[QUOTE=Amez;39938314]It feels like the war has been going on forever.
Also:
[img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19779215/Photos/Funny/dfadawfqa.jpg[/img]
That's rather odd...[/QUOTE]
inverse kinematics, duh
[QUOTE=LegndNikko;39939723]I hate to seem like the warmonger here, but you have to think why the war started.
I totally get what you're saying that it was a result of the Treaty of Versailles. No ands/ifs about it.
But say we're in that position, before World War II. World War I already happened, and Nazi Germany is rising and looming. If left alone, it'd create mass genocide as you hear reports of abuse and such from the country. What do you do? Do you ignore it, referring to war as a waste? Say diplomatic relations fail, and Germany refuses to stop what it's doing?[/QUOTE]
As if we stop such things today. Do we help the starving in North Korea? Did we stop the Armenian genocide?
No. The war was fought between nations because those nations invaded one another. Yes, the Holocaust was a terrible thing but not the reason the war was fought.
It wasn't even known about until just shortly before the war ended.
[QUOTE=DaysBefore;39939079]But what makes you sure a war would break out in the 1990's? If we're making up scenarios completely out of thin air then what if we devolved into a feudal monarchy between 1939 and 1990? I wouldn't want to live there either.[/QUOTE]
You're missing the point. The point is that World War 2 taught us that nukes are bad and shouldn't be used on other people, even if it seems like a good idea.
If we hadn't learned that, think what would have happened in the above hypothetical situation. America go bye-bye. Russia go bye-bye. China go bye-bye. EVERYTHING YOU EVER KNEW, EVERYONE YOU EVER LOVED GO BYE-BYE.
Sometimes, the best lessons are the hands-on ones.
[QUOTE=Led Zeppelin;39938961]Mission accomplished. What an absolute joke of a proclamation that was.
And yet he still got reelected. Blows my mind[/QUOTE]
I mean, in his defense, the original mission was accomplished, that was to cripple the Iraqi army and oust saddam. We did that pretty well. Too fucking well.
You break it, you buy it.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;39941172]You're missing the point. The point is that World War 2 taught us that nukes are bad and shouldn't be used on other people, even if it seems like a good idea.
If we hadn't learned that, think what would have happened in the above hypothetical situation. America go bye-bye. Russia go bye-bye. China go bye-bye. EVERYTHING YOU EVER KNEW, EVERYONE YOU EVER LOVED GO BYE-BYE.
Sometimes, the best lessons are the hands-on ones.[/QUOTE]
But we only developed nuclear weapons because of WWII. If the was no second World War, or the intense build up prior to it when Hitler began research into weapons-grade uranium, there would be no nuclear "lessons" to learn.
All of these "lessons" only come about because of the war. If the was no second War, there would be no lessons to learn because we would not have developed the weapons. Or, say we had anyway, that in no way means everyone goes nuke-happy because we haven't learnt a "lesson" from the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent Japanese civilians. Even among the members of the Manhattan Project itself, on seeing the first bomb explode, the general consensus was that this should not be used. Many signed a petition to avoid its use. However, they were ignored [I]because[/I] of a war. And Hiroshima and Nagasaki paid the price for our "lesson".
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/53WLbZU.jpg[/IMG]
Wow time flies :v:
[QUOTE=Ericson666;39938460]I can't tell what the hell he's doing, is he trying to curb stomp that [B]cards[/B] table?[/QUOTE]
but they're throwing bones...
[QUOTE=Amez;39938314]It feels like the war has been going on forever.
Also:
[img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19779215/Photos/Funny/dfadawfqa.jpg[/img]
That's rather odd...[/QUOTE]
He's going for a Captain Morgan
These pictures were oddly touching...great insight to what was happening.
Didn't know Saddam was killed in 2006. He was held prisoner for 3 years?
[QUOTE=Amez;39938314]It feels like the war has been going on forever.
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Not surprising given the average age of people on here, pretty much everyone on here has grown up for ~50%+ of their life with either the Iraq war or the Afghanistan war going on.
[QUOTE=Jsm;39956432]Not surprising given the average age of people on here, pretty much everyone on here has grown up for ~50%+ of their life with either the Iraq war or the Afghanistan war going on.[/QUOTE]
I'm 23. War has been going on for a decade. Which means slightly under half.
As for Afghanistan, I've lived more life during that war than at peace with it.
That feels weird.
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