Republican politician says 'hot little girls' should carry guns at university so they don't get rape - Polidicks

Wouldn't this also get people targeted by rapists killed? If someone is already in the state of mind where they're gonna rape someone at gunpoint/knifepoint, they aren't going refrain from killing someone who tries to fight back. It's not like robbery, where if a thief kills someone they've greatly escalated their situation - rape is right up there with murder in terms of seriousness of a crime.

[QUOTE=ultra_bright;47177864]-guy goes to rape a chick -guy gets tased for a minute -guy now aggressively rapes chick[/QUOTE] Girl stands around like a muppet for a minute watching the guy flail like a fish? [editline]20th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=itisjuly;47177903]Do you think people will start shooting one another over drunk sex?[/QUOTE] Do you think they won't? Like seriously do you expect that to not be a problem? Cause it's so gonna happen. [editline]20th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Camundongo;47178059]Wouldn't this also get people targeted by rapists killed? If someone is already in the state of mind where they're gonna rape someone at gunpoint/knifepoint, they aren't going refrain from killing someone who tries to fight back. It's not like robbery, where if a thief kills someone they've greatly escalated their situation - rape is right up there with murder in terms of seriousness of a crime.[/QUOTE] That's a bit of a fucking stretch as well, seriously when did rapists morph from rapists into mad max roving marauders after nothing but murder and their hole?

[QUOTE=Rapscallion92;47178065]Girl stands around like a muppet for a minute watching the guy flail like a fish?[/quote] When you get tased, the effect stop immediately after you release the trigger.

[QUOTE=cdr248;47177656]Then the rapists will shift targets to people who dont have gun. Now we have to arm our children, our pets, poor people, democrats, [I][B]weaboos[/B][/I], and the amazon rainforest.[/QUOTE] They already got katanas on their backs to protect them.

[QUOTE=ultra_bright;47177864]-guy goes to rape a chick -guy gets tased for a minute -guy now aggressively rapes chick[/QUOTE] They make self defense tasers that remain in the suspect and continously shock them for enough time to get away, you know.

"Rape will always be a part of college. The only solution is to make gun violence an equal part of it." For the record I'm all for gun ownership, but this idea is fucking dumb.

[QUOTE=Rapscallion92;47178065]That's a bit of a fucking stretch as well, seriously when did rapists morph from rapists into mad max roving marauders after nothing but murder and their hole?[/QUOTE] You are completely right - the majority of rape tends to be people assaulting victims who are sleeping/intoxicated, or using emotional coercion. But being armed is even less useful in those situations. From this guy's statement it sounds he's talking about people who get jumped by strangers in the street at night, and the sort of person who does that probably is a sociopath or has sociopathic tendencies, and they really aren't going to give a fuck about killing someone in that situation.

[QUOTE=ultra_bright;47178243]When you get tased, the effect stop immediately after you release the trigger.[/QUOTE] Carry some gaffer tape, tape the trigger, hey presto. Nah but seriously that's a pretty poor system, why not have a CO2 powered gun fire a dart with a nice big battery and have it keep going til it's drained, just have it run for 30 seconds or some shit and you're good.

[QUOTE=.Isak.;47177822]i just imagined his eyes glazing over as he got a cold sweat, licked his lips, and a little squirt of pre-cum soaked the front of his pants[/QUOTE] the person who said this is a woman

[QUOTE=SebiWarrior;47177309]Would it? You need to be trained to use a firearm. Hot little girls don't have such training, they'd be dangerous.[/QUOTE] How about in order to carry you must have a minimal 10 hour training course? Or something...

[QUOTE=meatwad253;47178898]How about in order to carry you must have a minimal 10 hour training course? Or something...[/QUOTE] Most states have a mandatory training class before they issue you a concealed pistol license.

Someone has to tell [URL="http://www.dayswithoutagoprapemention.com/"]http://www.dayswithoutagoprapemention.com/[/URL] to update.

