University of California students vote to take down the American flag on campus as it symbolizes "co - Polidicks

[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;47273708]Usually parody is making fun of something somebody said, not something they didn't say.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=l337k1ll4;47273735]I'd call pretending a piece of cloth symbolizes something that it doesn't just so you can yell and scream and kick up a big stink about it the very definition of oversensitive. I don't understand how that could possibly have anything to do with tumblr no matter how you twist what I[I] say [/I]though.[/QUOTE] This conversation isn't going to get ANYWHERE.

[QUOTE=OvB;47273677]My college has a room of just flags. There's a flag from the nation of every student that has ever gone to the college. I'm not sure how many flags of the world we're missing, but there's a lot of flags in there.[/QUOTE] Same. The lobby in our campus' main building has loads of flags hanging everywhere. I keep trying to find the North Korean flag with no success so far.

[quote]“(F)lags construct paradigms of conformity and sets homogenized standards for others to obtain which in this country typically are idolized as freedom, equality and democracy.”[/quote] That's an awfully cynical view of national flags. This seems like such a pointless thing to turn into an issue. These students really need to stop trying so hard to be important. I guess that's a problem a lot of student activists share.

[QUOTE=Mjolnir82991;47273892]That's an awfully cynical view of national flags. This seems like such a pointless thing to turn into an issue. These students really need to stop trying so hard to be important. I guess that's a problem a lot of student activists share.[/QUOTE] Everything is an issue with new college students.

There are lots of reasons to take down the American flag. Or burn it. Whatever. It symbolizes dissatisfaction with the state of the country. They could be saying something like "The NSA keeps us all under surveillance illegally and nothing is being done to change this. I won't recognize this as a free country as long as this practice is continued." Or maybe I dunno, saying that the fucked up distribution of wealth in America has basically ruined its goal of being a society of equal opportunity for all. Or criticizing the fact that ethnic minorities are terrorized by law enforcement, and the government doesn't seem to want to even acknowledge this. I totally agree with taking down American flags in protest of how shitty the country is. But the justification they're using is pretty much garbage.

[QUOTE=LordCrypto;47273682]asu of uc irvine decided to remove flags from a asu of uc irvine room i really don't see the issue this is being made out as far bigger than it actually is[/QUOTE] Sets a very bad precedence

Who gives a crap lol. It's just a cloth. It only has as much meaning as you give to it. You should be able to do whatever you want with the U.S. flag including disrespecting/ignoring/removing it. That's the whole point of it and what it should really stand for.

[QUOTE=bitches;47273723]it seems you need a longer description, for some reason you are acting above others on grounds of a made-up twisted context, accusing the students of being overly sensitive i made a connection in what wasn't a very witty post, to the ridiculous anti-tumblr attitudes that reach the same effect you didn't need to say anything about tumblr in particular for anyone to draw that connection i think you're being intentionally difficult[/QUOTE] It's silly because no ideal is practiced perfectly. It's like saying that abolition is entirely bad because some of it's partcipants didn't support women's rights.

[QUOTE=OvB;47273677]My college has a room of just flags. There's a flag from the nation of every student that has ever gone to the college. I'm not sure how many flags of the world we're missing, but there's a lot of flags in there.[/QUOTE] My college did, until someone got offended about there being a Vietnamese flag or something and they all got taken down. edit: Apparently they had a South Vietnamese flag since the building opened, and people got mad that they also added a current (North) Vietnamese flag.

Thread title is misleading. One flag in one classroom =/= "The American flag on campus"

A couple of God-fearing patriots oughta lock themselves in with the flag before these godless commie bastards can take away Old Glory [t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/Texas_Flag_Come_and_Take_It.svg[/t]

[QUOTE=Moustacheman;47274116]A couple of God-fearing patriots oughta lock themselves in with the flag before these godless commie bastards can take away Old Glory[/QUOTE] Grandpa, are you off your pills again?

