• YouTube to kill the unskippable 30-second ads next year
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I've barely had any unskippable ads on mobile, but the skippable ones glitch out with the 5 second timer so it sometimes takes 7-9 seconds before the skip button even becomes visible. On PC though I use the hosts file adblock and then ABP on top of it, I don't really mind the ads too much on mobile to warrant getting adblock on my phone too. The only thing that irritates me on mobile is the in-the-middle ads that play during the video, and even those haven't happened to me too many times.
I keep getting ads for Mercury Cider that have a 15 second skit followed by a 15 second part at the end with a silent screen being looped over and over with links to the company's other videos. It's very awkward.
[QUOTE=Scratch.;51844355]that's cute [t]https://jii.moe/Byy5-WvYl.png[/t] I've noticed the ads on mobile are more often unskippable now some of them are nice a quick, optimised and efficient but I've seen some really bad ones that are downright annoying content[/QUOTE] [t]http://i.imgur.com/fEX9bPF.png[/t] Ads completely drove me away from television like 8 years ago and I have never sat down and watched TV since, the constant breaks of unskippable 6 minute chunks of bullshit are just awful They just can't advertise responsibly, I can accept some banners but no it has to be an extremely obnoxious 200% volume piece of shit you can't skip, advertising something you literally don't care about and will never buy
[QUOTE=phygon;51838365]uuuh, no. There's a reason that targeted ads exist.[/QUOTE] tbh targeted ads are the worst... its like... yes because buying a gtx 1080 and then getting ads for gtx 9xx and 10xx series cards will totally convince me of anything or I buy a sports car and suddenly I get car ads... for cars that are lesser in quality. That or a model car prop and I get advertised hot wheels or something or I buy a mirror and I get advertised weight loss books It's annoying when you already have the product and have made your decision but still getting ads for X thing you don't need now. I wish targeted ads were smarter. I bought "Waterbeads" on amazon and i got tons of listings of what basically amounts to the exact same product.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;51844285]Can you actually cite sources on this ? Because I don't remember people ever complaining that youtube specifically was getting malware-filled ads - mostly because a lot of them are displayed as banners during the videos, or until now as their own video before the real one starts. Sounds like you're projecting issues from other, less scrupulous websites onto youtube/google.[/QUOTE] [url]https://labs.bromium.com/2014/02/21/the-wild-wild-web-youtube-ads-serving-malware/[/url] [url]http://www.pcworld.com/article/2604480/malicious-advertising-hits-amazon-youtube-and-yahoo-cisco-says.html[/url] [url]http://www.digitaltrends.com/social-media/youtube-has-an-ad-malware-problem-heres-how-to-avoid-it/[/url] And that's just three articles from the top 5 of google chosen because their publishing dates were far enough apart that it's reasonably likely they're seperate events. You want more sources? Don't like the ones I chose at random? [url=https://www.google.com/search?q=youtube+serves+malware+on+ad&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8]Here's the rest of them[/url] It has happened before. It will happen again. Ads are a great way for a trustworthy site like Youtube to serve you up the latest and greatest in keylogging technology with a side dish of ransomware and a good old fashioned bootloader trojan to wash it all down with, all based solely on the whimsy of the bored hacker plundering an insecure third party ad server. Now stop accusing people of projecting every time they say something you don't agree with. As for the rest of your post...I'm too tired to answer it point by point so I'm just going to throw a blanket statement down: Your points are irrelevant to the base purpose of an ad. They address the intricacies of designing the ad, what makes it work, why they are made the way they are. They do not address why the ad exists at all. Mine does, and it is simple: Ads exist to get my money, your money, Joe Blow's money, into a corporation's pocket by goading us into buying something we weren't already going to buy. That is the purest form of an ad, that is the spirit of the ad, the reason it exists, the reason companies pour so much money into creating them, to commissioning those catchy jingles, to studying our psychology and trying to manipulate it. They wouldn't do that if it didn't net them a fuckhuge ROI, if it didn't get people buying things they weren't planning on buying. The basest, most pure reason for advertising to exist is to extract customer's money for things that customer wasn't already planning to get, to sway that customer into making a purchase they weren't initially going to make.
