Police mistakenly raid Iraq War Veteran: unload into dog.
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[QUOTE=Ninja Duck;40956925]It was barking in a hostile manner.[/QUOTE]
It must be a terrorist
[QUOTE=Ekalektik_1;40956999]It should be universal that if police fuck up this badly they get (very publicly) stripped of their badge and barred from working in law enforcement. It needs to be both incredibly humiliating and functional in keeping them from ever getting a job like this again. Something like that would keep them in line. It seems strange that we even need to keep the [i]law enforcers[/i] on a short leash, but clearly that's the case.[/QUOTE]
Why would you punish the officers who conducted the raid? They're not the ones that fucked up. The officers who were responsible for gathering information, confirming the address, confirming the necessity of the raid, and signing off on all the legal paperwork involved are the ones 100% to blame.
This kind of thing happens pretty rarely, but when it does heads roll. The thing people don't seem to get is that it's usually not the officers who did the raid themselves who screwed up, so they assume it's going unpunished.
It's so rare that you hear of actual punishment when things like this happened. If a department fucks up like this, and whoever is handling the intel causes the ground team to raid the wrong apartment, things can go so fucking shitty very quickly.
Who knows how an innocent person would react to this. It's a wonder why they never outright lose their jobs for wrongfully endangering the lives of their fellow officers and the innocent(s) within the premises. If they can't even get the apartment right - and cause the death of a dog in the process - how can they be expected to handle their other duties in a proper and not idiotic way?
Everybody makes mistakes, but that's not an excuse that can be hidden behind whenver you fuck up. Intelligence gathering is one of the most important, if not the most important aspects of any department. If they're incapable of deducing that the apartment owned by the Hispanic man, which is also a different apartment entirely from the one owned by the suspected drug dealer, who is black? Welp.
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[QUOTE=Moustacheman;40957400]Cause police back in Australia or across the pond are peachy clean and do nothing wrong, right?
My dad's a bobby in [B]Edinburgh[/B], the amount of corruption they get there disgusts him.[/QUOTE]
Scoooootlaaaaand fooooooreeeeveeeeeeer.
[QUOTE=Moustacheman;40957400]Cause police back in Australia or across the pond are peachy clean and do nothing wrong, right?
My dad's a bobby in Edinburgh, the amount of corruption they get there disgusts him.[/QUOTE]
but he never implied that Australian police were any better? he's just saying that some people in America won't admit that their police forces are fundamentally flawed, and instead defend their policies and protocols when they really shouldn't be
Makes you think how accurate some of the charges for the actual suspect are if they can't even get the correct address.
[QUOTE=Reds;40956746]Well, let's see. The police are responsible for dealing with those who break the law. Then the police break the law. Who the hell is going to deal with them? Nobody. So they get away with it.
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It varies of course, but the police are always going to get away with a staggering amount of bullshit.[/QUOTE]
Now put forth an argument that says that what the police did here violated the law
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[QUOTE=King of Satan;40957009]even it attacked them they would still be in the wrong because they went into the wrong apartment.[/QUOTE]
While exercising a legitimate function of government in good faith. Good luck convicting on that one.
[QUOTE=CheeseMan;40957122]When are American FPers going to admit there's a problem with their police force/s[/QUOTE]
Police forces in all countries have problems. Australia isn't really perfect in this regard.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;40960822]Police forces in all countries have problems. Australia isn't really perfect in this regard.[/QUOTE]
No incorruptible man, no unimpeachable leader...
Oh and they'll get off with a slap on the wrist and get a paid leave saying "just don't do it again"
[QUOTE=CheeseMan;40957122]When are American FPers going to admit there's a problem with their police force/s[/QUOTE]
Because a few police men in a town in New York represent an entire countries police force.
[QUOTE=FreakyMe;40956974]It was giving dehumanizing growls and barks in the officers' general direction.[/QUOTE]
Avatar fits.
[QUOTE=VTG;40961365]Because a few police men in a town in New York represent an entire countries police force.[/QUOTE]
Not saying it does, but what happened in this specific incident seems to be routine for many police forces in the country. Someone I know from Michigan had a police team raid his house, at night, where they shot and killed a Beagle and a fucking [I]Yorkshire Terrier[I][/I][/I] who were chained up and barking. And the kids had to come out and see the entire thing, all so they could arrest his brother for possession of half an ounce of weed.
Also if you were to mistake police breaking into your house in the middle of the night for burglars, and brought even a baseball bat to defend yourself, you'd end up dead for sure.
Completely fucked up that this happened, but it happens more than what makes the news.
[QUOTE=Ekalektik_1;40956999]It should be universal that if police fuck up this badly they get (very publicly) stripped of their badge and barred from working in law enforcement. It needs to be both incredibly humiliating and functional in keeping them from ever getting a job like this again. Something like that would keep them in line. It seems strange that we even need to keep the [i]law enforcers[/i] on a short leash, but clearly that's the case.[/QUOTE]
That's hardly fair on the officers who simply got told to go there and bust it.
They should reprimand the dickheads who make the actual mistakes.
Christ if that shit ever happened to my dog, I don't know what I'd do.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;40961750]That's hardly fair on the officers who simply got told to go there and bust it.
They should reprimand the dickheads who make the actual mistakes.[/QUOTE]
And then due process must be performed and the [I]reason[/I] for the mistake found. That's the difference between a negligence conviction and an 'act of god' as insurance companies would define.
I think that hindsight is 20/20, whoever is responsible for them busting down the wrong house should be fired, but the police officers themselves I can't really give all that much hate, kind of stupid none of them noticed it's the wrong house though.
Pig cops ahoy *snort* *snort* me smell donouts!!!
[QUOTE=Craig Willmore;40956872][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rDOPcCxHOI[/media][/QUOTE]
Somehow I can feel how frustrating it is for the SWAT team to bust down the wrong doors only because they have wrong info. I bet that it's embarrassing as hell too
the death penalty is okay in this situation
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