• Lara Croft gets a "realistic" redesign from eating disorder support group
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They're video game characters. It shouldn't be surprising that they are glorified versions of ourselves. If we want to complain about body type, lets make them more athletic looking instead of more fat.
[QUOTE=DoctorSalt;48281090]Many athletes are athletic but not healthy.[/QUOTE] What.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;48281072]I want to see a load of male video game characters redesigned as skinnyfat dudes[/QUOTE] Sorry, guys aren't beautiful at any size so they can't be given the "natural man" treatment.
[QUOTE=DoctorSalt;48281090]Many athletes are athletic but not healthy. I'm seeing a bunch of knee-jerk in this thread - you should all calm down about this. Sure, creative freedom to portray what you want, but that's completely missing the point as some others have said.[/QUOTE] I'm gonna talk out of my ass here, because that's exactly what you're doing too, but I want to say that it's a bit better to be fit and have maybe a slightly unhealthy diet, than to be any kind of overweight. Fit people are more mindful about their entire body, so most are, GASP, more healthy than unfit people. Your post is a pretty silly blanket statement that wants to imply that it's impossible to be fit and attractive and healthy at the same time, which is ridiculous. Organizations like this are fucking dumb. Yeah, encourage people to love their own unfit bodies by trying HARD to make that look like the physiological norm. Great idea. Nobody should need to be motivated to work on themselves, of course not, that's silly.
[QUOTE=DoctorSalt;48281090][B]Many athletes are athletic but not healthy[/B]. I'm seeing a bunch of knee-jerk in this thread - you should all calm down about this. Sure, creative freedom to portray what you want, but that's completely missing the point as some others have said.[/QUOTE] What makes you say that? Other than a few obvious examples of roiders, low bf% marathoners, or getting seriously injured, athletes generally have perfect health and age a lot better than the general population.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;48281119]What.[/QUOTE] He's not totally wrong - it's definitely not healthy to do steroids, or be a cyclist who pumps themselves so full of extra blood their veins get distended, or be a bodybuilder who never does cardio and starves to get rid of all their body fat. Exercise is great for health - high-level competitive athletic sports can be very bad for your health. There's a reason you don't see any 50-year-old NBA players - half of them have fucked up knees.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;48281182]He's not totally wrong - it's definitely not healthy to do steroids, or be a cyclist who pumps themselves so full of extra blood their veins get distended, or be a bodybuilder who never does cardio and starves to get rid of all their body fat. Exercise is great for health - high-level competitive athletic sports can be very bad for your health. There's a reason you don't see any 50-year-old NBA players - half of them have fucked up knees.[/QUOTE] Most roid users are male though, so it's hardly relevant to this article (which neglects to notice all the male characters that look like steroid enhanced ubermensches)
Why'd they even do Cortana. She's a fucking computer.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;48281182]He's not totally wrong - it's definitely not healthy to do steroids, or be a cyclist who pumps themselves so full of extra blood their veins get distended, or be a bodybuilder who never does cardio and starves to get rid of all their body fat. Exercise is great for health - high-level competitive athletic sports can be very bad for your health. There's a reason you don't see any 50-year-old NBA players - half of them have fucked up knees.[/QUOTE] Or... I don't know... it's because sport is very competitive and people in their 20s are younger, stronger and faster and thus perform better. But I'm just guessing here. Also if a bodybuilder would starve himself the body would start to "eat" itself starting with the muscles first. Pros know what they are doing and they ain't starving for sure, their nutrition is simply on a high level of control.
This all boils down to the same old problem that women arent designing video games for women, if you want a more realistic product why not make a better one yourself ? If thinner women in games sells more copies I would use those too, these fat femos should focus their energy on womens magazines and stupid modeling tv programs, or make better games themselves, not try to force the industry to change because they say so.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;48277948]The original Lara Croft probably couldn't do a single pullup, tho. She's not fit, she's just (basic anatomy defying) thin.[/QUOTE] Yeah, a realistic Laura wouldn't be either of those. She'd have a toned physique and abs
Fit women don't exist, remember [editline]24th July 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=RichyZ;48282365]considering the amount of mountain climbing and parkour she does, as well as her inhuman resistance to pain, you'd think she'd have the build of a gow character[/QUOTE] And you don't even need that to be fit Some girls just go to the gym routinely and are fit [editline]24th July 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=FingerSpazem;48282353]Yeah, a realistic Laura wouldn't be either of those. She'd have a toned physique and abs[/QUOTE] That is a good point. Although then again it just brings up the fact that games aren't there to be realistic.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;48281072]I want to see a load of male video game characters redesigned as skinnyfat dudes[/QUOTE] [img_thumb]http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/tekken/images/3/30/Bob-ttt2-art.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130318150822&path-prefix=en[/img_thumb] [img]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/cb/f9/89/cbf9898fb154909f5c413d55ec22587b.jpg[/img] Tekken did it first.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48281102]How are athletes not healthy?![/QUOTE] Pushing your body to its absolute limit on a regular basis isn't particularly conducive to having a fully functioning body later in life. Our joints and organs get worn out just like anything else when you put them under significant stress over a long period of time. Take weightlifters as an example; Not only do they put their muscles, tendons, cartilage and joints under significant load, but the diet they have to maintain is hell on your liver and kidneys on account of all the protein they have to process. A lot of long-distance runners punch out due to heart failure earlier than people who lead active, but not as intense lifestyles.
