Poll: Nearly half of Iowan Republicans don't believe Obama was born here
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[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29341810]No you idiot, free rights is what every person should have.[/QUOTE]
You seriously wrote [I][B]that[/B][/I] as satire?
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;29344046]You seriously wrote [I][B]that[/B][/I] as satire?[/QUOTE]
no im serious everybody should have free say in everything the government is full of fascists who want to put iodine in our water to kill us
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;29341273]ugh don't pull that dumb "aren't there more important issues worry about" argument on me. it's not like you can't do something important [I]and[/I] not say the word faggot. It takes literally no willpower or exertion of effort to not say the word. All you're doing is proving that you aren't willing to actually address my argument.
I consider being member of society who is a decent human being to the people around him to be an important goal, which is why I don't call people faggots.
But apparently being civil is dumb hippie liberal bullshit.[/QUOTE]
I'm Sobotnik, I can only either remember to wipe my ass after taking a shit or remember to not say faggot
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29341753]Ok fine if you really want I will troll on the opposite end of the spectrum.[/QUOTE]
three steps to successful trolling:
1. don't admit that you're a troll
2.
3.
Personally I think you should say whatever the fuck you want and if some retarded faggot takes offense they should jump in a wood chipper.
The words you use are of literally no importance. All that matters is the context you use them in and the sentiment behind them. People are so fucking obsessed with this idealistic state of being "happy" and "pure" that doesn't fucking exist, and because of that society is way too fucking anal when it comes to things as trivial as words.
If you want to be offended, be offended because the opinion being expressed is fucking stupid. Be offended that someone is thick enough to be a homophobe. Don't be offended every time someone says faggot, or queer, or whatever the hell have you.
Besides, faggot is a good insult. Lots of Guh and Tih sounds. Also has that nice Fff from fuck. Sounds strong.
Mr. Scorpio, how is being a socially inept reject going for you?
How did this thread turn from "Republicans don't believe Obama was born here", to some sort of homosexual linguistics debate?
Anyhow, the politicians that argue against Obama's birth certificate could likely be using one of the many anti-Obama cards to draw support from people of the following categories:
1. Racists (ohgawd playing de raec card)
2. Tea-Party members
3. Old People
4. Misled Young People
5. Militant Conservatives (the kind who want to push all liberals from government, then when liberals push back "OHEMGEE FIRST AMENDMINT VIOLASHUN")
[QUOTE=Sanius;29344422]Mr. Scorpio, how is being a socially inept reject going for you?[/QUOTE]
All opinions are taken seriously and respected, as long as they are pro-liberal.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29344553]All opinions are taken seriously and respected, as long as they are pro-liberal.[/QUOTE]
the problem with his statement isn't that it isn't 'liberal', the problem with his statement is that it's terrible on it's own merits
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29344553]All opinions are taken seriously and respected, as long as they are pro-liberal.[/QUOTE]
I don't see how it is pro- or anti-liberal. It doesn't really enter into that subject at all.
[QUOTE=torero;29346271]I don't see how it is pro- or anti-liberal. It doesn't really enter into that subject at all.[/QUOTE]
Anything that he disagrees with is pro-liberal in his mind.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;29345287]the problem with his statement isn't that it isn't 'liberal', the problem with his statement is that it's terrible on it's own merits[/QUOTE]
so are we not allowed to call someone dumb anymore?
what about retarded?
what about an ass?
how about slow?
a bitch?
what about calling a girl a slut or whore?
or a guy a dick/prick?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29341619]It'll be good once humanity goes back to the mindset of the Victorians.[/QUOTE]
good for who
[QUOTE=thisispain;29348480]good for who[/QUOTE]
victorian buffs?
[editline]22nd April 2011[/editline]
these girls will have an orgasm..or somethin
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[QUOTE=thisispain;29348480]good for who[/QUOTE]
whom
[QUOTE=yawmwen;29346449]so are we not allowed to call someone dumb anymore?[/QUOTE]
yeah you are
but don't be surprised when people think bad of you
calling someone retarded will net a negative response just like faggot
why are we suddenly pretending insulting people would have no negative consequences if people didn't have "liberal guilt", i thought the whole idea behind saying an insult would be it having a negative consequence
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[QUOTE=Sanius;29348498]whom[/QUOTE]
no i'm british
The stupidity is hurting me..
