Take Two has shut down alternate GTA V multiplayer client and is suing the developers.
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[QUOTE=Cheremenin;49296937]sigh
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/xFt8iee.png[/IMG]
There goes my hope.[/QUOTE]
They already have your money
[QUOTE=FingerSpazem;49297261]
What cars are you driving in V and is there a secret car in LA Noire that drives ultra smooth or something?[/QUOTE]
Frankly, all of them. LA Noire and GTA V both have horribly stiff suspension systems, even on older cars. The only one I think was somewhat accurate was the Station Wagon. The grip is the only difference I can discern between the two, LA Noire being horrendously sticky and GTA V being less so, but both have serious issues.
As far as damage models go, cars seem to smash up harder in GTA IV than in V. This can be a good thing, or a bad thing, depending on the playstyle.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;49296979]Why do all the best games have the worst publishers[/QUOTE]
Perhaps the worst publishers are the ones with with the greediest moneyhoarding dickbags;
thus having enough money to fund grand projects.
[QUOTE=darth-veger;49296952]Unless you never play the game anyway.
It would actually be really fucking stupid for people to uninstall/remove their game just because Take Two ruined it for some, Rockstar poured literally millions of dollars into this and you can see in the game that they also spent a huge amount of time and love to crafting this wonderful game plus they are still releasing new multiplayer content on a regular basis.
Uninstalling the game or asking for refunds is not going to help. Emailing take-two would be the best course of action or more publicity to what they have done.[/QUOTE]
It would be great to start a campaign on spreading information on how horrible Take Two is and how horribly they treat their fans, not to mention their nearsightedness in business.
[QUOTE=Sunday_Roast;49297414]It would be great to start a campaign on spreading information on how horrible Take Two is and how horribly they treat their fans, not to mention their nearsightedness in business.[/QUOTE]
Breaking: Dozens sued for libel in a sweeping Take Two lawsuit bonanza
I can't help but laugh at all the people who are angrily letting us all know how they're uninstalling the game or asking for a refund when they know well and clear they will never get the money they paid for the game back. Stop acting like clowns.
[QUOTE=Kebab;49297538]I can't help but laugh at all the people who are angrily letting us all know how they're uninstalling the game or asking for a refund when they know well and clear they will never get the money they paid for the game back. Stop acting like clowns.[/QUOTE]
I'll have you know I have sternly [B]closed[/B] the game and will [B]never[/B] play it again for the rest of [B]tonight.[/B]
I really wanted XCOM 2... but I think I can just skip it now.
Any future modders should take greater lengths to disconnect their real identity from their modding one
New accounts with false info for anything related to promoting/discussing the mod
Only use accounts to post content and promote mod from public or unsecured networks
Do not promote or discuss mod with any account that can be traced back to you
Enforce this strictly with other team members, thoroughly vet any one wanting to join the team both for quality purposes and to ensure they are not T2/hired PIs attempting to infiltrate
Looks like GTA5 is the only game where one needs to take government whistleblower level precautions just to mod it without T2 shoving their legal cock down your throat.
GTA:O is great even with the hackers, but that's just me
but this, now THIS is anti-consumer as shit
[editline]12th December 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Kebab;49297538]I can't help but laugh at all the people who are angrily letting us all know how they're uninstalling the game or asking for a refund when they know well and clear they will never get the money they paid for the game back. Stop acting like clowns.[/QUOTE]
those people are being especially shitty when you look at the fact that T2 didn't make GTA5, they just control publishing
[QUOTE=Kuro.;49298526]Any future modders should take greater lengths to disconnect their real identity from their modding one
New accounts with false info for anything related to promoting/discussing the mod
Only use accounts to post content and promote mod from public or unsecured networks
Do not promote or discuss mod with any account that can be traced back to you
Enforce this strictly with other team members, thoroughly vet any one wanting to join the team both for quality purposes and to ensure they are not T2/hired PIs attempting to infiltrate
Looks like GTA5 is the only game where one needs to take government whistleblower level precautions just to mod it without T2 shoving their legal cock down your throat.[/QUOTE]
The funny thing is you don't hear this happening with the things that make the game less enjoyable for other people. (The trainers that are made for the purpose of ruining another persons day)
I can't believe how obvious it is that GTA5 is the work of an amazing dev team that is dedicated to their studio
or at least, that's what I SEE when I look at a GTA game, a game made by people that like their job
there is so much amazing shit in GTA it's not even funny
I'm not trying to brown nose, though, the game has its issues but they aren't truly rockstars fault, at least not the REALLY big issues.