That third one isn't even about ads being malware, it's about a specific adware that replaces ads. Hard to take you seriously if you don't even read up on your own sources my man
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;51844449]That third one isn't even about ads being malware, it's about a specific adware that replaces ads. Hard to take you seriously if you don't even read up on your own sources my man[/QUOTE] Look, I'm four hours late for bedtime and I really can't be bothered to vet the sources. I grabbed three results from the google search based solely on them being posted on different sites at fairly distant time intervals. You want better sources? I included a link to the results page, go nuts. To be honest I really don't give a shit if you take me seriously. I gave you sources. I gave you the google search I ran. There's nothing more I'm obligated to do. I said my piece, I backed it up, we have nothing further to discuss. I'm going to bed.
[QUOTE=TestECull;51838952]Wall of armchair marketing[/QUOTE] I'll ask you a question. Have you spend more than an hour in your life looking up how advertising works? Because in your big post right there, all I'm seeing is asumptions of someone who read the short text at the begining of the wikipedia article. This may come as odd to you, but advertising does not operate on asumptions. Quite the oposite, it operates on concrete data, often gathered from people directly. Lets start with the the basics. You're asuming that an ad exists to sell you on a product that you dont need. False. An ad exists to reaise awareness for a product. It exists to plant the idea of its existance in your head for later use when the need for a that product or something similar arises. [QUOTE]No, an ad wants me to buy whatever it's selling. At least four, five times a day I hear Denis Leary come on the radio and try to sell me on a 2017 Ford F150, waxing lyrical about its JDPower awards, blablabla. But that ad is failed, because I don't need or want a 2017 Ford F-150. I'm happy with my 1985 F150 and I don't plan on replacing it anytime soon.[/QUOTE] You're assuming that just because an ad targeted at a general audience of people, who are listening to the radio mind you, didnt get your attention, it failed. False. It succeded. You now have the ad commited to memory and should you ever feel displeasure from your Ford and consider making a switch in the near future, the ad will spring back to mind. Others have already gone the extra mile and are taking the product purchase into consideration. Another thing you assume is that a secondary audience of the ad is the main focus. No, the fact that you heard an ad for feminine products and whatever junk you dont need, means that you are the main focus of the ad. No, you are the secondary audience who will hear this. The main audience are the other people in their cars who will have needs for those products. [QUOTE] Those ads will have all failed, because they were put up to get me to buy things that I wasn't going to buy, and I didn't buy those things. I went in, and I bought the pants I decided on buying before I ever left the house. Person B may set out with the same plan as I had, however, when they see an ad for some addidas trackpants, they suddenly think to themselves 'Ya know what I could use a new pair of sweats' and make the buy. That ad was successful, because person B didn't initially even want sweatpants and bought some after seeing the ad. Moreover, they bought the brand in the ad. That is the difference. Ads want to turn people like me into person B, because if the ad can do that the company that commissioned the ad makes money and thus is more likely to commission more ads from the ad company again. [/QUOTE] The goal of advertisement being raising awarenes for a product makes this mute. You had your mind set on a specific product in mind and would buy said product no matter what. Bloke B however has not. He was never as dedicated as you were to just buy one thing and get out so he decided to spend the extra cash. The ads didnt fail. You just had no intentions to spend more money. There is no point in adressing the last part of your post, since it would be me just repeating myself.
[QUOTE=Nemisis116;51844423][t]http://i.imgur.com/fEX9bPF.png[/t] Ads completely drove me away from television like 8 years ago and I have never sat down and watched TV since, the constant breaks of unskippable 6 minute chunks of bullshit are just awful They just can't advertise responsibly, I can accept some banners but no it has to be an extremely obnoxious 200% volume piece of shit you can't skip, advertising something you literally don't care about and will never buy[/QUOTE] When upgrading to Fibre, we closed our homephone because all the calls were telemarketing, everyone just uses the mobile now
Replaces unskippable 30 second ads with unskippable 3 minute ads.
if I get that unskippable 30 second Lucky Charms ad one more [b]FUCKING TIME I SWEAR--[/b]
I had completely forgotten about the YT ads considering I had been using adblocker for years :v:
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