[QUOTE=Rockeiro123;48279256][t]https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/bulimia.com.assets/superheroes/PowerGirl.png[/t] [t]https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/bulimia.com.assets/superheroes/Ironman.png[/t] [t]https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/bulimia.com.assets/superheroes/CaptainAmerica.png[/t] Lmao, how delusional do you have to be to consider muscular builds and big breasts unrealistic especially on Super heroes.[/QUOTE] this is not so bad, I mean after all it's about making the charcter represent a bigger group of the general population instead of looking like someone who spends 8 hours a day in a gym and it did a pretty good job in that. I think many people miss the point here. Considering the background of superheroes of course it makes sense to make them look like greek statues but the point is that by idolizing these characters you're setting unrealistic role models.
[QUOTE=Killuah;48282501]this is not so bad, I mean after all it's about making the charcter represent a bigger group of the general population instead of looking like someone who spends 8 hours a day in a gym and it did a pretty good job in that. I think many people miss the point here. Considering the background of superheroes of course it makes sense to make them look like greek statues but the point is that by idolizing these characters you're setting unrealistic role models.[/QUOTE] Because superheroes are anything but realistic. They are super and heroes. I would say - aim high. Better have unreachable role models than considering obession the end goal. We should all strive to be beautiful, fit, intelligent and mentally stable. I don't see anything bad about super heroes being cool. Tl;Dr would rather have unrealistically cool role models than average and overweight role models. If you aim high you will reach high, if you aim low you will succumb to comfort and go nowhere
Why has being skinny become shunned while being unhealthy is now socially acceptable. Most the women are trained warriors in a fantasy setting. They don't go for full fat milkshakes and a cheeky ice cream in between slaying Sin
ah yes Cortana is such a sign that Halo has sexualised females [thumb]http://social.bioware.com/uploads_user/1880000/1879525/43620.jpg[/thumb] [thumb]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2081/1578285047_a8492012a4.jpg?v=0[/thumb] [thumb]http://guiltyspark.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/gs_Kat.png[/thumb]
[QUOTE=Killuah;48282501]this is not so bad, I mean after all it's about making the charcter represent a bigger group of the general population instead of looking like someone who spends 8 hours a day in a gym and it did a pretty good job in that. I think many people miss the point here. Considering the background of superheroes of course it makes sense to make them look like greek statues but the point is that by idolizing these characters you're setting unrealistic role models.[/QUOTE] Who on earth considers Superheroes or any video game characters role models
[QUOTE=Velocet;48277838][t]http://www.bulimia.com/wp-content/themes/bulimia-child/assets/images/video-games-realistic/Rikku-Final-Fantasy-X-2.png[/t] This is what a real woman looks like [sp]in America[/sp][/QUOTE] What a world where even making a person look fucking normal is offensive I'm 21 and 120lbs.. Not because of an eating disorder but because of high metabolism. I'm so unrealistic :v: [editline]24th July 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Killuah;48282501]this is not so bad, I mean after all it's about making the charcter represent a bigger group of the general population instead of looking like someone who spends 8 hours a day in a gym and it did a pretty good job in that. I think many people miss the point here. Considering the background of superheroes of course it makes sense to make them look like greek statues but the point is that by idolizing these characters you're setting unrealistic role models.[/QUOTE] So why isn't it okay to have unrealistic role models? Most kids' role models are probably fictional characters
This is like wanting Duke Nukem to be an accurate represention of the average American male lmao
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;48282525]Because superheroes are anything but realistic. They are super and heroes. I would say - aim high. Better have unreachable role models than considering obession the end goal. We should all strive to be beautiful, fit, intelligent and mentally stable. I don't see anything bad about super heroes being cool. Tl;Dr would rather have unrealistically cool role models than average and overweight role models. If you aim high you will reach high, if you aim low you will succumb to comfort and go nowhere[/QUOTE] Of course. Why do you feel the need to explan that Superheroes are not real? The point is that setting goals that unrealistic is not healthy. Striving to be beautiful, fit, intelligent and mentally stable is good. But Superheroes are neither of those. Superpowers are not fitness. Superintelligence is not intelligence. The bodies of superheroes are not healthy.