[QUOTE=ultra_bright;47178243]When you get tased, the effect stop immediately after you release the trigger.[/QUOTE] The convulsions and disorientation caused by getting shocked may keep someone down long enough to get away still. Short of drug use or being a Terminator or something. At the least you'd still be able to get a nice head start if you've keep the shock on for a reasonable amount of time.

This is stupid. For one, most rapes occur when one or both parties are drunk and operating firearms while drunk might not be a great thing to advocate. Violent rapes don't make up a large percentage of the cases. The problem primarily isn't defending oneself but being coerced or taken advantage of in a vulnerable state. The problem isn't the people can't defend themselves, but that fuckfaces don't get that a lack of no doesn't mean yes, coerced yes doesn't mean yes, nor does somebody being blackout and saying yes.

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;47178896]the person who said this is a woman[/QUOTE] Just makes it even better.

[QUOTE=ZakkShock;47177310]Holy shit republicans are retarded[/QUOTE] *one Australian says something dumb* HOLY SHIT AUSTRALIANS ARE RETARDED *one Muslim commits an act of terror* HOLY SHIT ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS *one democrat says something dumb" HOLY SHIT ALL DEMOCRATS ARE RETARDED Every group/party/organization has their idiots/extremists. Remember just because one republican says something, doesn't mean every republican agrees with what was said. Just like how if one Australian guy says something, that doesn't mean every Australian agrees with that guy, and one Muslim committing an act of terror doesn't mean all Muslims are terrorists and agree with violence.

This does nothing to improve the rape situation. The vast majority of rapes occurring on college campuses do not occur because a strange man leapt at you from an alleyway, they occur at parties or on dates. A girl is drugged, or drinks herself into a stupor, and is then taken advantage of. In neither of these cases does a gun help the situation.

[QUOTE=download;47177306]While the way it was said was stupid, being armed would reduce your chances of getting raped, murder, assaulted etc. [B]Edit:[/B] How about instead of just spamming me disagree ratings you actually explain yourself instead of jumping on the "Republicans are always retards" bandwagon.[/QUOTE] How does it reduce chances when most likely someone trying to do all those three things are going to come after you from behind where you can't see them and threaten you with a weapon themselves? And what are the chances that the criminal finds you have a gun/sees you trying to take out a gun and steals it from you? Good job, now the criminal has the gun that supposedly protected your life. Nobody is going to rape/rob you from a far, there going to do it really close to you, no time to pull out a gun.

[QUOTE=Gwoodman;47179270]Nobody is going to rape/rob you from a far, there going to do it really close to you, no time to pull out a gun.[/QUOTE] "Hey, you there! Yeah, you! Stay right where you are! I'm going to come over there and give you a thorough raping! I'll be there in just a minute, so don't you go anywhere." Phew! Thank goodness you had your trusty Gun!

[QUOTE=Gwoodman;47179270]How does it reduce chances when most likely someone trying to do all those three things are going to come after you from behind where you can't see them and threaten you with a weapon themselves? And what are the chances that the criminal finds you have a gun/sees you trying to take out a gun and steals it from you? Good job, now the criminal has the gun that supposedly protected your life. Nobody is going to rape/rob you from a far, there going to do it really close to you, no time to pull out a gun.[/QUOTE] Thank you for this thought experiment, but most studies in the US have indicated a substantive correlation between increase in concealed carry popularity and decrease in street crime. Whatever reason you want to attribute that to, the data strongly suggests that concealed carry works, whether it's an effective defense or merely a deterrent.

[QUOTE=catbarf;47179352]Thank you for this thought experiment, but most studies in the US have indicated a substantive correlation between increase in concealed carry popularity and decrease in street crime. Whatever reason you want to attribute that to, the data strongly suggests that concealed carry works, whether it's an effective defense or merely a deterrent.[/QUOTE] Nothing like living in a society in fear.