Same shit happens with many EA published games.
[QUOTE=J!NX;49298595]GTA:O would have been perfect if rockstar knew what the hell they were doing with online, but they just sort of, threw money at a computer and expected it to do the work for them, much like wishing for something to simply function[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kuro.;49298526]Any future modders should take greater lengths to disconnect their real identity from their modding one
New accounts with false info for anything related to promoting/discussing the mod
Only use accounts to post content and promote mod from public or unsecured networks
Do not promote or discuss mod with any account that can be traced back to you
Enforce this strictly with other team members, thoroughly vet any one wanting to join the team both for quality purposes and to ensure they are not T2/hired PIs attempting to infiltrate[/QUOTE]
They should have been doing that already since most game's state in the ELUA / TOS that it is illegal to mod them. Plus T2's history with modding, I believe they were against it since the beginning. Every game from them has been difficult to mod and that was likely on purpose to discourage it. It doesn't help that modding 'caused a huge loss of profit due to the Hot Coffee mod, which forced the publisher to recall all copies and ship new ones.
[editline]11th December 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=FlakTheMighty;49298544]The funny thing is you don't hear this happening with the things that make the game less enjoyable for other people. (The trainers that are made for the purpose of ruining another persons day)[/QUOTE]
This is what bothers me the most about the situation though. If there's anybody they should be after, it's the people [I]actually causing damage to their profits[/I]. Not some dude making a shallow multiplayer mod that the same hackers would probably migrate to anyway.
I hope that theses developers accidentally post the source code for their mod, because i think a lot of other people would take up the torch then.
Are T2 still using the "mod could be used to advocate piracy" defense or have they admitted that they are afraid that this would render Shark Cards moot?
And money hackers are a thing and not handled despite hurting "the economy"? Seems like the fact that I can't run GTA5 is a blessing in disguise.
I sure hope that if this goes to court they realize that there apparently was no ill intent from the modders and that this was all in the name of getting people to plunk more money on a game they already bought. Because T2 may be a business and businesses may need to make a profit to go on, but there is a fine line between a profit and milking customers.
I don't understand why everyone is acting so surprised by this, you got the game you paid for, of course they're going to shut down a private server, GTA:O makes them money and they're a business.
Good going, Take Two. I [i]was[/i] gonna buy GTA V PC here soon, after buying it on PS3, for near-as-makes-no-difference full price. Now? Maybe in the five dollar bin. Fuck off you cuntwaffles, the entire reason I was rebuying it was for modding. I don't care one bit about multiplayer, the mods I'm interested in are mostly car mods, but if this is how you treat modders that do multiplayer shit I don't want anything to do with your damn game.
[QUOTE=Minimal;49296156][video=youtube;v2j5fiApu9w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2j5fiApu9w[/video]
this looks fun as fuck why tthe hell take something like this away[/QUOTE]
Because you don't need shark cards for it. Simple as that.
[editline]12th December 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=layla;49298709]I don't understand why everyone is acting so surprised by this, you got the game you paid for, of course they're going to shut down a private server, GTA:O makes them money and they're a business.[/QUOTE]
Anger and surprise are different things. We're not shocked, we're pissed off. SA-MP, a mutiplayer mod for San Andreas, is the whole reason we even have GTA:O to begin with. Before SA-MP took off R* had no interest in multiplayer, but after seeing how ridiculously popular it got...even today it has a healthy playerbase so long as you don't mind seeing cyka blyat in the chat every few seconds...they decided to add it in. IV's failed, V's seems to be juuust good enough to get people buying sharkcards, and that's enough for T2 to act like dicks.
Yeah I'm not going to buy any future GTA games unless it has drifting, unacceptable.
[QUOTE=Kuro.;49298526]Any future modders should take greater lengths to disconnect their real identity from their modding one
New accounts with false info for anything related to promoting/discussing the mod
Only use accounts to post content and promote mod from public or unsecured networks
Do not promote or discuss mod with any account that can be traced back to you
Enforce this strictly with other team members, thoroughly vet any one wanting to join the team both for quality purposes and to ensure they are not T2/hired PIs attempting to infiltrate
Looks like GTA5 is the only game where one needs to take government whistleblower level precautions just to mod it without T2 shoving their legal cock down your throat.[/QUOTE]That's why I don't link to any of my shit that I've modded, not even Bethesda games and the modding community is basically part of Bethesda's dev cycle at this point. Yeah it might seem a little paranoid, but I just don't trust that a publisher won't one day get possessed by an evil spirit and try to have me raped in the court system.
