• Microsoft adds anti-piracy terms to EULA and may disable unauthorised software and hardware.
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Fuck off Microsoft I need utorrent to download linux distros :disgust:
[QUOTE=Thunderbolt;48457246]and I somehow doubt that's gonna change anytime soon because devs just can't be bothered porting a game to multiple operating systems, it's not a big enough market.[/QUOTE] And the market isn't big enough because the big titles aren't on Linux yet. It's a cursed vicious circle.
[QUOTE=Darkwater124;48457339]And the market isn't big enough because the big titles aren't on Linux yet. It's a cursed vicious circle.[/QUOTE]It is, and for the sake of money they choose to do what works.
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;48457578]IMO if the OpenGL tooling was improved it would lower the barrier to entry for Linux, but quite a few major engines have already made the jump.[/QUOTE] Vulkan comes to mind
The anti-piracy crusade of software and media giants will likely end in the death of their own market. I hope these assholes will enjoy killing their entire private consumer market and leaving on witless schools, libraries and offices to buy their neigh useless crap.
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;48457642]Is this Windows 10 only? Or can microsoft just update the EULA to any service any time they feel like, pretty much not really making it a real contract or agreement at all? Because I'm certain you can't just say "Oh yeah and I can change anything I want about this contract (:" and have it still be enforceable.[/QUOTE] It's not a contract. EULA/TOS are not contracts. For an EULA to be "valid" you have to agree to it. But if EULA changes they actually only need to notify you. Plenty of services add to/change eula without you having to agree to it as it's assumed you agree to it by default if you continue using their service.
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;48457686]Excellent, what an amazing way to increase piracy rates, then! Is it just the EULA for win 10, or is it all windows OS/ "services"? Article doesn't say.[/QUOTE] It doesn't even say if it's for win10. It's implied, but doesn't actually seem to say. MS has many different eulas for different things.
[QUOTE=NeverGoWest;48457622]The anti-piracy crusade of software and media giants will likely end in the death of their own market. I hope these assholes will enjoy killing their entire private consumer market and leaving on witless schools, libraries and offices to buy their neigh useless crap.[/QUOTE] Do you hear yourself? You're saying that anti-piracy will get customers to stop buying. Pirates weren't buying it in the first place.
So how does this affect people building computers? [editline]14th August 2015[/editline] Also Microsoft being able to regulate authorised software is a joke since the first time it flags some business custom software as pirated they'll be sued to death
I will say that this thing will only backfire in a monumental scale if it get applied, even only on win10, it would end up badly both for Microsoft and many pc builders that use Windows as a OS (which basicaly means,almost everyonel).
Can't wait for it to detect and delete Halo Online. I just know it's going to be one of them.
So far not upgrading has been a turned out to be a very good decision.
Im thinking of building a new PC and when I do, I'm going to have Windows 7 for literally only gaming and I'm going to do all serious work on my Ubuntu Laptop
[QUOTE=proboardslol;48461337]Im thinking of building a new PC and when I do, I'm going to have Windows 7 for literally only gaming and I'm going to do all serious work on my Ubuntu Laptop[/QUOTE] Mannn... Don't go the Ubuntu route. Pick a real distro.
[QUOTE=Levelog;48462399]Mannn... Don't go the Ubuntu route. Pick a real distro.[/QUOTE] What would you consider to be a real distro?
[QUOTE=Zombie_2371;48462533]What would you consider to be a real distro?[/QUOTE] Gentoo is the realest of the real.
I get the feeling this won't ever be used unless it's in extremely specific cases and circumstances, they're just covering their asses in the EULA for the time being.
