[QUOTE=DaysBefore;44057107]I love how many nerdy space references we can think of when we put our minds to it[/QUOTE]
well at least it hasn't found any monoliths, though i think we are required to find the moon's monolith first so its all on the LRO right now
[QUOTE=Sableye;44057181]well at least it hasn't found any monoliths, though i think we are required to find the moon's monolith first so its all on the LRO right now[/QUOTE]
I am really hoping we don't find FTL tech, I rather have us invent it.
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[QUOTE=Joazzz;44056602]we should use the Warp instead, or preferably, the Webway[/QUOTE]
If you mean Warp from Star Trek, fuck that, I hope FTL in Stargate is real, it is much faster, it takes like 3 weeks to go to galaxy to galaxy while with Warp, it takes 70 years from one end of the milky way to the other.
[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;44057258]If you mean Warp from Star Trek,[/QUOTE]
he doesn't
[QUOTE=Xystus234;44056249]Interesting to note that Earth is a low gravity world in comparison to other planets.[/QUOTE]
Hydrogen and helium that make up most of the gas giants make up most of the matter of the universe, so it only makes sense that more planets are composed of them. Rocky planets are made from elements that must first be created via fusion in stars, so they're more rare.
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[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;44057258]I am really hoping we don't find FTL tech, I rather have us invent it.[/QUOTE]
I hope not, then causality will be violated and nothing will make sense.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;44057302]he doesn't[/QUOTE]
Corollary to that,
Here's the most overused of many warp designs:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive[/url]
[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;44057258]If you mean Warp from Star Trek,[/QUOTE][QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;44057302]he doesn't[/QUOTE]exactly, i mean the kind of Warp where your spaceship jumps into Hell and back and possibly gets ripped apart by eldritch monsters
should be fun
[QUOTE=Bradyns;44057343]Corollary to that,
Here's the most overused of many warp designs:
[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;44057302]he doesn't[/QUOTE]
Oh shit, a real warp system? Welp, now to read shit about this.
[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;44057713]Oh shit, a real warp system? Welp, now to read shit about this.[/QUOTE]
Yes all we need is a negative energy density (probably doesn't exist).
[QUOTE=Falubii;44057319]Hydrogen and helium that make up most of the gas giants make up most of the matter of the universe, so it only makes sense that more planets are composed of them. Rocky planets are made from elements that must first be created via fusion in stars, so they're more rare.
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I hope not, then causality will be violated and nothing will make sense.[/QUOTE]
Nothing makes sense to me already, so win-win.
It's not a stretch to think that in the end, travelling outside of our solar system might not be even remotely feasible. If we can't find a way to exceed the speed of light without significant downsides, it probably won't be possible to reach other solar systems. Even if you build an arc that travels at sub-FTL speeds, the travelling time is so humongous that even if you put all systems to sleep and humans in cryo-storage, everything would still slowly decay and break down long before you arrive anywhere interesting.
FTL travel will probably never happen.
But let's keep trying to find some way to travel fast enough to actually expand into the universe.
we space rednecks now
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;44056355]Just need to send a Stargate over there on a probe ship. Problem solved.[/QUOTE]
The nice thing about these planets is that they'll all look like the areas surrounding Vancouver
[QUOTE=Clavus;44060082]It's not a stretch to think that in the end, travelling outside of our solar system might not be even remotely feasible. If we can't find a way to exceed the speed of light without significant downsides, it probably won't be possible to reach other solar systems. Even if you build an arc that travels at sub-FTL speeds, the travelling time is so humongous that even if you put all systems to sleep and humans in cryo-storage, everything would still slowly decay and break down long before you arrive anywhere interesting.[/QUOTE]
If the ship finished its burn and all its systems were off there would be no reason for it to decay, at least if it is uninhabited. You wouldn't need to fill it with oxygen so no oxidation should take place, ie no damage done to the metal and once far enough from the sun it shouldn't need radiation shielding either. At most it would need some basic AI routine to trigger reactivation upon arrival.
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The most questionable feature would be cryo-sleep, AFAIK that kind of technology isn't even in a state of infancy. But autonomous probes shouldn't be an issue I guess.
[QUOTE=_Axel;44069266]If the ship finished its burn and all its systems were off there would be no reason for it to decay, at least if it is uninhabited. You wouldn't need to fill it with oxygen so no oxidation should take place, ie no damage done to the metal and once far enough from the sun it shouldn't need radiation shielding either. At most it would need some basic AI routine to trigger reactivation upon arrival.
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The most questionable feature would be cryo-sleep, AFAIK that kind of technology isn't even in a state of infancy. But autonomous probes shouldn't be an issue I guess.[/QUOTE]
It's hard to design a vehicle in which nothing will go wrong in a 20 year trip.
[QUOTE=Falubii;44069336]It's hard to design a vehicle in which nothing will go wrong in a 20 year trip.[/QUOTE]
Not particularly if nothing happens in it for those 20 years, no?
I mean if you send a solid lead shell out of the solar system it will look exactly the same upon arrival. This isn't like a car which constantly uses power and loses some to heat or friction, deteriorating its engine, or a plane which has to constantly spin its turbines in order to keep its velocity. A spaceship's only requirement would be to provide enough energy for the initial burn and for braking upon arrival (and probably some corrections on the way there).
