I don't think he is Hitler but he acted like it.
I don't see Putin being that stupid though to push his luck. He's playing a geopolitical game and he seems overall to be pretty good at it. Example are Syria and Ukraine.
He did his 1 off land grab and no one did shit other than say mean words. He knows if he pushed harder and went for eastern Ukraine that'd be a bit much so he's purposely held back feinting the idea that "OH NO IT MIIIGHT HAPPEN THERES RUSSIAN TROOPS ON THE BORDER" but he didn't go through with it.
I don't know if it's actually him making all these decisions or his aids have a part but if it is mostly him he really is a brilliant sociopath chess player.
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;44460940]That joke flew further over your head than a North Korean missile test.[/QUOTE]
Was there an actual joke or is this more of a case of saying something stupid, getting called out on it and trying to save face by saying it was a joke all along?
Because I'm leaning towards the later.
[QUOTE=Aredbomb;44458580]Considering the power Putin has wouldn't it make sense to start invading places with high ethnic Russian populations [I]after[/I] he's done everything he can do to control the internal muslim population?[/QUOTE]
Given Putin's own reasons for "protecting" ethnic Russians, I'm sure he would have no problem with the Middle East stepping in to protect their Muslim population in Russia nor could he argue against its legitimacy.
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;44460940]That joke flew further over your head [b]than a North Korean missile test.[/b][/QUOTE]
So it didn't?
[QUOTE=BCell;44458422]I thought he was Napolean?[/QUOTE]
Um no. Napoleon's use of war to defend and enrich the state of France was anything but unique for his time, except that it was consistently successful. I'd hardly call Napoleon a saint despite what the Frenchies might insist, but he was much more a better man, morally and otherwise, than Putin is.
I'm willing to bet a greater percentage of Americans compare Obama to Hitler than Putin.
[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;44465393]So it didn't?[/QUOTE]
Depends on how good at limbo he is.
[editline]5th April 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Maegord;44462959]Was there an actual joke or is this more of a case of saying something stupid, getting called out on it and trying to save face by saying it was a joke all along?
Because I'm leaning towards the later.[/QUOTE]
I believe you mean the latter, but whatever. If the mention of nations that didn't exist/had no part plus the stupid cat-face emoticon weren't enough to tip you off, then so sorreh massuh, it won't happens again, massuh.
he's a 21st century dictator, like Chavez and Maduro, like Correa, like Evo Morales, like Ahmadinejad, and like basically every other populist democracy in the world at the moment. they get elected into office, often after struggles, revolutions, wars, or anything of the sort and come in, exploiting the people's need through charisma, eventually they build a cult of personality, and then they're able to stay in power for as long as they can, legally even, by silencing their political opponents, having paramilitary/secret police to keep people afraid, adopt economically unsound practices like subsiding nearly every service and product due to most of these countries having a reliable source of income (like oil), and can afford throwing their economic growth away just to appease the poor...by keeping everyone poor.
Russia, Venezuela, Iran, and other countries with the same kind of governments are a demonstration of how democracy can be perverted in order for a tyrant to rule for life, it's the exact same thing that fascist governments once did, but it looks nicer since you're letting the masses vote. the key is the illusion of choice that the voting process provides. the reason why democracy works in the first world is not because the system works but rather because there is a certain respect in the system and its institutions, third world countries do not have these solid institutions that can guarantee clean elections.
[QUOTE=Big Bang;44466380]he's a 21st century dictator, like Chavez and Maduro, like Correa, like Evo Morales, like Ahmadinejad, and like basically every other populist democracy in the world at the moment. they get elected into office, often after struggles, revolutions, wars, or anything of the sort and come in, exploiting the people's need through charisma, eventually they build a cult of personality, and then they're able to stay in power for as long as they can, legally even, by silencing their political opponents, having paramilitary/secret police to keep people afraid, adopt economically unsound practices like subsiding nearly every service and product due to most of these countries having a reliable source of income (like oil), and can afford throwing their economic growth away just to appease the poor...by keeping everyone poor.
Russia, Venezuela, Iran, and other countries with the same kind of governments are a demonstration of how democracy can be perverted in order for a tyrant to rule for life, it's the exact same thing that fascist governments once did, but it looks nicer since you're letting the masses vote. the key is the illusion of choice that the voting process provides. the reason why democracy works in the first world is not because the system works but rather because there is a certain respect in the system and its institutions, third world countries do not have these solid institutions that can guarantee clean elections.[/QUOTE]
Ahmadinejad wasn't really a dictator since he was never the de facto Head of State in Iran.