[QUOTE=Sableye;48457760]Also Microsoft being able to regulate authorised software is a joke since the first time it flags some business custom software as pirated they'll be sued to death[/QUOTE] Custom software is what scares me the most. Are they only going to accept software from some kind of certified list of manufacturers? The method of implementing this is too vague to really understand what it affects.
what if this is just for store apps? like someone will figure out how to install pirated apps in powershell, then microsoft will remove them when it detects them as pirated
[QUOTE=Levelog;48462399]Mannn... Don't go the Ubuntu route. Pick a real distro.[/QUOTE] I'm already on Ubuntu, and I use it because apt is the best and most supported packaging tool on any linux distro. The same reason google uses Ubuntu
really guys did no one actually read this "Many of these products previously had separate terms that were called different names, such as “[B]Xbox Live Terms of Use[/B]” or “Skype Terms of Use,” and these Terms replace those separate terms. You accept these Terms by creating a Microsoft account or Skype account, through your use of the Services, or by continuing to use the Services after being notified of a change to these Terms." it's pretty obvious that this was from the xbox live ToU and they'll really only do it on the xbox one
Wasn't there some sort of rumor that even Windows 7 had this sort of functionality? Also, the way they word it, it sounds like it's more centric to Windows Update or the Windows Store. There's really no way they could do it across the entire OS unless they just want to create massive issues for everyone. [QUOTE=Levelog;48462399]Mannn... Don't go the Ubuntu route. Pick a real distro.[/QUOTE] Can we not go with the stupid ass distro wars? Even if there's some things I don't like about Ubuntu, at the end of the day, it's Linux, and you can do whatever the hell you want with Linux. Besides, there's no denying that Ubuntu is currently the most supported Linux distro out there. Even if you don't like it, chances are, most software made for Linux will have less issues on Ubuntu than it would on Arch or Gentoo.
[QUOTE=eirexe;48463994]what if this is just for store apps? like someone will figure out how to install pirated apps in powershell, then microsoft will remove them when it detects them as pirated[/QUOTE]It only applies to store apps and retail/Non-Store Microsoft products and services in the first place. [url=http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/servicesagreement/]Scroll to the bottom to see all the applications this applies to.[/url]
[QUOTE=proboardslol;48464509]I'm already on Ubuntu, and I use it because apt is the best and most supported packaging tool on any linux distro. The same reason google uses Ubuntu[/QUOTE] Have you even tried Arch (or a distro based on it)? IMO pacman is far superior to apt. My guess for why entities like Google and Valve use Ubuntu is because it's easier to support and the packages are a bit more stable. [editline]15th August 2015[/editline] I'm not saying everyone should use Arch instead of Ubuntu because it does cost a lot more effort to do anything, but I simply think apt is a bad package manager.
I'm saying even like Debian, you've still got apt and so much support. I just strongly dislike Canonical and what they're doing.
[QUOTE=Marik Bentusi;48456874]Looks like they really are locking down the system more and more, seeing how the article not only mentions software, but also "unauthorized hardware". Sounds like exactly the type of control Gabe Newell worried about when he saw Win8, tho I guess we're not quite in "for the safety of our customers, we only allow Microsoft-certified hardware to be plugged in" territory yet.[/QUOTE] I'm a bit out of the loop, what exactly was Gabe worried about with Win8?
[QUOTE=ElectricSquid;48464949]I'm a bit out of the loop, what exactly was Gabe worried about with Win8?[/QUOTE] Gaben thought Microsoft was going to go to a walled garden-approach like Apple has for programs
I think everyone is just counting their chickens before they hatch here. I honestly doubt Microsoft is actually going to employ these things. Why? Simple, the absence of these sorts of rules is what made Windows such a widely used OS in the first place, and Microsoft knows that. They're probably just updating their EULA for legal reasons.
[QUOTE=Darkwater124;48464604]Have you even tried Arch (or a distro based on it)? IMO pacman is far superior to apt. My guess for why entities like Google and Valve use Ubuntu is because it's easier to support and the packages are a bit more stable. [editline]15th August 2015[/editline] I'm not saying everyone should use Arch instead of Ubuntu because it does cost a lot more effort to do anything, but I simply think apt is a bad package manager.[/QUOTE] I've tried arch, but the Ubuntu community is larger than any other linux community so finding help with a problem is much easier on Ubuntu. Also I really don't see any advantage to non-debian non-Ubuntu distros
[QUOTE=proboardslol;48465109]I've tried arch, but the Ubuntu community is larger than any other linux community so finding help with a problem is much easier on Ubuntu. Also I really don't see any advantage to non-debian non-Ubuntu distros[/QUOTE] Well red hat based distros are huge in many sectors. I was just suggesting actual Debian over Ubuntu. Or any other Debian base.
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