• BREAKING: Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich resigns amids anti-gay controversy
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[QUOTE=AntonioR;44441995]A person was forced to resign because of his beliefs. You need to be pro-gay to run a company today ?[/QUOTE] You don't need to be "pro-gay" Just "anti-denial-of-basic-human-rights." Seriously, a personal belief that gays are immoral is one thing but actively contributing to programs whose purpose is oppression of a group of people's rights is completely different. Fuck this guy and fuck people who believe that gays don't deserve the same rights as straight people.
[QUOTE=Durrsly;44442102]Eich made JavaScript.[/QUOTE] -Bad reading snip-
[QUOTE=Thom12255;44442073]Gay are not currently given the same legal status and benefits as others in some areas but hardly oppressed.[/QUOTE] Holy fuck are you actually serious right now? [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_LGBT_people[/url]
[QUOTE=paul simon;44442116]So, this "Eich" donated to something 6 years ago..? and that's a bad thing? what's this about? It's still an incredibly vague post.[/QUOTE] Brendan "The focus of this article" Eich. The former CEO of Mozilla.
[QUOTE=HawkeyeTy;44442115]You don't need to be "pro-gay" Just "anti-denial-of-basic-human-rights." Seriously, a personal belief that gays are immoral is one thing but actively contributing to programs whose purpose is oppression of a group of people's rights is completely different. Fuck this guy and fuck people who believe that gays don't deserve the same rights as straight people.[/QUOTE] Marriage isn't a "basic human right".
[QUOTE=Aman;44442135]Marriage isn't a "basic human right".[/QUOTE] Equality is, you fuckwit. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming" - JohnnyMo1))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=AntonioR;44441995]A person was forced to resign because of his beliefs. You need to be pro-gay to run a company today ?[/QUOTE] His rights ends where others begins.
[QUOTE=Aman;44442135]Marriage isn't a "basic human right".[/QUOTE] Well, I disagree, and so do a lot of other people. Maybe not a christian marriage, but then again everyone here knows that's not what the implication of the word marriage in the US is anyway. You can try to split hairs there all you want, but gays do have the right to be legally married. There should be no crossover between government and religion, so if the basis of that argument is religious, just can it now.
how do people find bigotry acceptable under the pretense of "beliefs"
[QUOTE=toaster468;44442030]liberals only like free speech when it supports their agenda.[/QUOTE] liberals are evil for being so oppressive as to call him out on things he does with his money as a huge corporate CEO, it is his freedom of speech to give money to a political movement that actively oppresses, demoralizes and dehumanizes people for being themselves on no grounds other than it hurting my religious feelings :'(
[QUOTE=Durrsly;44442130]Brendan "The focus of this article" Eich.[/QUOTE] Right. So what's the dealio about him donating something?
[QUOTE=toaster468;44442059]Software organizations don't need to take a stance on gay marriage at all.[/QUOTE] and yet the ceo did
I am not sure his position on gay rights should influence his work position in any way. Even if he did contribute to certain programs, what does it have to do with his employment? Is it illegal to give money to organisations now? Then again, a company should be able to decide if it wants to have one person or another as their CEO, so that's too not entirely unreasonable and outlandish. I dunno, honestly.
[QUOTE=Thom12255;44442073]Gay are not currently given the same legal status and benefits as others in some areas but hardly oppressed.[/QUOTE] your anecdote is not accurate to reality
[QUOTE=frozensoda;44442156]Well, I disagree, and so do a lot of other people. Maybe not a christian marriage, but then again everyone here knows that's not what the implication of the word marriage in the US is anyway. You can try to split hairs there all you want, but gays do have the right to be legally married. There should be no crossover between government and religion, so if the basis of that argument is religious, just can it now.[/QUOTE] Oh I agree, I am pro gay marriage don't get me wrong I really don't care if they get married and they should be able to. Just annoys me when people like to blow things out of proportion.
