need help". You did what you could once you heard it, and I respect that. However, turning right around and calling her terrible for that cry for help is atrocious.[/QUOTE] How is it a cry for help if you don't accept any help? That doesn't make sense
[QUOTE=archangel125;35316463] THIS. This is what it's all about.[/QUOTE] Well that's one thing. This I can agree with. Calling her a terrible person for being mentally unstable is another. [QUOTE=bulletshield;35316473]Then why bother to make yourself the center of pity and attention?[/QUOTE] So you feel that you're worth someting/To know people Care about you/all sorts of reasons for different people. [editline]27th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Stormcharger;35316488]How is it a cry for help if you don't accept any help? That doesn't make sense[/QUOTE] Going to a shrink is a weird thing. Some feel like people will assume you're crazy/you are weird. (different people, different things). She wanted attention and someone to help her through.
Sounds like a pretty fucked up way to die
I miss the other times were when you had a problem, in lets say, a relationship and you would actually take up the time and fix it on your own Today its more like lolnope better kill myself
[QUOTE=darth-veger;35316555]I miss the other times were when you had a problem, in lets say, a relationship and you would actually take up the time and fix it on your own Today its more like lolnope better kill myself[/QUOTE] I read this in an old man's voice.
I had suicidal depression, I asked for help, it was provided and I accepted it. And it helped me. But I don't suffer from any attention seeking disorders so I guess that played a role too.
[QUOTE=soccerskyman;35316493] So you feel that you're worth someting/To know people Care about you/all sorts of reasons for different people. [/quote] I don't agree. Regardless of how low you feel, to subject your friends and people who love you to that sort of emotional trauma, REPEATEDLY, just for attention, demonstrates quite firmly that you don't really care at all about THEM. Only that they pity you.
[QUOTE=archangel125;35316632]I don't agree. Regardless of how low you feel, to subject your friends and people who love you to that sort of emotional trauma, REPEATEDLY, just for attention, demonstrates quite firmly that you don't really care at all about THEM. Only that they pity you.[/QUOTE] Making others suffer for your own gain is greed. They're simply greedy.
Natural selection in action.
[QUOTE] Lin's Facebook postings indicated she was unhappy because her boyfriend...had failed to return home to be with her on her birthday. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Her boyfriend found her body the next morning[/QUOTE]
its times like this that my opinion of FP being filled with angsty cynical teens is justified
she commited social suicide
[QUOTE=archangel125;35316234]Attention-whore. I've seen this sort of behavior before, been SUBJECTED to this sort of behavior before, and as much as I hate to say it, good goddamn riddance. People who do such things are the lowest form of scum because they deliberately hurt those close to them in a frenzy of melodramatic self-pity.[/QUOTE] you are an idiot.
[QUOTE=Isuzu;35317474]you are an idiot.[/QUOTE] Read the rest of his posts and at least try to understand his position before taking the first thing he said and insulting him over it. Its a shame, really.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;35317536]Read the rest of his posts and at least try to understand his position before taking the first thing he said and insulting him over it. Its a shame, really.[/QUOTE] Guess what I did.
[QUOTE=Isuzu;35317552]Guess what I did.[/QUOTE] Looks like you took the first thing he said and insulted him over it.
Guess again.
[QUOTE=Isuzu;35317707]Guess again.[/QUOTE] Okay, why. Back it up.
[QUOTE=archangel125;35317723]Okay, why. Back it up.[/QUOTE] Out of interest, with that girl you mentioned before who wasn't interested in seeing someone; did you take the matter to the authorities?
[QUOTE=ayaki;35317753]Out of interest, with that girl you mentioned before who wasn't interested in seeing someone; did you take the matter to the authorities?[/QUOTE] I did. They called at her house, spoke with her, then left - They had bigger problems to deal with, and a melodramatic teenage woman wasn't a big deal to them. Apparently they gave her a flyer for some helpline, which she predictably ignored. Mercifully, I was absent when she finally succeeded in killing herself, but I heard about it from a mutual friend later. Whom she had made watch, by the way.
[QUOTE=archangel125;35317723]Okay, why. Back it up.[/QUOTE] i don't see why you need to taint her memory as an attention-whore whom only put ailment on you. it's not your fault that she died, it's not your friend's faults either. it's just something that happened and you can spend all day looking at it in hindsight wondering what you could have done. but ultimately someone who killed themselves needed help, there's not point arguing that. whatever way she went about getting attention was her cry for help, and she was doing it the only way she knew how. all you are doing now is undermining who she was, and with the "better off dead" perspective towards her represents a poor way off assessing suicidal people. this attention-whoring viewpoint might apply to some people, but taking this stereotype is going to let a lot of people fall under the radar and only increase suicides. and as for your friend, don't demean her memory any more than you already have here. that's just cruel.
