[QUOTE=Warhol;24100638]Your fucking point is all over the place. and you could have fucking sucked it up and moved on and stopped whining.
Well that's one way of admitting you're wrong.
Seriously, are you going to continue to sit here analysing my personality or [B]argue the points[/B] you fucking children[/QUOTE]
I said clear as day that he needs rehab and jail time twice in my first three posts. I also said I don't feel sorry for him because he let himself do this 9 times. How is that all over the place? Suck it up? Since when was defending myself sucking up? You have yet to post a valid reason why I'm a sociopath. Your [I]girlfriend[/I] agrees with me. Is she a sociopath too?
[QUOTE=Warhol;24100638]Your fucking point is all over the place. and you could have fucking sucked it up and moved on and stopped whining.
Well that's one way of admitting you're wrong.
Seriously, are you going to continue to sit here analysing my personality or [B]argue the points[/B] you fucking children[/QUOTE]
I believe OvB had argued with you and won, you were just too dense to comprehend his posts.
You can try to analysis my personality if you'd like, you started a few posts ago.
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[QUOTE=OvB;24100703]Your [I]girlfriend[/I] agrees with me. Is she a sociopath too?[/QUOTE]
:iceburn:
Has everyone just kind of skipped over the fact that he's in jail for a DUI and not being an alcoholic? You shouldn't be punished for having an addiction, but you should for doing something illegal that's a choice. He could have easily stayed at home and drank and no one would have cared, but he had to use terrible judgment and make an awful choice and go out and drive, and get caught doing it 9 times. That is clearly his own fault, and a failure on his part, illness or no illness.
Aside, life is still excessive, and he needs proper rehab. He just also needs to be taken to account for his bad choices.
[QUOTE=Jin;24100714]I believe OvB had argued with you and won, you were just too dense to comprehend his posts.
You can try to analysis my personality if you'd like, you started a few posts ago.
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Warhol is doing something that my father used to say, "If you can't win them with brawn, baffle them with bullshit".
OVB, do we agree the guy needs and needed rehab?
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;24100829]Has everyone just kind of skipped over the fact that he's in jail for a DUI and not being an alcoholic? You shouldn't be punished for having an addiction, but you should for doing something illegal that's a choice. He could have easily stayed at home and drank and no one would have cared, but he had to use terrible judgment and make an awful choice and go out and drive, and get caught doing it 9 times. That is clearly his own fault, and a failure on his part, illness or no illness.
Aside, life is still excessive, and he needs proper rehab. He just also needs to be taken to account for his bad choices.[/QUOTE]
Exactly.
[editline]11:34PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Warhol;24100848]OVB, do we agree the guy needs and needed rehab?[/QUOTE]
Yes, As I said in my 2nd and 3rd post.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;24100837]Warhol is doing something that my father used to say, "If you can't win them with brawn, baffle them with bullshit".[/QUOTE]
Precisely, I need to go heil some Hitlers. I need to fill a quota. :V
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;24100829]Has everyone just kind of skipped over the fact that he's in jail for a DUI and not being an alcoholic? You shouldn't be punished for having an addiction, but you should for doing something illegal that's a choice. He could have easily stayed at home and drank and no one would have cared, but he had to use terrible judgment and make an awful choice and go out and drive, and get caught doing it 9 times. That is clearly his own fault, and a failure on his part, illness or no illness.
Aside, life is still excessive, and he needs proper rehab. He just also needs to be taken to account for his bad choices.[/QUOTE]
Again, you're blaming a guy with a disease for having a disease.
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[QUOTE=OvB;24100863]
Yes, As I said in my 2nd and 3rd post.[/QUOTE]
Ok, we agree, I retract statements that say otherwise. Lets move on.
Jin, shut the fuck up, you're a horrendous poster.
Scorpious... You're always bad at posting and never provide arguments, so nevermind
[QUOTE=Warhol;24100638]Your fucking point is all over the place. and you could have fucking sucked it up and moved on and stopped whining.
Well that's one way of admitting you're wrong.
Seriously, are you going to continue to sit here analysing my personality or [B]argue the points[/B] you fucking children[/QUOTE]
Cover up their sonny. Your superiority complex is showing.
[QUOTE=Warhol;24100899]Again, you're blaming a guy with a disease for having a disease.[/QUOTE]
How is driving while drunk a disease? Driving is not an unavoidable thing, it's not something you can't choose to do. He can't choose to drink, he can choose not to drive, and he should be punished for that choice. He's not drunk in a different way than everyone else, so he should be punished like any one else (or moreso for the 9th time). He needs rehab, but rehab alone wouldn't make up for what he did or fix his judgment.
