• Poll: Nearly half of Iowan Republicans don't believe Obama was born here
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Updated OP, Sheen has thrown his dunce hat into the arena.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29325509]A rather stupid system. A person should be president based upon merit, not where they come from or their popularity with people.[/QUOTE] I'll have to disagree on the last bit of that sentence. As often as incompetent retards tend to get elected, the fact that elections happen is a damn good thing. Besides, a good leader HAS to be a good people person, and be well liked by those he/she leads. [editline]20th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Xen Tricks;29326308]Updated OP, Sheen has thrown his dunce hat into the arena.[/QUOTE] I think Sheen was just joking about the birth certificate. And I hope his audience knew it, too.
I'm pretty sure he was born in Hawaii, not Iowa.
[QUOTE=archangel125;29326476]I'll have to disagree on the last bit of that sentence. As often as incompetent retards tend to get elected, the fact that elections happen is a damn good thing. Besides, a good leader HAS to be a good people person, and be well liked by those he/she leads. [/QUOTE] yea, otherwise he couldnt get anything done as wrong as you may think it is, a good president is good at manipulating people he needs to when he needs to, if he couldnt then the country would be a shithole
McCain was born in Panama.
[QUOTE=YouWithTheFace.;29325354]he was born over there [img_thumb]http://www.google.com.pr/maps/vt/data=LtgX-e3f8ctI3U5dJtbt7EJ1ZfRneYme,JM5Al1G3toru3t31NQvHn143Km7GlFIevd1jaaFNOKJ_ejZxnDSdmuJLio5P53sSSo_4zh010xuAOz7HDiQ[/img_thumb] right there[/QUOTE] wow, I didn't know honolulu was in kenya! we get it, conservatives are idiots.
All the people who say that Obama wasn't born in the US are just after him because he's black and they're racist as fuck.
[QUOTE=Combine_dumb;29328112]All the people who say that Obama wasn't born in the US are just after him because he's black and they're racist as fuck.[/QUOTE] Pretty much.
Proof that if you repeat a lie loud and often enough, stupid people will consider it truth.
[QUOTE=archangel125;29326476]I'll have to disagree on the last bit of that sentence. As often as incompetent retards tend to get elected, the fact that elections happen is a damn good thing. Besides, a good leader HAS to be a good people person, and be well liked by those he/she leads. [editline]20th April 2011[/editline] I think Sheen was just joking about the birth certificate. And I hope his audience knew it, too.[/QUOTE] I mean that alot of it is just a popularity contest rather than competence. You could have a fellow competent at his job, but is unable to drum up public support well. Meanwhile a incompetent fellow has all the right links and connections, and boosts his popularity, but after being elected they find that he isn't able to do the job.
[QUOTE=Combine_dumb;29328112]All the people who say that Obama wasn't born in the US are just after him because he's black and they're racist as fuck.[/QUOTE] noo you can't say that mentioning race in any capacity is playing the race card, no matter how valid your statement may seem
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;29330137]noo you can't say that mentioning race in any capacity is playing the race card, no matter how valid your statement may seem[/QUOTE] Have to be politically correct and all nowadays. Like if I use the word "Faggot" I get labelled a homophobe, which is to be afraid of gays?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29330155]Have to be politically correct and all nowadays. Like if I use the word "Faggot" I get labelled a homophobe, which is to be afraid of gays?[/QUOTE] No, context means more than the word itself. When you get gold hit up the GMF and see how many instances of "faggot" you can find
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29330672] When you get gold hit up the GMF and see how many instances of "faggot" you can find[/QUOTE] So what you're saying is the GMF is full of faggots?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29330155]Have to be politically correct and all nowadays. Like if I use the word "Faggot" I get labelled a homophobe, which is to be afraid of gays?[/QUOTE] uhh the conservative kneejerk reaction to suggesting obama's race as being involved in their vitriol towards him (painted by them as 'playing the race card') and 'political correctness' are two totally different issues also, not throwing the word "faggot" around isn't "political correctness", it's "being a decent person" because "faggot" is a terrible, hateful word and if I hear someone throwing it around I have every reason to believe they're a homophobe unless they go out of their way to prove to me otherwise and even then that doesn't really justify it i mean, you're using a homophobic slur. what the fuck do you think that's going to make people think about you?
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;29331623]uhh the conservative kneejerk reaction to suggesting obama's race as being involved in their vitriol towards him (painted by them as 'playing the race card') and 'political correctness' are two totally different issues also, not throwing the word "faggot" around isn't "political correctness", it's "being a decent person" because "faggot" is a terrible, hateful word and if I hear someone throwing it around I have every reason to believe they're a homophobe unless they go out of their way to prove to me otherwise and even then that doesn't really justify it i mean, you're using a homophobic slur. what the fuck do you think that's going to make people think about you?[/QUOTE] What the fuck are you talking about we're clearly discussing the meat product [img]http://img.tesco.com/pi/xpi/5/5037780511315_200.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Rofl_copter;29324068]I wonder why they refuse to release his birth certificate..[/QUOTE] why can the media find the phone records of tiger woods when he cheated on his wife in a matter of days Yet no one has ever seen Obama's birth certificate? [editline]21st April 2011[/editline] guys dont say faggot on the internet you may offend someone
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29330155]Have to be politically correct and all nowadays. Like if I use the word "Faggot" I get labelled a homophobe, which is to be afraid of gays?[/QUOTE] Not only do you not realise that the word "faggot" carries hateful and bigoted connotations which everybody has the right to hate you for using, you also don't know what the suffix "phobe" means. You truly are a winner.