[QUOTE=TentuZero;47273637]It's UCI. The damn campus is it's own little town full of elitist bio majors.[/QUOTE] My dad actually works there as a fleet mechanic for the busses and cop cars there, he has some crazy stories....

[QUOTE=bitches;47273635]they held a vote is that so horrible they removed all of the flags, not just the flag of the USA they simply thought it appropriate to remove all flags from a relevant room there wasn't a protest you are making this more of a big deal than it is just because it is hip to think that everyone is dumb and that they don't act thoughtfully[/QUOTE] You're suggesting that this type of behavior is totally fine and acceptable when it isn't. Oh lets push to remove all forms of symbols because they're all bad and people have done bad things while being associated with them.

i think its cool that they made their workplace reflect their beliefs and i think removing the flags was a sign of free thinking in line with the purpose of university education and i think making this into a thread was a really petty and sensationalist thing to do

lock em up and deport them if they wanna hate this country so much

[QUOTE=isreal?;47273571]Freedom of expression?[/QUOTE] Since it's their democratic vote, the decision to take it down should be covered by freedom of expression, yes?

gosh darn flag hatin', book readin' californian commies i am upset at this democratically decided choice of ornament of their own campus

[QUOTE=KommradKommisar;47273582][I]Californians[/I][/QUOTE] Yeah fuck California am i right wow I'm so cool LOL

I can understand not liking your own flag. I fucking hate the English flag because to me, it just screams racist. Doesn't help that it looks like the KKK uniform. That said, the Union Flag is alright. So I don't know, it just seems like a matter of opinion. Taking it down in one room is hardly going to turn them all into members of IS, is it?

[QUOTE=FunnyStarRunner;47273588]They're seriously gonna listen to a bunch of whiny college kids? This is some real anti-Americanism going on here.[/QUOTE] Those kids are americans and they voted to have it not flown. Would it be more american to ignore their vote and decide to fly it anyway? [sp]yes[/sp]

[url]http://www.asuci.uci.edu/legislative/legislations/print.php?cnum=R50-70&gov_branch=ASUCI[/url] That's right folks, this decision was the product of a massive voting pool of 12 in which only 10 actually participated. (and as previously stated it only affects one room buried in the student center)

[QUOTE=BMCHa;47274560][url]http://www.asuci.uci.edu/legislative/legislations/print.php?cnum=R50-70&gov_branch=ASUCI[/url] That's right folks, this decision was the product of a massive voting pool of 12 in which only 10 actually participated. (and as previously stated it only affects one room buried in the student center)[/QUOTE] IF those people are elected to represent all the students then what the issue? Criticizing that would be criticizing representative democracy. It would be unreasonable to expect a vote to be held including every single student, thats not how they do it there, thats not how we do it in society.

It was authored by a guy named Guevara. Maybe they're related to Che Guevera and its a damn dirty commie conspiracy to make 'muricans hate 'murrica. I bet they love that muslin commie kenyan obongo too. *tips teabag hat*

snip - was on an asshole flex

I just woke up, and then I snipped that bit anyway because it was in poor taste.

America. Yes.

Well I mean it's a college campus chances are every other student is a socialist revolutionary

God damn I didn't know flags are that much of a big deal in the US. I'm not talking about the student vote, but the people in this thread getting their panties in a bunch about it. I've been studying at my university's campus for three years and I cannot recall ever seeing an Australian flag anywhere. Does it bother me? Absolutely not. I don't hate my country, but there is a time and a place for national flags. At memorials and commemorations. Federal buildings could probably get away with having the national, aboriginal and Torres Strait islander flags. Unfortunately a lot of no-good bogans like to fly the national flag, especially at things like race riots, and that kinda lets down the flag in a way. That's probably why I'd rather see less flags than more - they should be treasured, not brought out at every opportunity.

I'll have you know the UK flag is the true flag that represents imperialism and colonialism you cali peeps. Long live the empire, God save the queen