[QUOTE=Warhol;24100899]Again, you're blaming a guy with a disease for having a disease.[/QUOTE]
Choosing to drive drunk is not a disease. It's a poor decision. I don't care if he abuses alcohol at home. But as soon as someone abuses alcohol while using something that could potentially harm someones life is a different story.
[QUOTE=Warhol;24100899]
Scorpious... You're always bad at posting and never provide arguments, so nevermind[/QUOTE]
I posted my opinion on the first page. Unless I missed it, you never said anything about it.
[QUOTE=Warhol;24100899]
Ok, we agree, I retract statements that say otherwise. Lets move on.
Jin, shut the fuck up, you're a horrendous poster.
Scorpious... You're always bad at posting and never provide arguments, so nevermind[/QUOTE]
Looks like my superiority complex diagnosis proved to be true. Moving on!
[QUOTE=Jin;24100997]Looks like my superiority complex diagnosis proved to be true. Moving on![/QUOTE]
You're blaming a guy with disease for having a disease, he can't help the posts! :downs:
[QUOTE=Warhol;24100899]Again, you're blaming a guy with a disease for having a disease.[/QUOTE]
Actually his post was blaming a guy with a disease for [I]doing[/I] something, not [I]being[/I] something. Being an alcoholic is not against the law, driving while under the influence of said alcohol is.
Whether or not the man was an alcoholic, he still got behind the wheel while intoxicated [I]multiple times[/I], making that choice each time. The courts gave him a slap on the wrist each time, and he continued to commit the crime.
Would the man not have climbed into his vehicle drunk had he taken rehabilitation courses? Nobody can say that for sure.
The central point is that the man knew his behavior was illegal and potentially deadly, yet continued to do it anyways.
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At some point in this man's life, a judge had to notice a fucking pattern here. 9 times? For fuck's sake. This trial must have been that point. I agree, life is a little harsh, but a sentence was definitely needed.
[QUOTE=OvB;24100955]Choosing to drive drunk is not a disease. It's a poor decision. I don't care if he abuses alcohol at home. But as soon as someone abuses alcohol while using something that could potentially harm someones life is a different story.[/QUOTE]
Serious question, Have you ever been drunk?
Yes, it is their decision, but its also an addiction, so the state should order the guy for proper rehab after like the 3rd DUI
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[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;24100964]I posted my opinion on the first page. Unless I missed it, you never said anything about it.[/QUOTE]
so now you're just shit posting.
[QUOTE=Warhol;24100899]Again, you're blaming a guy with a disease for having a disease.
[editline]05:38AM[/editline]
Ok, we agree, I retract statements that say otherwise. Lets move on.
[/QUOTE]
Glad it's settled.
Sup guys I'm going to get addicted to raping sum hoes dawg but the judge cant lock me up fo' life cuz its a disease addiction AW SHIT WHAT THE FUCK UP.
[QUOTE=Warhol;24101030]Serious question, Have you ever been drunk?
Yes, it is their decision, but its also an addiction, so the state should order the guy for proper rehab after like the 3rd DUI
[editline]05:45AM[/editline]
so now you're just shit posting.[/QUOTE]
Yes, they should have, and that's a failing of the system. But this is also a failing of the man himself, and it's something that should be appropriately punished. Not life, but not just rehab
Also: [QUOTE]The central point is that the man knew his behavior was illegal and potentially deadly, yet continued to do it anyways.[/QUOTE]
This is a great point. He wasn't drunk 24/7, and I doubt he was always blackout drunk when he drove, and he had gone to court over this 8 times (while hopefully sober). Somewhere in this non-drunk time, you think he would realize "I'm a major fuckup and this is a huge problem" and either find a way to prevent himself from driving, or get a friend to watch him and keep him from driving. He didn't, and he should be punished for that.
[QUOTE=Warhol;24101030]
so now you're just shit posting.[/QUOTE]
And how is this contributing to this conversation?
Good. He hasn't learned, so lock him up. I'm surprised he hasn't killed anyone.
[QUOTE=Warhol;24101030]Serious question, Have you ever been drunk?
Yes, it is their decision, but its also an addiction, so the state should order the guy for proper rehab after like the 3rd DUI
[/QUOTE]
Everytime I've gotten near to being drunk I've cut myself off. Never been in that situation.