[QUOTE=Gwoodman;47179379]Nothing like living in a society in fear.[/QUOTE] I was wondering how far we'd get before the inevitable 'I would be terrified to live in America' comment: [QUOTE=catbarf;47177485]The only people I ever see talk about how frightening it is that ~anyone could be armed~ in America are non-Americans. I especially love the hyperbolic 'I'd be constantly afraid of getting shot' posts, never mind that you are more likely to slip and die in your own bathtub than get shot on a visit to the US, especially if you are not planning to deal drugs or participate in gang war while here. This isn't Somalia. In fact, over three times more Americans die each day to road accidents than to firearms, yet I've never seen a post expressing fear over being hit by a car while in America, and that's a hell of a lot more likely to occur. We have plenty of people here who are strongly anti-gun but don't have that kind of histrionic reaction because the fact is that guns are not an overt part of day-to-day life. People with mental issues getting guns is a serious problem that we need to address but if that's your #1 societal concern then your priorities are somewhat skewed. We can allow upstanding citizens to buy guns while simultaneously seeking to reduce their proliferation amongst criminals and prevent purchases by the mentally ill, and we can do all this without living in constant fear of statistically unlikely events.[/QUOTE] Go ask the average American whether they're 'living in a society in fear' and see what they say.

It applies to the people that think they need guns to be safe...

[QUOTE=Gwoodman;47179379]Nothing like living in a society in fear.[/QUOTE] its not like CCW holders go about their daily lives constantly paranoid that muggers/rapists/who-the-fuck-ever are out to get them at all times, the idea is just that you have a gun in case you need it its like carrying your wallet or phone around, or a pocket knife. The intent is that it's just another thing you carry and dont really think about until the time comes that you need it.

My first post still applies though, regardless of your studies and statistics people still get raped/robbed/killed with or without guns.

[QUOTE=Gwoodman;47179490]My first post still applies though, regardless of your studies and statistics people still get raped/robbed/killed with or without guns.[/QUOTE] No shit, a gun is not a magic talisman that wards off all crime. But considering you were first explaining that concealed carry doesn't work because of a thought experiment, and are now backpedaling to something about a culture of fear, I really don't understand what you are trying to say at all.

[QUOTE=Gwoodman;47179469]It applies to the people that think they need guns to be safe...[/QUOTE] again, I dont think most CCW holders feel that they ABSOLUTELY NEED a gun to feel safe, I think most of them would just rather have the means to defend themselves on the very off chance that they need to do so

Am I the only one that thought it was funny how this article slipped in "carrying automatic weapons" when the politician never said that once. Just that they should carry guns. So when people read this, and likewise when I read it the first time, I thought of this: [img]http://248shooter.com/wp-content/uploads/Women-with-Guns-16.jpg[/img] instead of this(the politician in question): [img]http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article10056431.ece/alternates/w620/michele-fiore-facebookv12.jpg[/img] I'm not saying she's right but I thought it was funny how they snipped that bit in there.

[QUOTE=download;47177576]Tasers are usually one shot deals. I don't think Taser sells the reloadable tasers to the public and even then it takes time to reload them. Miss? You're fucked. Guy is wearing heavy clothing? You're fucked. Multiple people? You're fucked. They also have a pretty awful range on them. The civilian versions from memory are only 15ft. The police ones though go out to 45ft.[/QUOTE] They have made taser shotguns :v: [t]http://i.imgur.com/5tSwX0S.jpg[/t]

[QUOTE=catbarf;47179516]No shit, a gun is not a magic talisman that wards off all crime. But considering you were first explaining that concealed carry doesn't work because of a thought experiment, and are now backpedaling to something about a culture of fear, I really don't understand what you are trying to say at all.[/QUOTE] you said it yourself, "a gun is not a magic talisman that wards off all crime" and that's pretty much about the thread topic lol second point is Americans have a tendency to try to move the attention towards weapons instead of trying to find other methods of crime reduction I'm not here in as an anti-american anti-gun guy, chill out