[QUOTE=thisispain;29348507]yeah you are
but don't be surprised when people think bad of you
calling someone retarded will net a negative response just like faggot
why are we suddenly pretending insulting people would have no negative consequences if people didn't have "liberal guilt", i thought the whole idea behind saying an insult would be it having a negative consequence
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im not saying anything about liberal guilt
im saying that faggot shouldnt be looked down upon anymore than any other insult
does it have a proper place in polite conversation? no
is it homophobic? not necessarily
[QUOTE=yawmwen;29348556]im not saying anything about liberal guilt
im saying that faggot shouldnt be looked down upon anymore than any other insult
does it have a proper place in polite conversation? no
is it homophobic? not necessarily[/QUOTE]
Its use stems from homophobia just like the term nigger stems from racism
You can use nigger as a general insult against anyone but don't come crying to me when some black folks get upset at you
[QUOTE=yawmwen;29348556]
im saying that faggot shouldnt be looked down upon anymore than any other insult
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is it? i mean there's no real standard for it
calling a buff trucker dude a faggot means something really different from calling a gay dude faggot
[QUOTE=thisispain;29348624]
calling a buff trucker dude a faggot means something really different from calling a gay dude faggot[/QUOTE]
no actually faggot has the same meaning either way
[QUOTE=Sanius;29348645]no actually faggot has the same meaning either way[/QUOTE]
not really i doubt the buff trucker dude had a history of struggling with being called a faggot
it's like calling a white dude nigger compared to calling an old black dude nigger
[QUOTE=thisispain;29348657]
it's like calling a white dude nigger compared to calling an old black dude nigger[/QUOTE]
you're right it's exactly like that because calling a white guy a nigger is the same as calling a black guy a nigger
calling somebody a faggot is implying that they are gay and that being gay is bad, calling somebody a nigger is implying that they are black and that black people are useless and stupid
[QUOTE=Sanius;29348677]you're right it's exactly like that because calling a white guy a nigger is the same as calling a black guy a nigger
calling somebody a faggot is implying that they are gay and that being gay is bad, calling somebody a nigger is implying that they are black and that black people are useless and stupid[/QUOTE]
i'm looking at it from a more person-to-person perspective
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29348608]Its use stems from homophobia just like the term nigger stems from racism
You can use nigger as a general insult against anyone but don't come crying to me when some black folks get upset at you[/QUOTE]
except nigger has no other meaning
faggot is used as a general insult very widely, not just as a homophobic slur
[QUOTE=yawmwen;29348761]
faggot is used as a general insult very widely, not just as a homophobic slur[/QUOTE]
it's used very widely because homophobia is wide-spread and ingraned into society moreso than racism is
[QUOTE=Sanius;29348777]it's used very widely because homophobia is wide-spread and ingraned into society moreso than racism is[/QUOTE]
so isnt it a good thing to use it more and take power away from the word?
[QUOTE=yawmwen;29348796]so isnt it a good thing to use it more and take power away from the word?[/QUOTE]
yes because constantly using a homophobic slur makes it okay as if by magic
it's really easy to trivialize homophobic slurs when you're straight
[QUOTE=Sanius;29348804]yes because constantly using a homophobic slur makes it okay as if by magic
it's really easy to trivialize homophobic slurs when you're straight[/QUOTE]
Actually, yes, using any word in a different context changes the meaning of it, you don't believe english is transitory?
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[QUOTE=Sanius;29344422]Mr. Scorpio, how is being a socially inept reject going for you?[/QUOTE]
From the quality of your posts, it's far more likely you're the shut in, not he.
[editline]21st April 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Sanius;29348498]whom[/QUOTE]
Uh, that's not a word anymore, it's just who.
[editline]21st April 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Sanius;29348645]no actually faggot has the same meaning either way[/QUOTE]
...You're so fucking thick if you really think context doesn't change ever.
[editline]21st April 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Sanius;29348677]you're right it's exactly like that because calling a white guy a nigger is the same as calling a black guy a nigger
calling somebody a faggot is implying that they are gay and that being gay is bad, calling somebody a nigger is implying that they are black and that black people are useless and stupid[/QUOTE]
No, not at all
[editline]21st April 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=yawmwen;29348761]except nigger has no other meaning
faggot is used as a general insult very widely, not just as a homophobic slur[/QUOTE]
Nigger, just as any other word, is transitory and has no set definition. It only has connotations and denotations, and a denotation doesn't apply to every day use of every word
[QUOTE=thisispain;29348695]i'm looking at it from a more person-to-person perspective[/QUOTE]
all societies are just large webs person-to-person perspectives
[editline]22nd April 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;29349053]
Nigger, just as any other word, is transitory and has no set definition. It only has connotations and denotations, and a denotation doesn't apply to every day use of every word[/QUOTE]
language is transitory but not so transitory that it is meaningless. transitory means that it changes over time, but it still has, within each group that is aware of it's existence, a generally accepted meaning at any given moment of time. faggot meant something different a long time ago and it will probably mean something different in the future, but currently, at this moment in the year of our lord 2011, it is a hateful word and so, until it transitions to a non-hateful word, you shouldn't use it unless you're ok with people rightfully assuming that you're hateful
[editline]22nd April 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=yawmwen;29346449]so are we not allowed to call someone dumb anymore?
what about retarded?
what about an ass?
how about slow?
a bitch?
what about calling a girl a slut or whore?
or a guy a dick/prick?[/QUOTE]
sure. maybe you should not go around calling people sluts and retards because
i'm not saying you shouldn't be allowed to do that, i'm just saying you shouldn't expect people to not make judgments about you for it
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