• BREAKING: Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich resigns amids anti-gay controversy
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[QUOTE=Thom12255;44442073]Gay are not currently given the same legal status and benefits as others in some areas but hardly oppressed.[/QUOTE] uganda [editline]3rd April 2014[/editline] i would name the other 100 or so countries that treat gay people like shit but i don't want to flood the entire thread
[QUOTE=Aman;44442871]Yes I'm evil, I'm a child, bla bla etc. All I'm saying is marriage isn't a right for anyone regardless of sexuality.[/QUOTE] [url]https://www.afer.org/blog/14-supreme-court-cases-marriage-is-a-fundamental-right/[/url] Stop being a pedant.
[QUOTE=Aman;44442871]Yes I'm evil, I'm a child, bla bla etc. All I'm saying is marriage isn't a right for anyone regardless of sexuality.[/QUOTE] so no one has a right to be able to ensure their medical decisions are made by someone they trust whilst their incapable of it? or that on death assets are transferred to their loved ones? those seem like pretty normal things to qualify as right.
[QUOTE=MaikkiBoi;44442198]it's not like he supported total genocide of the lgbt community or something if you're so progressive and tolerant, why don't you look past the man's opinions? i don't care if he thinks gay marriage is wrong and i wouldn't care if he thought it was right[/QUOTE] Having a thought is something else than trying to force the his worldview onto others. Financially supporting an anti-LGBT lobby group means directly forcing his worldview onto others.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;44443026]Having a thought is something else than trying to force the his worldview onto others. Financially supporting an anti-LGBT lobby group means directly forcing his worldview onto others.[/QUOTE] For me, it's not even that. He can do that all he likes, but then don't fucking complain when your opposition reacts to it. It's like they are saying that forcing your world view on someone else is ok as long as it works out in their favor, otherwise it's just a bunch of uppity faggots forcing a good man out of his job. [highlight](User was banned for this post (""uppity faggots"" - GunFox))[/highlight] Alternatively: IMO he can financially support hate groups all he wants, but he should not be surprised when the people who are being hated by those groups respond by boycotting the company he is CEO of. It seems to me like this CEOs supporters are saying that what he was doing by financially supporting a hate group was just free speech, but when the LGBT community comes together and boycotts the company he is CEO of they are just being "ridiculous" and are "over-reacting"(aka the two words I was banned for)
[QUOTE=toaster468;44442587]That's odd there was no real vote for this, I may have missed that bit. I highly doubt that a majority of the people in the company voted to make him step down (more likely an extremely vocal minority). Seeing as how the people who don't really give a shit (aka the majority) didn't go on this massive moral crusade around the internet to keep him as CEO.[/QUOTE] mozilla was pro-gay before this ceo joined in, and hundreds of developers were protesting him being the CEO. and lmao, you're really out of your mind if you think "the majority~~~~" don't give a shit about basic human rights.
[QUOTE=frozensoda;44443097]For me, it's not even that. He can do that all he likes, but then don't fucking complain when your opposition reacts to it. It's they are saying that forcing your world view on someone else is ok as long as it works out in their favor, otherwise it's just a bunch of uppity faggots forcing a good man out of his job.[/QUOTE] Are you for real?
[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;44443127]Are you for real?[/QUOTE] well I did forget to type the word "like" which is a pretty big part of that sentence, but otherwise yes. go back and read this thread and the other one. Half these people's argument boils down to "they're gay, it's not a big deal"
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;44443122] and hundreds of developers were protesting him being the CEO. [/QUOTE] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed"] Citation Needed[/URL]
and lmao to everyone who says "marriage doesn't matter" you [I]do[/I] know how many rights and benefits you get when you're a married couple, right? also, having some "equivalent" like a ~civil partnership~ or whatever the fuck isn't the same. give them the exact same thing that straight people get or just fuck off. separate but equal has been proven to never work.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;44443168]and lmao to everyone who says "marriage doesn't matter" you [I]do[/I] know how many rights and benefits you get when you're a married couple, right? also, having some "equivalent" like a ~civil partnership~ or whatever the fuck isn't the same. give them the exact same thing that straight people get or just fuck off. separate but equal has been proven to never work.[/QUOTE] I'd rather just have them dissolve the relationship between christian marriage and our government, and give everyone a civil union regardless of their religion. Nothing would change except the title of the document, and that way it's not "christian" thing which is what a huge number of people use to call this wrong.
[QUOTE=Sally;44443159][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed"] Citation Needed[/URL][/QUOTE] [url]http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2014/04/03/3422750/mozilla-ceo-steps-down-after-backlash/[/url] [quote]Since his March 25 appointment, the Internet company has faced a number of boycotts and protests. Earlier this week, OKCupid hurdled access to its site in the Firefox browser, urging users to choose another browser and not support Mozilla products. Rarebit app developer, Hampton Catlin pulled his projects from Mozilla sparking a public outcry for Eich’s resignation. Three of Mozilla’s board executives have also stepped down in the two weeks Eich has been CEO.[/quote] okcupid is the most notable developer group to step up, there was a thread about that a few days ago. [editline]3rd April 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=frozensoda;44443193]I'd rather just have them dissolve the relationship between christian marriage and our government, and give everyone a civil union regardless of their religion. Nothing would change except the title of the document, and that way it's not "christian" thing which is what a huge number of people use to call this wrong.[/QUOTE] yeah, that would be the best but nobody's going to do that. might as well just give non-straight couples the same thing instead of dealing with the thousands of people that would cry about being called "something else" instead of "married."
This is wrong, what he donated to never even passed. This is pretty much a witch hunt. Now bring on the "omg how can you support a bigot what do you hate gays" and dumbs. Better stick to your guns and stop using javascript too.