[QUOTE=Sanius;29334903]Not only do you not realise that the word "faggot" carries hateful and bigoted connotations which everybody has the right to hate you for using, you also don't know what the suffix "phobe" means. You truly are a winner.[/QUOTE] Well, allow me to retort. [quote="Wikipedia"]A phobia (from the Greek: φόβος,phóbos, meaning "fear" or "morbid fear") is defined as a persistent fear of an object or situation in which the sufferer commits to great lengths in avoiding despite the fear, typically disproportional to the actual danger posed, often being recognized as irrational.[/quote] Know your classical greek and latin suffixes and prefixes. Also, ever seen South Park's approach on this issue, on the episode "The F Word", S13E12? [url=http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s13e12-the-f-word]Here it is[/url]
No, sorry, I don't watch South Park to know what to think. A phobia can be a fear or an antipathy toward something. Hence, homophobia is an antipathy to homosexuals. Not that hard to grasp. [editline]21st April 2011[/editline] By the way, a quote from Wikipedia is not a retort. Please try harder.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29330155]Have to be politically correct and all nowadays. Like if I use the word "Faggot" I get labelled a homophobe, which is to be afraid of gays?[/QUOTE] If its used as a joke and you emphasise the fact that it was a joke, then its fine. If you go around calling gay people faggots, then its unnecessary and you're just insulting them.
[QUOTE=Sanius;29335217]No, sorry, I don't watch South Park to know what to think. A phobia can be a fear or an antipathy toward something. Hence, homophobia is an antipathy to homosexuals. Not that hard to grasp. [editline]21st April 2011[/editline] By the way, a quote from Wikipedia is not a retort. Please try harder.[/QUOTE] The South Park episodes deals with the way in which the word 'faggot' is used nowadays. Sure, it's a pretty rude word. Sure, it has homophobic connotations. But when someone uses the word faggot to insult someone else, they don't necessarily think of them as homossexuals, but as someone who is annoying. So, if you hate someone for saying it, that's an overreaction in my view. I don't see what you're trying to say in the second part. And I made a retort to your claim that he didn't know what 'phobia' meant by presenting you with the definition, which, though more specific, still agrees with what he said.
[QUOTE=torero;29335501]The South Park episodes deals with the way in which the word 'faggot' is used nowadays. Sure, it's a pretty rude word. Sure, it has homophobic connotations. But when someone uses the word faggot to insult someone else, they don't necessarily think of them as homossexuals, but as someone who is annoying. So, if you hate someone for saying it, that's an overreaction in my view.[/QUOTE] You have to be braindead not to see that the word "faggot" used as an insult is homophobic in nature no matter what you say. The only reason "faggot" is an insult is because it implies that somebody is a homosexual and that homosexuality is bad. You're just as idiotic as somebody who thinks reverse racism exists and that saying "I'm not politically correct" is an excuse to be a massive asshole.
We have an entire emote describing conserative republicans: :bahgawd:
[QUOTE=koekje4life V2;29335545]We have an entire emote describing conserative republicans: :bahgawd:[/QUOTE] I'd go with :downs: or :buttertroll:, but that's just me.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;29331623]uhh the conservative kneejerk reaction to suggesting obama's race as being involved in their vitriol towards him (painted by them as 'playing the race card') and 'political correctness' are two totally different issues also, not throwing the word "faggot" around isn't "political correctness", it's "being a decent person" because "faggot" is a terrible, hateful word and if I hear someone throwing it around I have every reason to believe they're a homophobe unless they go out of their way to prove to me otherwise and even then that doesn't really justify it i mean, you're using a homophobic slur. what the fuck do you think that's going to make people think about you?[/QUOTE] They will think I am a differently abled individual.
[QUOTE=Sanius;29335544]You have to be braindead not to see that the word "faggot" used as an insult is homophobic in nature no matter what you say. The only reason "faggot" is an insult is because it implies that somebody is a homosexual and that homosexuality is bad. You're just as idiotic as somebody who thinks reverse racism exists and that saying "I'm not politically correct" is an excuse to be a massive asshole.[/QUOTE] I don't even get what you're trying to attack. I agree that "faggot" shouldn't be used in any serious context. When I see the word "faggot" being used, however, I almost never think of it as implying homosexuality is bad, except when the WBC or someone like them uses it. PS: Although it is bad and all gay people will rot in hell, oh lord, amen.
[QUOTE=torero;29336368]I don't even get what you're trying to attack. I agree that "faggot" shouldn't be used in any serious context. When I see the word "faggot" being used, however, I almost never think of it as implying homosexuality is bad, except when the WBC or someone like them uses it. PS: Although it is bad and all gay people will rot in hell, oh lord, amen.[/QUOTE] What do you honestly think faggot is used to describe? Really, Take a long look at that word and think. Don't ask South Park to think for you.
[QUOTE=amute;29337965]What do you honestly think faggot is used to describe? Really, Take a long look at that word and think. Don't ask South Park to think for you.[/QUOTE] This is what comes to my mind when I think of the word Faggot. I'm thinking of a man with an annoyingly high-pitched voice shouting in the middle of the supermarket for some stupid reason the other day. I don't know nor do I care if the man in that situation was gay. I don't know what you are trying to prove or understand.
[QUOTE=torero;29338105]This is what comes to my mind when I think of the word Faggot. I'm thinking of a man with an annoyingly high-pitched voice shouting in the middle of the supermarket for some stupid reason the other day. I don't know nor do I care if the man in that situation was gay. I don't know what you are trying to prove or understand.[/QUOTE] Idiot. The word 'faggot' refers to bundles of wood that were infamously used in the burning of homosexuals in the dark ages. It will never be anything today but a bigoted anti-gay slur, so stop pretending that it's anything else.
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