• Lara Croft gets a "realistic" redesign from eating disorder support group
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[QUOTE=proch;48282680]Who on earth considers Superheroes or any video game characters role models[/QUOTE] The young and incredibly impressionable children, of course. I gotta say it's kind of sad that people are willing to modify or censor art in order to make themselves feel better, even go so far as to lie about themselves. I've seen SO many people with "body type: average" that are clearly over-weight, and embracing their obesity with pictures that say shit like "real women have curves" or "nobody likes to cuddle a stick", which all ironically depict "ideally curvy" women rather than the body-types you typically see on over-weight women (as in their waist-lines are still small, the curves appear to have some sort of invisible support to keep them from appearing flabby, etc).
[QUOTE=Velocet;48277838][t]http://www.bulimia.com/wp-content/themes/bulimia-child/assets/images/video-games-realistic/Rikku-Final-Fantasy-X-2.png[/t] This is what a real woman looks like [sp]in America[/sp][/QUOTE] Someone ate too much... Also, I love how their accurate depiction of women is clearly overweight, or close to it... Guess my current girlfriends body isn't accurate then!
Wait, that's normal? Are all these people I have been hanging out with anorexic? Seriously though, they just made most of these redesigns unattractive as fuck and slightly fat. How is this supposed to get any point across?
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;48282525]Because superheroes are anything but realistic. They are super and heroes. I would say - aim high. Better have unreachable role models than considering obession the end goal. We should all strive to be [B]beautiful[/B], fit, intelligent and [B]mentally stable[/B]. I don't see anything bad about super heroes being cool. Tl;Dr would rather have unrealistically cool role models than average and overweight role models. If you aim high you will reach high, if you aim low you will succumb to comfort and go nowhere[/QUOTE] Err, I can understand that for becoming fit, but for being more attractive? Nobody can change their general appearance without the aid of plastic surgery (which usually ends up in disaster). And since when do people look up to fictional characters for their mental stability?
[QUOTE=AbioFlesh;48283842]Err, I can understand that for becoming fit, but for being more attractive? Nobody can change their general appearance without the aid of plastic surgery (which usually ends up in disaster). And since when do people look up to fictional characters for their mental stability?[/QUOTE] Yeah you can change you appearance. Picking the right clothes, looking after your skin and hair. It's as simple as that, but the effect is huge. Also in general people dont look up to fictional characters. But the author's idea is that they do so lets roll with it. Superheroes are always full of willpower and courage so there is your mental strength and stability.
[QUOTE=Levithan;48277862]Athletic != literally thin as a stick but nah lets continue making fun of a bulimic support group and fat people in general[/QUOTE] None of the video game characters they photoshopped are thin as a stick or unhealthy thin, or bulimic. So hes not wrong that this is fucking hilarious and inane. Cant make fun of a bulimic support group really grasping at straws and making shit examples? Does that somehow mean I mean making fun of bulimic support lol?
[QUOTE=hexpunK;48283312]This is possibly the least offensive fucking thing I've ever seen on the Internet to try and talk about eating disorders and body image and people are still acting like the artists pissed on their mothers graves or something. If you wanna get pissed about "outrage culture" look in the fucking mirror. holy shit.[/QUOTE] God forbid people actually discuss the article. Sometimes I get the feeling you're living in a parallel dimension where everybody on Facepunch looks so fucking pissed that their head is about to blow off.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;48283908]Yeah you can change you appearance. Picking the right clothes, looking after your skin and hair. It's as simple as that, but the effect is huge. Also in general people dont look up to fictional characters. But the author's idea is that they do so lets roll with it. Superheroes are always full of willpower and courage so there is your mental strength and stability.[/QUOTE] That's just basic hygiene. Cleaning myself ain't gonna give me an hourglass figure and big breasts now are they? I'm only referring to the body because we are talking about striving to be like superheroes, and their fashion leaves very little to the imagination. What I mean is, most of the well-known superheroes aren't really that mentally stable or much of a good influence in the first place.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;48283312]This is possibly the least offensive fucking thing I've ever seen on the Internet to try and talk about eating disorders and body image and people are still acting like the artists pissed on their mothers graves or something. If you wanna get pissed about "outrage culture" look in the fucking mirror. holy shit.[/QUOTE] Excuse me while I go and fill out my outrage meter again because its extremely offensive to every woman going through bulimia who doesn't look like that. Or to women in general; fuck sake; half the time it's the fucking clothes not what they look like because they're in proportion to their bodies.