[QUOTE=Aman;44442135]Marriage isn't a "basic human right".[/QUOTE] When you grow up, I hope you learn how many bonuses you get when you get married, like being able to see your loved one in the fucking ER for example.
it's not like he supported total genocide of the lgbt community or something if you're so progressive and tolerant, why don't you look past the man's opinions? i don't care if he thinks gay marriage is wrong and i wouldn't care if he thought it was right
[QUOTE=dai;44442168]liberals are evil for being so oppressive, it is my freedom of speech to give money to a political movement that actively oppresses, demoralizes and dehumanizes people for being themselves on no grounds other than it hurting my religious feelings :'([/QUOTE] Whoa calm down. I was stating the obvious. No group likes opposition to their ideas regardless of their stance.
[QUOTE=Thom12255;44442073]Gay are not currently given the same legal status and benefits as others in some areas but hardly oppressed.[/QUOTE] You're British, if FlagDog is correct. Views on queers in the USA are different.
[QUOTE=paul simon;44442116]So, this "Eich" donated to something 6 years ago..? and that's a bad thing? what's this about? It's still an incredibly vague post.[/QUOTE] Are you trying to stir up shit?
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[QUOTE=paul simon;44442171]Right. So what's the dealio about him donating something?[/QUOTE] I assume you haven't heard. Eich donated towards passing Proposition 8, which would ban gay marriage.
[QUOTE=gokiyono;44442205]Are you trying to stir up shit?[/QUOTE] No, I'm asking a question. How do you get that confused? [QUOTE=Durrsly;44442222]I assume you haven't heard. Eich donated towards passing Proposition 8, which would ban gay marriage.[/QUOTE] Oh right. I remember this being in the news section a while ago. I somehow failed to read more than his first name in the article.
[QUOTE=paul simon;44442171]Right. So what's the dealio about him donating something?[/QUOTE] Him donating in support of proposition 8, that's really what's this is all about.
[QUOTE=Aman;44442183]Oh I agree, I am pro gay marriage don't get me wrong I really don't care if they get married and they should be able to. Just annoys me when people like to blow things out of proportion.[/QUOTE] Marriage is more than just a piece of paper in the US it comes with a long list of benefits(and some detriments) including but not limited to being able to make medical decisions for the person you love who has told you what they want to be done. Not to mention all the financial benefits of being married, and attitudes like yours even if they aren't directly harmful, do marginalize the issue.
[QUOTE=Durrsly;44442027]He was forced to resign because he worked towards infringing people's rights.[/QUOTE] he donated a thousand dollars to an organisation that opposed gay marriage. six years ago if he was secretly smuggling money towards groups which beat up gay people and publicly announcing his views then i could see your point
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;44441931]Wow. Two weeks of pressure and he quit? Does anyone else find that super strange? I'm sure there was a fair bit of pressure over his actions but I'm just finding him actually resigning over it really strange.[/QUOTE] Didn't the developers also start boycotting too though?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;44442254]he donated a thousand dollars to an organisation that opposed gay marriage. six years ago if he was secretly smuggling money towards groups which beat up gay people and publicly announcing his views then i could see your point[/QUOTE] Your argument is invalid for the following reasons: 1. It doesn't matter how long it's been 2. His peers are the ones who mounted the pressure to force him out. This is exactly how our system is supposed to work. don't get me wrong here, if the government had forced him out I would be right along with half this thread saying this is ridiculous, but that's not the case.
[QUOTE=AntonioR;44441995]A person was forced to resign because of his beliefs. You need to be pro-gay to run a company today ?[/QUOTE] If you ask me, his political motifs and anti-gay position has little to do with his position at work if he's able to treat any homosexual co-workers just the same as heterosexuals. However, CEO being more of a public spokesman for the company I guess you'd want someone as neutral as possible. Idk.
[QUOTE=MaikkiBoi;44442198]it's not like he supported total genocide of the lgbt community or something if you're so progressive and tolerant, why don't you look past the man's opinions? i don't care if he thinks gay marriage is wrong and i wouldn't care if he thought it was right[/QUOTE] because bigots are totally a minority that has endured persecution throughout the modern world for decades. you don't tolerate or accpet their opinions, you educate them on why their opinions hurt others.
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