[QUOTE=Mbbird;48281160]Organizations like this are fucking dumb. Yeah, encourage people to love their own unfit bodies by trying HARD to make that look like the physiological norm. Great idea. Nobody should need to be motivated to work on themselves, of course not, that's silly.[/QUOTE] Do you even have the [i]slightest[/i] idea what bulimia is? Are you [i]really[/i] saying we can't have anyone telling [url=http://www.geronguide.com/gallery/var/albums/Bulimia-Nervosa/bulimia-effect-17.jpg?m=1295183383]this girl[/url] that it's okay to be a normal weight, because she might stop being motivated to 'work on herself'? Fat shaming seems par for the course in SH, but I am amazed that people are so defensive over videogames that they can't handle a bulimia advocacy group using Photoshops to talk about unrealistic body image.
[QUOTE=catbarf;48282848]Do you even have the [i]slightest[/i] idea what bulimia is? Are you [i]really[/i] saying we can't have anyone telling [url=http://www.geronguide.com/gallery/var/albums/Bulimia-Nervosa/bulimia-effect-17.jpg?m=1295183383]this girl[/url] that it's okay to be a normal weight, because she might stop being motivated to 'work on herself'? Fat shaming seems par for the course in SH, but I am amazed that people are so defensive over videogames that they can't handle a bulimia advocacy group using Photoshops to talk about unrealistic body image.[/QUOTE] You've got some odd definitions if medically overweight is considered normal and athletic is considered unrealistic. I maintain that this is fucking dumb though because it's ineffective at actually helping people with eating disorders. People with Bulimia or Body Dysmorphia in general don't perceive their own bodies objectively and no matter how fat you make everyone in the media they will still find fault with themselves. This isn't something that can be solved with media representation, it's something that requires personal support and self-esteem work. This kind of photoshop clickbait just makes people mock the very idea and gives the impression of fatties trying to protect their egos rather than a support organisation.
The worst part of this is in my opinion that these redesigns represent what the average American woman looks like.
[QUOTE=LegndNikko;48277950]I clicked the article, and instead of comparing the thin version (what I'm used to), I covered that up and just looked at their "fixed" versions. Some of them look needlessly overweight. Sonya, Rikku, and Lara come to mind. Others, honestly, look quite normal. Nabooru, Jade, Helena, Cortana, and Tifa. Especially for Tifa, looking at her original after seeing the "fixed" version made her look significantly underweight. For some characters, they have a point. For some, they really don't.[/QUOTE] Honestly I'd say all but the redesigned Tifa looked significantly overweight and that's at least by ten kilos. Sure a lot of the original are unrealistic, but they also manage to look healthier. [QUOTE=catbarf;48282848]Do you even have the [i]slightest[/i] idea what bulimia is? Are you [i]really[/i] saying we can't have anyone telling [url=http://www.geronguide.com/gallery/var/albums/Bulimia-Nervosa/bulimia-effect-17.jpg?m=1295183383]this girl[/url] that it's okay to be a normal weight, because she might stop being motivated to 'work on herself'? Fat shaming seems par for the course in SH, but I am amazed that people are so defensive over videogames that they can't handle a bulimia advocacy group using Photoshops to talk about unrealistic body image.[/QUOTE] The problem is that they went overboard. The bodies they showcase are also unhealthy, but overweight. Which is really concerning considering how young some of the characters showcased are supposed to be.
[QUOTE=Xonax;48277944]Realistic's Definition is "having or showing a sensible and practical idea of what can be achieved or expected" What expected, a practical idea and can be achieved is being Thin, which is the most ideal body you can have. "representing things in a way that is accurate and true to life." Also a definition. Also the irony here, they want more fat characters but it's an eating disorder group.[/QUOTE] don't you know anorexia/bulimia are the only EDs that exist? Overeating is a myth and fat is caused by genetics.
I'm digging these redesigns honestly :v:
[QUOTE=catbarf;48282848]Do you even have the [i]slightest[/i] idea what bulimia is? Are you [i]really[/i] saying we can't have anyone telling [url=http://www.geronguide.com/gallery/var/albums/Bulimia-Nervosa/bulimia-effect-17.jpg?m=1295183383]this girl[/url] that it's okay to be a normal weight, because she might stop being motivated to 'work on herself'? Fat shaming seems par for the course in SH, but I am amazed that people are so defensive over videogames that they can't handle a bulimia advocacy group using Photoshops to talk about unrealistic body image.[/QUOTE] Yep the way to convince people to accept their body is to start changing everyone else. this can't backfire at all. have you guys thought this through lol
This is possibly the least offensive fucking thing I've ever seen on the Internet to try and talk about eating disorders and body image and people are still acting like the artists pissed on their mothers graves or something. If you wanna get pissed about "outrage culture" look in the fucking mirror. holy shit.
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