[QUOTE=Ond kaja;30165932][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_power[/url][/QUOTE]
I've seen some expalinations and versions of that
All equal in amount of bullshit
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;30166056]By the time the planets source of thorium is exhausted, I sure hope we have found a way to do deep space mining. Nuclear fuel will last forever, and is the only sustainable, large energy yield fuel we have to date. Wind and Solar will exhaust A LOT of resources by the time they're fully implemented. Even battery operated cars (Plugs ins and hybrids) will do more destruction to the planet over time than internal combustion engines.[/QUOTE]
Everyone seem to think that renewable energy sources automatically means solar panels or windmills, it's not. Water power, for example has a relatively high efficiency, and can complement nuclear power as of today. They are also decentralised so that's a plus too. But it's not enough, so funding research on renewable energy should be done until we can find a better source of energy.
There's no way for thorium to last forever since it's not a renewable source of energy, and deep space mining will most likely cost more than constructing enough power plants of renewable energy to provide the entire population of Earth with electricity.
Can you elaborate on the last sentence?
[QUOTE=Ond kaja;30166382]Everyone seem to think that renewable energy sources automatically means solar panels or windmills, it's not. Water power, for example has a relatively high efficiency, and can complement nuclear power as of today. They are also decentralised so that's a plus too. But it's not enough, so funding research on renewable energy should be done until we can find a better source of energy.
There's no way for thorium to last forever since it's not a renewable source of energy, and deep space mining will most likely cost more than constructing enough power plants of renewable energy to provide the entire population of Earth with electricity.
Can you elaborate on the last sentence?[/QUOTE]
Hybrids/EC's use Lithium Ion battery packs.. still need more elaboration or should you read up on Lithium and its lack of abundance?
And yeah, you're right.. I didn't say thorium was renewable. Its just abundant, which doesn't mean unlimited. On that case, thorium molten salts should be the main source of energy till fusion can be created. which is still a nuclear technology... which can help us with deep space missions on large craft.
Water power is pretty destructive. Read up on the 3 gorges dam and the Itaipu dam's. Geothermal is the only other method, which has a better hope to it.
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;30166615]Hybrids/EC's use Lithium Ion battery packs.. still need more elaboration or should you read up on Lithium and its lack of abundance? [/quote]
Lithium is rare, lithium ions are not.
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And yeah, you're right.. I didn't say thorium was renewable. Its just abundant, which doesn't mean unlimited. On that case, thorium molten salts should be the main source of energy till fusion can be created. which is still a nuclear technology... which can help us with deep space missions on large craft.
[/quote]Hold on there, we don't know IF we can use nuclear fusion as a method of producing power, because the extreme temperatures fusion requires is enough to melt every solid material that exists. I'm not against research on this subject but keep in mind that nuclear fusion would be an even more centralised source of energy, since it produces more energy. When energy production is centralised, a simple maintenace stoppage will increase the price of electrical power significantly.
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Water power is pretty destructive. Read up on the 3 gorges dam and the Itaipu dam's. Geothermal is the only other method, which has a better hope to it.[/QUOTE]Oh, I don't think you have the authority to use water power's negative impacts on the surrounding areas as an argument for nuclear energy, considering quarrying for thorium and uranium is pretty destructive as well, especially if we're going to do it indefinitely.
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