[QUOTE=AbioFlesh;48284095]That's just basic hygiene. Cleaning myself ain't gonna give me an hourglass figure and big breasts now are they? I'm only referring to the body because we are talking about striving to be like superheroes, and their fashion leaves very little to the imagination. What I mean is, most of the well-known superheroes aren't really that mentally stable or much of a good influence in the first place.[/QUOTE] redefining your physique is wicked easy though?
[QUOTE=proch;48282680]Who on earth considers Superheroes or any video game characters role models[/QUOTE] Hypercrisis
[QUOTE=No Party Hats;48284189]redefining your physique is wicked easy though?[/QUOTE] Physique, yes. Everything I mentioned, no. Not everyone can achieve certain looks no matter how fit or unfit they are.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;48278035]And then you take a close look and notice that despite they had a real person, they made the picture quite a bit thinner. [t]http://cdn0.dailydot.com/uploaded/images/original/2013/9/12/gta_v_upton_2.png[/t] This proves their point, if anything. Look at her stomach, look at the curve of her bikini bottom. And even though she's leaning back far more than in the game version, she comes out about as wide. This is exactly what this is about.[/QUOTE] And an iPhone appears in her hand. So unrealistic.
[QUOTE=AbioFlesh;48284220]Physique, yes. Everything I mentioned, no. Not everyone can achieve certain looks no matter how fit or unfit they are.[/QUOTE] You can sort of alter your appearence though, just look at cosplayers. I mean yeah, most of them are gifted with... big boobs and all that, but they use push-up bras and other stuff all the time. [editline]t[/editline] Not saying that everyone should do this, just that it's easier to achieve than most people think.
If anything they should go after Kirby. I mean he throws up his food more than any other game character.
[QUOTE=catbarf;48282848]Do you even have the [i]slightest[/i] idea what bulimia is? Are you [i]really[/i] saying we can't have anyone telling [url=http://www.geronguide.com/gallery/var/albums/Bulimia-Nervosa/bulimia-effect-17.jpg?m=1295183383]this girl[/url] that it's okay to be a normal weight, because she might stop being motivated to 'work on herself'? Fat shaming seems par for the course in SH, but I am amazed that people are so defensive over videogames that they can't handle a bulimia advocacy group using Photoshops to talk about unrealistic body image.[/QUOTE] Is this really the right way to attack bulimia? That girl has an issue with how she sees herself. Overcompensating by editing role models and moving goal posts to "literally overweight" territory is the opposite issue. I'd argue it's even more confusing. I don't know how Bulimia works, but might they find those "normal" girls even less attractive, and be even less sure of what normal is? [editline]24th July 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Killuah;48282501][B]this is not so bad, I mean after all it's about making the charcter represent a bigger group of the general population[/B] instead of looking like someone who spends 8 hours a day in a gym and it did a pretty good job in that. I think many people miss the point here. Considering the background of superheroes of course it makes sense to make them look like greek statues but the point is that by idolizing these characters you're setting unrealistic role models.[/QUOTE] But...why? Is it that hard to believe that books and comics are written about exceptional people? The entire point is that they're not normal, that their mental state enables their physical one, and so on. There's a practical application to having big muscles.
It's like Harrison Bergeron coming to real life. No one is allowed to be better than anyone else because quality is the ultimate goal, no matter what.
[QUOTE=AbioFlesh;48283842]Err, I can understand that for becoming fit, [B]but for being more attractive? Nobody can change their general appearance[/B] without the aid of plastic surgery (which usually ends up in disaster). And since when do people look up to fictional characters for their mental stability?[/QUOTE] Yes they can. Clear skin, healthy hair, good sleep, exercise, and face gains change people.