[QUOTE=frozensoda;44443149]well I did forget to type the word "like" which is a pretty big part of that sentence, but otherwise yes. go back and read this thread and the other one. Half these people's argument boils down to "they're gay, it's not a big deal"[/QUOTE] It's more that you called him a good man, which is obviously not the case.
[QUOTE=Comcastic;44443220]This is wrong, what he donated to never even passed. This is pretty much a witch hunt. Now bring on the "omg how can you support a bigit what do you hate gays" and dumbs. Better stick to your guns and stop using javascript too.[/QUOTE] There's a difference between a witch-hunt and people using their democratically given powers to protest a bigoted CEO. He didn't even have to quit, but apparently the outcry was sufficient to make him realize that he is the head of the wrong company.
[QUOTE=Comcastic;44443220][B]This is wrong, what he donated to never even passed. This is pretty much a witch hunt.[/B] Now bring on the "omg how can you support a bigit what do you hate gays" and dumbs. Better stick to your guns and stop using javascript too.[/QUOTE] so the fact it didn't pass negates the intent? well yeah officer, I DID shoot at the guy, but the bullet missed. No harm no foul
[QUOTE=AntonioR;44441995]A person was forced to resign because of his beliefs. You need to be pro-gay to run a company today ?[/QUOTE] Yes. Being an asshole is indeed grounds to fire people.
[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;44443235]It's more that you called him a good man, which is obviously not the case.[/QUOTE] Ah I see what the problem here is. No I was saying that's how the other people in this thread are acting. Like him donating money to stop LGBT marriage is OK but then the reaction to it is not. Sorry for the confusion.
Oh okay, that makes more sense.
[QUOTE=Comcastic;44443220]This is wrong, what he donated to never even passed. This is pretty much a witch hunt. Now bring on the "omg how can you support a bigot what do you hate gays" and dumbs. Better stick to your guns and stop using javascript too.[/QUOTE] it's more because mozilla is a prolgbt organization?????
[QUOTE=Comcastic;44443220]This is wrong, what he donated to never even passed. This is pretty much a witch hunt. Now bring on the "omg how can you support a bigot what do you hate gays" and dumbs. Better stick to your guns and stop using javascript too.[/QUOTE] But people have pointed out that it DID initially pass? And that's fairly irrelevant anyways. He showed intent for it to pass thus limiting the rights of others simply because he does not like them.
[QUOTE=toaster468;44442733]Also keep in mind, no where in this thread did I take a political position. So I don't know why people in this thread are trying to group me in with other people.[/QUOTE] I know this is from last page, but uh [QUOTE=toaster468;44442030]liberals only like free speech when it supports their agenda.[/QUOTE] maybe I'm a weird dumb baby but that seems like a political position to me
[QUOTE=GunFox;44443249]Yes. Being an asshole is indeed grounds to fire people.[/QUOTE] That's his personal life. If he does his jobs well, what matter his beliefs? Is he making Mozilla products less "Gay-Friendly"? Is he firing gay workers or imposing gay taxes on his products?
[QUOTE=Comcastic;44443220]This is wrong, what he donated to never even passed. This is pretty much a witch hunt. Now bring on the "omg how can you support a bigot what do you hate gays" and dumbs. Better stick to your guns and stop using javascript too.[/QUOTE] Hey man if you aren't a bigot why does it just so happen that you are [I]always[/I] on their side in every thread like this trying to justify and rationalize every fucked up thing they do? Comcastic you legitimately are a bigot with a persecution complex which is pretty much the worst kind of person. If you are so fucking sensitive about being called out for the fact that you defend assholes then maybe you stop posting in these threads in the future.
You can be anti-gay, but if you are running an entire world-wide company, actively promoting anti-gay is a really bad idea. I mean, I think everything would have been fine if he said "I hate gays, but if you want it that way, then screw you and do whatever you want"
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;44443376]That's his personal life. If he does his jobs well, what matter his beliefs? Is he making Mozilla products less "Gay-Friendly"? Is he firing gay workers or imposing gay taxes on his products?[/QUOTE] His job is to sell his product. Which he can't do as well now that people know how much of a douche he is. Kinda like how being a known member of the KKK might impede your job in the customer service industry even if you don't say anything about it.
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;44443376]That's his personal life. If he does his jobs well, what matter his beliefs? Is he making Mozilla products less "Gay-Friendly"? Is he firing gay workers or imposing gay taxes on his products?[/QUOTE] And we go full circle. He is the figurehead and leader of the company, if his personal beliefs are detrimental to the company, he will do what is the best for it and resign, rather than damage the company his is supposed to lead. The people developing the products started a protest against him for his beliefs, and it spread from there. He is doing his job well by resigning, as his presence at the company is now detrimental to it.
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;44443376]That's his personal life. If he does his jobs well, what matter his beliefs? Is he making Mozilla products less "Gay-Friendly"? Is he firing gay workers or imposing gay taxes on his products?[/QUOTE] He's a homophobe who donated $1k to an anti-gay marriage bill who worked as the CEO for a pro-LGBT company. His views contradict that of the company he worked for, and developers for the platform he was the head of said "we don't want him in power", so he left power. His opinions [i]do[/i] matter, and no amount of "oh it happened years ago" or "he wasn't firing gays, what's the problem?" will change that.
[QUOTE=GunFox;44443422]His job is to sell his product. Which he can't do as well now that people know how much of a douche he is. Kinda like how being a known member of the KKK might impede your job in the customer service industry even if you don't say anything about it.[/QUOTE] Then I hope you stopped buying from companies that supported Nazis. And from Walt Disney.
[QUOTE=dai;44443248]so the fact it didn't pass negates the intent? well yeah officer, I DID shoot at the guy, but the bullet missed. No harm no foul[/QUOTE] way to compare attempted murder to donating to something he believes in.
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