Putin favours dyadic relationships between nations refusing to acknowgledge EU and Russian media favors anti EU politicians as representatives of Europe due to propaganda reasons. Putin knows that without unification Europe can't effectively stand against Russia's interests and so he seeks to actively weaken and dismantle EU.
He's not really Hitler but he's an ambitious strongman who seeks to make Russia stronk at our expense.
Americans invade Iraq. Supposedly because of terrorists (but secretly because of its natural resources):
- Little support from the locals
- War lasting several years
- Many (civilian) casualties
Verdict: [b]Just bringing them democracy and freedom[/b]
Russians invade Ukraine. Supposedly because of terrorists (but secretly because of its natural resources):
- A lot of support from the locals
- Conflict lasted less than a month
- Not a single shot fired
Verdict: [b]Putin is an aggressive Hitler wannabe who is out to conquer the globe[/b]
[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;44465837]Um no. Napoleon's use of war to defend and enrich the state of France was anything but unique for his time, except that it was consistently successful. I'd hardly call Napoleon a saint despite what the Frenchies might insist, but he was much more a better man, morally and otherwise, than Putin is.[/QUOTE]
Funny that.. given that Russia kicked his ass.
[QUOTE=V12US;44467744]Americans invade Iraq. Supposedly because of terrorists (but secretly because of its natural resources):
- Little support from the locals
- War lasting several years
- Many (civilian) casualties
Verdict: [b]Just bringing them democracy and freedom[/b]
Russians invade Ukraine. Supposedly because of terrorists (but secretly because of its natural resources):
- A lot of support from the locals
- Conflict lasted less than a month
- Not a single shot fired
Verdict: [b]Putin is an aggressive Hitler wannabe who is out to conquer the globe[/b][/QUOTE]
I'm sorry, I missed the part where America annexed Iraq.
[QUOTE=V12US;44467744]Americans invade Iraq. Supposedly because of terrorists (but secretly because of its natural resources):
- Little support from the locals
- War lasting several years
- Many (civilian) casualties
Verdict: [B]Just bringing them democracy and freedom[/B]
Russians invade Ukraine. Supposedly because of terrorists (but secretly because of its natural resources):
- A lot of support from the locals
- Conflict lasted less than a month
- Not a single shot fired
Verdict: [B]Putin is an aggressive Hitler wannabe who is out to conquer the globe[/B][/QUOTE]
Sorry, who here said they thought the US invasion of Iraq was justified again?
[QUOTE=Bradyns;44467777]Funny that.. given that Russia kicked his ass.[/QUOTE]
I won't deny that, but it was sweet revenge for the Russians given that the French repeatedly defeated them in several wars in the last decade and a half, and not necessarily when Napoleon was at the helm or even in power.
[QUOTE=Big Bang;44466380]he's a 21st century dictator, like Chavez and Maduro, like [B]Correa[/B], like Evo Morales, like Ahmadinejad, [/QUOTE]
I dunno he sounds like a chill guy.Last I know Ecuador is quite open to the world.Perhaps I'm wrong though...I don't know much about latin america sadly.
[MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvln3emd4NQ[/MEDIA]
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;44460940]That joke flew further over your head than a North Korean missile test.[/QUOTE]
trying to look like a smart ass and failing, and then making an irrelevant and stupid joke when you got slammed, damn you like like a tool just say you were wrong man
[B]IS PUTIN HITLER?[/B]
____YES/NO_____
[I]130% people answered wrong![/I]
[QUOTE=Charybdis;44459816]Nice try, they're all part of Britain, unless you think Britain and England are synonymous
It's a constituent country of the UK, but you're probably kidding[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't consider Wales a free constituent country considering it's about 1:1 with its parliament and England. It mirrors everything they do.
[QUOTE=W key broke;44473106]trying to look like a smart ass and failing, and then making an irrelevant and stupid joke when you got slammed, damn you like like a tool just say you were wrong man[/QUOTE]
I never said I was right.
[QUOTE=CatFodder;44467823]I'm sorry, I missed the part where America annexed Iraq.[/QUOTE]
In a neocolonialist manner yes. US firms took control of the rebuilding and the economy.
Iraq is now a laissez-faire free market paradise ripe for economical growth oh wait what actually happened was just running the public government into the ground and some outsourced profits.
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