[QUOTE=Rockeiro123;48279256][t]https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/bulimia.com.assets/superheroes/Ironman.png[/t] [t]https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/bulimia.com.assets/superheroes/CaptainAmerica.png[/t] [/QUOTE] Cap looks fine but Jesus Christ Iron Man looks like a fucking Halloween costume.
I don't know why people are trying to push for fatness being acceptable. Look I'm not one of those fat-shamers but when I see an obese person I think of them similarly to a sick person. Both are really unhealthy for you anyways. Honestly I don't know why being slim is so horrible in these people's eyes. The only thinness that I would classify as bad would be something like malnourishment.
fat-shaming is relatively acceptable, until it turns into abuse. it is almost always completely avoidable unless the person has an eating disorder or some form of real birth defect.
Fat people are humans too and shouldn't be looked down on as inferior beings. It shouldn't automatically be okay to harass and bully someone just because they are fatter than you or somebody else.
[QUOTE=Destroyox;48286109]I don't know why people are trying to push for fatness being acceptable. Look I'm not one of those fat-shamers but when I see an obese person I think of them similarly to a sick person. Both are really unhealthy for you anyways. Honestly I don't know why being slim is so horrible in these people's eyes. The only thinness that I would classify as bad would be something like malnourishment.[/QUOTE] Because it's much easier to delude yourself into thinking you're healthy and there is a medical conspiracy against your strictly-snacks "diet" and rigorous "jerking in bed due to sleep apnea" exercise regimen than actually doing anything about your weight and having some sense of self-control and accountability for one's actions.
[QUOTE=Mbbird;48285363]Yes they can. Clear skin, healthy hair, good sleep, exercise, and face gains change people.[/QUOTE] I addressed this on the fourth post of this page.
[QUOTE=Flumbooze;48282971]The worst part of this is in my opinion that these redesigns represent what the average American woman looks like.[/QUOTE] Some yes, others definitely not
[QUOTE=Lurker;48286547]Fat people are humans too and shouldn't be looked down on as inferior beings. It shouldn't automatically be okay to harass and bully someone just because they are fatter than you or somebody else.[/QUOTE] so as to not repeat, i agree with this guy
Don't disguise "fat acceptance" as "anti eating-disorder". Not a lot pisses me off more than people who co-opt a positive movement to instead represent something overall negative. You don't want to make the effort to be healthy, so instead you decide everyone should be fat along with you, otherwise your precious feelings might get hurt.
[QUOTE=AbioFlesh;48284095]That's just basic hygiene. Cleaning myself ain't gonna give me an hourglass figure and big breasts now are they? I'm only referring to the body because we are talking about striving to be like superheroes, and their fashion leaves very little to the imagination. What I mean is, most of the well-known superheroes aren't really that mentally stable or much of a good influence in the first place.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=AbioFlesh;48286589]I addressed this on the fourth post of this page.[/QUOTE] Working out will give you a figure close to what you want and big breasts are so 1990. You're born with what you get, but humans are by and large very similar to each other and you can make what you get look its best with effort. That's not "basic hygiene" if most of the world doesn't do it.
I think they're ignoring the fact that some people actually exercise and eat a balanced diet? I mean over here in Asia the body size portrayed in videogames is quite common(aside from the oversized breasts, but for a person to expect that in reality is just idk, that person's stupidity not the game's fault). If anything, that body size they're trying to portray seems more common in the US, no offense. Not everyone is chubby. And after all, fictional characters are stylized to give them character lol
[QUOTE=Rainboo;48287339]I think they're ignoring the fact that some people actually exercise and eat a balanced diet? I mean over here in Asia the body size portrayed in videogames is quite common(aside from the oversized breasts, but for a person to expect that in reality is just idk, that person's stupidity not the game's fault). If anything, that body size they're trying to portray seems more common in the US, no offense. Not everyone is chubby. And after all, fictional characters are stylized to give them character lol[/QUOTE] Not to forget that there's a reason they have a story to tell. They can do things.
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