Actually this screen name is very, very disconnected from everything else I do out of principle. Just keeping up that habit to keep me secure.
[QUOTE=darth-veger;49296952]
Uninstalling the game or asking for refunds is not going to help. Emailing take-two would be the best course of action or more publicity to what they have done.[/QUOTE]
All that matters is the bottom line. Uninstalling does nothing but taking a refund afte a bad policy like this is fair.
However, if you've played hundreds of hours its a bit unfair.
[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;49298792]That's why I don't link to any of my shit that I've modded, not even Bethesda games and the modding community is basically part of Bethesda's dev cycle at this point. Yeah it might seem a little paranoid, but I just don't trust that a publisher won't one day get possessed by an evil spirit and try to have me raped in the court system.
Actually this screen name is very, very disconnected from everything else I do out of principle. Just keeping up that habit to keep me secure.[/QUOTE]
Eventually something you post will link back to you, its surprising how quickly a PI can actually find you with the right resources.
Should i mention that you can download the source for fivem and still host stuff? and also code for them to help them through this if you choose to, they can't take millions of people to court. (The fivem licensing is MIT so you can modify it without any copyright or anything like that from taking hold of you, so yea. Have fun)
[QUOTE=layla;49298770]Yeah I'm not going to buy any future GTA games unless it has drifting, unacceptable.[/QUOTE]
It's not just 'drifting'
It's majorly the ability to create custom maps and multiplayer gamemodes to have an experience other than what Rockstar wants to give us.
Regarding the IRC thing, the clear was because it was a shitstorm, and only happened on #fourdeltaone (special people even get access to it), #fivem can still be accessed.
Greedy pieces of shit, I hope they'll go bankrupt and Rockstar find a better publisher.
[QUOTE=Incoming.;49298813]Eventually something you post will link back to you, its surprising how quickly a PI can actually find you with the right resources.[/QUOTE]Uh, I don't understand how they could do that because all of that stuff is airgapped from everything else. (programming, modding, etc is not done on this crappy laptop, that's for sure)
[QUOTE=ChloeBlackSythe;49298850]Should i mention that you can download the source for fivem and still host stuff? and also code for them to help them through this if you choose to, they can't take millions of people to court. (The fivem licensing is MIT so you can modify it without any copyright or anything like that from taking hold of you, so yea. Have fun)[/QUOTE]
It's a bad idea to continue the project if people are getting sued, I think. It's a really awful situation, especially since R* was pretty open to mods before launch. :disgust:
[QUOTE=Agoat;49299550]It's a bad idea to continue the project if people are getting sued, I think. It's a really awful situation, especially since R* was pretty open to mods before launch. :disgust:[/QUOTE]
Pretend, We don't know what they said about mods? Because i don't.
[QUOTE=layla;49298770]Yeah I'm not going to buy any future GTA games unless it has drifting, unacceptable.[/QUOTE]
ur shitting me right? so garry should shutdown darkrp servers because they are not sandbox??
and this isn't some private server, its a community and take2 went to the next step to sue the owners of a community wich members supported modding and no longer support take2 lol
[editline]12th December 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=layla;49298709]I don't understand why everyone is acting so surprised by this, you got the game you paid for, of course they're going to shut down a private server, GTA:O makes them money and they're a business.[/QUOTE]
hail corporate
[QUOTE=formatme;49299857]ur shitting me right? so garry should shutdown darkrp servers because they are not sandbox??[/QUOTE]
Sandbox kinda implies that you can do any of that, because its sandbox.
Also. I remember correctly and please do correct me on this, Garry did create DarkRP.
[QUOTE=Passing;49299896]Sandbox kinda implies that you can do any of that, because its sandbox.
Also. I remember correctly and please do correct me on this, Garry did create DarkRP.[/QUOTE]
actually, someone named "Rick Darkalonio" (hence dark RP) created it
[editline]12th December 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=formatme;49299857]ur shitting me right? so garry should shutdown darkrp servers because they are not sandbox??
and this isn't some private server, its a community and take2 went to the next step to sue the owners of a community wich members supported modding and no longer support take2 lol[/QUOTE]
but the entire point of GMOD is absolute player/modding freedom and it has native addon support
the game is built around this, GTA5 technically wasn't
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