How about we just make spaceships that move the universe like in Futurama.
[QUOTE=Banhfunbags;44069384]How about we just make spaceships that move the universe like in Futurama.[/QUOTE]
That's kind of what the alcubierre drive does, but it's technically infeasible and likely impossible.
[QUOTE=Clavus;44060082]It's not a stretch to think that in the end, travelling outside of our solar system might not be even remotely feasible. If we can't find a way to exceed the speed of light without significant downsides, it probably won't be possible to reach other solar systems. Even if you build an arc that travels at sub-FTL speeds, the travelling time is so humongous that even if you put all systems to sleep and humans in cryo-storage, everything would still slowly decay and break down long before you arrive anywhere interesting.[/QUOTE]
designs like the orion drive (or project daedalus) probably make sub light speed space travel much more feasible than you suggest (although an engineering challenge that would require the cooperation of basically everyone), but i agree with the sentiment otherwise.
facepunch's hope for futuristic FTL drives is childish and is an obvious sign of playing too many video games
but sometimes, when i'm in an optimistic mood, i let myself believe in the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bussard_ramjet"]next best thing[/URL]
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;44069940]designs like the orion drive (or project daedalus) probably make sub light speed space travel much more feasible than you suggest (although an engineering challenge that would require the cooperation of basically everyone), but i agree with the sentiment otherwise.
facepunch's hope for futuristic FTL drives is childish and is an obvious sign of playing too many video games
but sometimes, when i'm in an optimistic mood, i let myself believe in the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bussard_ramjet"]next best thing[/URL][/QUOTE]
Basically anything that involves travelling from one solar system to another in a lifetime would be infeasible. Especially if you're aiming for an earthlike planet which probably wouldn't be anywhere near. Establishing a human presence there would still be beneficial, though, if not just for the thrill of it, then for the sake of furthering knowledge, as other solar systems would certainly provide a lot of interesting situations and provide a bigger sandbox for scientists to experiment on.
[QUOTE=_Axel;44070231]Basically anything that involves travelling from one solar system to another in a lifetime would be infeasible. Especially if you're aiming for an earthlike planet which probably wouldn't be anywhere near. Establishing a human presence there would still be beneficial, though, if not just for the thrill of it, then for the sake of furthering knowledge, as other solar systems would certainly provide a lot of interesting situations and provide a bigger sandbox for scientists to experiment on.[/QUOTE]
i imagine that extending human lifetimes is much easier from a resources perspective than faster space travel
[QUOTE=DrDevil;44056438]I'm still not over the cancellation of SGU ;_;[/QUOTE]
Funfact: I absolutely hated SGU. I thought it was a horrendous idea. Then I watched it. Then I couldn't stop watching it. Now I am sad because it was people like me who lead to its demise.
[QUOTE=DrDevil;44056438]I'm still not over the cancellation of SGU ;_;[/QUOTE]
To be honest though, it really wasn't up to par when held against SG-1 and Atlantis.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;44069457]That's kind of what the alcubierre drive does, but it's technically infeasible and likely impossible.[/QUOTE]
People never believed a plane could ever cross the Atlantic, and even if it did it would only be for the rich. Now we have gone above and beyond that, and it goes to show that things change, despite what we believe. I'm optimistic that the alcubierre drive might one day be within our reach, and if not, hopefully something else can be done so we're not limited to very slow space travel and receiving communication years (at the minimum) old from far away space travelling humans. Science is always changing, new laws and theories, hopefully we discover something can be done about ftl travel after all so we're not stuck on our little speck of dust in the universe.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;44069457]That's kind of what the alcubierre drive does, but it's technically infeasible and likely impossible.[/QUOTE]
They said flight was impossible.
[QUOTE=GoldenDargon;44074882]They said flight was impossible.[/QUOTE]
They also said making gold out of base elements was impossible.
You guys don't seem to understand the difference between something that is an engineering challenge vs something that is fundamentally impossible given our current understanding of the universe according to theory and experiment. FTL is the latter.
We need a blackhole drive. Gouge out your eyes while you're at it, you won't need them where we're going
[QUOTE=Falubii;44075638]You guys don't seem to understand the difference between something that is an engineering challenge vs something that is fundamentally impossible given our current understanding of the universe according to theory and experiment. FTL is the latter.[/QUOTE]
There is always the chance/hope that our understanding of the universe is wrong and that some future invention could exploit some as-of-now unknown quirk in the laws of physics.
[QUOTE=Falubii;44075638]You guys don't seem to understand the difference between something that is an engineering challenge vs something that is fundamentally impossible given our current understanding of the universe according to theory and experiment. FTL is the latter.[/QUOTE]
It hasn't been ruled out as a possibility, or else more people would know. The fact that you don't see "FTL disproved" on the news is because scientists aren't sure it's 100% impossible, and neither are you. And you say current understanding, that is always subject to change. Years ago the current understanding of the earth was that it was flat and the universe revolved around it, but advances in technology and science proved otherwise. I don't see why the same can't happen for FTL, science holds many secrets and we're only at the tip of the iceberg.
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