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;24101094]Yes, they should have, and that's a failing of the system. But this is also a failing of the man himself, and it's something that should be appropriately punished. Not life, but not just rehab[/quote]
The man needs punishment, yes, but he also needs Rehab. The system failed is what I'm arguing.
[quote]Also:
This is a great point. He wasn't drunk 24/7, and I doubt he was always blackout drunk when he drove, and he had gone to court over this 8 times (while hopefully sober). Somewhere in this non-drunk time, you think he would realize "I'm a major fuckup and this is a huge problem" and either find a way to prevent himself from driving, or get a friend to watch him and keep him from driving. He didn't, and he should be punished for that.[/QUOTE]
Many, many, many people have issues with fixing the problems they know they have. Not everyone can work on their own.
[QUOTE=Warhol;24101146][B]The man needs punishment, yes,[/B] but he also needs Rehab. The system failed is what I'm arguing.[/QUOTE]
Oh shit, I never would expected to hear those words from you.
[QUOTE=Warhol;24101146]Many, many, many people have issues with fixing the problems they know they have. Not everyone can work on their own.[/QUOTE]
So basically, if a man screws up, it's never his fault, because hey, he's only human and couldn't help himself.
[QUOTE=OvB;24101106]Everytime I've gotten near to being drunk I've cut myself off. Never been in that situation.[/QUOTE]
I have been a quite a few times. When you're drunk, you lose your touch with reality. So being intoxicated, while a dumb decision in this case, the guy had problems determining his reality. So yes, it's totally his fault, but Rehab takes that and tries to fix the beginning problem. Just sending him to prison, only punishes the reaction.
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[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;24101173]Oh shit, I never would expected to hear those words from you.
So basically, if a man screws up, it's never his fault, because hey, he's only human and couldn't help himself.[/QUOTE]
great job, in the same post you quoted me saying OTHERWISE... you claim I say that. lol
[QUOTE=Warhol;24101146]The man needs punishment, yes, but he also needs Rehab. The system failed is what I'm arguing.
Many, many, many people have issues with fixing the problems they know they have. Not everyone can work on their own.[/QUOTE]
Well we agree then, I think it failed as well. Despite living here, I don't have a familiarity with our court and jail system (thankfully), but i've heard nothing but bad things about it. It needs a lot of work and I'm not sure how it'll get it...
And whether he had problems fixing it, or never tried, is all speculation so it doesn't make much of a difference.
[QUOTE=Viephemeral;24101064]Sup guys I'm going to get addicted to raping sum hoes dawg but the judge cant lock me up fo' life cuz its a disease addiction AW SHIT WHAT THE FUCK UP.[/QUOTE]
drunk driving = rape?
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[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;24101203]Well we agree then, I think it failed as well. Despite living here, I don't have a familiarity with our court and jail system (thankfully), but i've heard nothing but bad things about it. It needs a lot of work and I'm not sure how it'll get it...
And whether he had problems fixing it, or never tried, is all speculation so it doesn't make much of a difference.[/QUOTE]
I agree, the guy SHOULD have fixed his problem, but he didn't
so logically, you help him. Which is the purpose OF the state.
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[QUOTE=Jin;24100997]Looks like my superiority complex diagnosis proved to be true. Moving on![/QUOTE]
And you're still a shitty poster.
[QUOTE=Warhol;24101146]The man needs punishment, yes, but he also needs Rehab. The system failed is what I'm arguing.[/QUOTE]
The system didn't fail, you failed. If you get caught with a DUI in Texas, you have to take mandatory alcohol classes. Every time. So what, that's 15+ (court could have fined more for his 3rd and up offenses) years for this loser to fix his habit? Not including his other convictions. Yup, life it is.
[QUOTE=Warhol;24101206]And you're still a shitty poster.[/QUOTE]
And your foul-mouthed insults are prime examples of good posts?
[QUOTE=Jin;24101345]And your foul-mouthed insults are prime examples of good posts?[/QUOTE]
totally not like I made a fucking argument. Pay attention you tool.
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[QUOTE=Ragy;24101247]The system didn't fail, you failed. If you get caught with a DUI in Texas, you have to take mandatory alcohol classes. Every time. So what, that's 15+ (court could have fined more for his 3rd and up offenses) years for this loser to fix his habit? Not including his other convictions. Yup, life it is.[/QUOTE]
The alcohol classes are 32 hours. Rehab is several months.
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