[QUOTE=Trogdon;35317843]i don't see why you need to taint her memory as an attention-whore whom only put ailment on you. it's not your fault that she died, it's not your friend's faults either. it's just something that happened and you can spend all day looking at it in hindsight wondering what you could have done. but ultimately someone who killed themselves needed help, there's not point arguing that. whatever way she went about getting attention was her cry for help, and she was doing it the only way she knew how. all you are doing now is undermining who she was, and with the "better off dead" perspective towards her represents a poor way off assessing suicidal people. this attention-whoring viewpoint might apply to some people, but taking this stereotype is going to let a lot of people fall under the radar and only increase suicides. and as for your friend, don't demean her memory any more than you already have here. that's just cruel.[/QUOTE] A person who is dead does not arbitrarily deserve respect if they were undeserving of it in life. The woman was a leech who thrived off making her friends feel sorry for her and fear for her well-being. If one has to commit suicide, do it quietly, make it clean, and leave a message to attempt to bring some comfort to friends. What she did instead made it clear that she WANTED her friends and those who cared about her to feel absolutely miserable, wanted them to be left emotionally scarred, from having to sit and watch her die in helpless fear.
Reading the wording of the article, I get the imperssion they were only online friends. Since they couldn't track her down.
[QUOTE=archangel125;35317876]A person who is dead does not arbitrarily deserve respect if they were undeserving of it in life. The woman was a leech who thrived off making her friends feel sorry for her and fear for her well-being. If one has to commit suicide, do it quietly, make it clean, and leave a message to attempt to bring some comfort to friends. What she did instead made it clear that she WANTED her friends and those who cared about her to feel absolutely miserable, wanted them to be left emotionally scarred, from having to sit and watch her die in helpless fear.[/QUOTE] The end result suggests that such behavior did not make her thrive...Have you considered that how she was acting was an aspect of her illness? She did what she could to feel cared for and in the end that coping mechanism fell through.
[QUOTE=darth-veger;35316555]I miss the other times were when you had a problem, in lets say, a relationship and you would actually take up the time and fix it on your own Today its more like lolnope better kill myself[/QUOTE] Stubbed my toe, BETTER COMMIT SEPPUKU!
[QUOTE=ayaki;35317966]The end result suggests that such behavior did not make her thrive...Have you considered that how she was acting was an aspect of her illness? She did what she could to feel cared for and in the end that coping mechanism fell through.[/QUOTE] Tough shit, I guess. Because by all accounts, she had a good life, but she was convinced she was the victim - Goodness knows of what. She was often urged to seek help by her parents and friends, and given many opportunities to do so. She didn't.
I went 'suicidal depression' that I believe was caused by my inability to relate to any other human being on the face of this planet; Then I discovered pot. But hey, if you were socially incompatible with everyone you meet, you'd be like that too :P As much as I always thought I was superior for being logic-driven and barely even having emotions, I had to admit that I, just like other people who I saw as weak for requiring it, needed social interaction. Basically this brings me out and leads to a ton of failure before I say fuck it. Me trying to get on with other people is more depressing than hermitage. I had a friend that did this. I caught a lot of hell for not going to her funeral. Not sure why. I said to myself "Well, that's fucked up," and moved on with my life.
[QUOTE=Bel Irkalli;35318036]I As much as I always thought I was superior for being logic-driven and barely even having emotions, I had to admit that I, just like other people who I saw as weak for requiring it, needed social interaction. [/QUOTE] Sociopath much?
[QUOTE=archangel125;35317876]A person who is dead does not arbitrarily deserve respect if they were undeserving of it in life. The woman was a leech who thrived off making her friends feel sorry for her and fear for her well-being. If one has to commit suicide, do it quietly, make it clean, and leave a message to attempt to bring some comfort to friends. What she did instead made it clear that she WANTED her friends and those who cared about her to feel absolutely miserable, wanted them to be left emotionally scarred, from having to sit and watch her die in helpless fear.[/QUOTE] There are a lot of people that act that way when they are suicidal. They want help because they made it public but at the same time they don't want it and it is an inner conflict. How many times does someone tell someone else that they want to commit suicide, say they're going to do it and decline help? Is that not a cry for attention? Do they deserve your hate? This person just fulfilled their wishes compared to others. Stop being so black/white.
[QUOTE=Tippmann357;35318136]There are a lot of people that act that way when they are suicidal. They want help because they made it public but at the same time they don't want it and it is an inner conflict. How many times does someone tell someone else that they want to commit suicide, say they're going to do it and decline help? Is that not a cry for attention? Do they deserve your hate? This person just fulfilled their wishes compared to others. Stop being so black/white.[/QUOTE] When you're in the position of a friend or loved one of that individual who has left you an emotional wreck through their constant attention-whoring, you see things very, very differently. It's clear you've never been there. Count yourself lucky.
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