Republican politician says 'hot little girls' should carry guns at university so they don't get rape - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Blazyd;47179157]*one Australian says something dumb* HOLY SHIT AUSTRALIANS ARE RETARDED *one Muslim commits an act of terror* HOLY SHIT ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS *one democrat says something dumb" HOLY SHIT ALL DEMOCRATS ARE RETARDED Every group/party/organization has their idiots/extremists. Remember just because one republican says something, doesn't mean every republican agrees with what was said. Just like how if one Australian guy says something, that doesn't mean every Australian agrees with that guy, and one Muslim committing an act of terror doesn't mean all Muslims are terrorists and agree with violence.[/QUOTE] Ah yes, republicans being creepy and weird about rape isn't [url=http://goprapeadvisorychart.com/]typical of them[/url].

For what it's worth, you can educate people to not rape. A large part of them are not sociopaths or whatever but simply people who don't see anything wrong with having sex with drunk girls (or guys, as I've witnessed with some friends) because nobody ever took the time to clearly set down principles that are more grounded than "breaking the law is bad and you'll get punished if caught" and they do not consider it rape to begin with.

[QUOTE=Gwoodman;47179490]My first post still applies though, regardless of your studies and statistics people still get raped/robbed/killed with or without guns.[/QUOTE] I totally agree, but I dont really see what your point is are you saying that it would be bad if more women had CCW permits?

[QUOTE=Timebomb575;47179554]I totally agree, but I dont really see what your point is are you saying that it would be bad if more women had CCW permits?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Americans have a tendency to try to move the attention towards weapons instead of trying to find other methods of crime reduction[/QUOTE] :)

She makes it seem like the entirety of men are out to rape women.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;47177443]How about we try to encourage people to stop assaulting others and actually educate people on why it's fucking wrong as opposed to just "let's kill them". I'm all for plugging holes in rapists, but how about we try not to have rapists in the first place?[/QUOTE] But they know it's wrong, they're just terrible people We either have to catch them or be prepared for them

[QUOTE=Gwoodman;47179542]you said it yourself, "a gun is not a magic talisman that wards off all crime" and that's pretty much about the thread topic lol second point is Americans have a tendency to try to move the attention towards weapons instead of trying to find other methods of crime reduction I'm not here in as an anti-american anti-gun guy, chill out[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Gwoodman;47179558]:)[/QUOTE] So first it's 'concealed carry doesn't work at all because thought experiment', then it's 'concealed carry won't save you all the time', then it's 'americans jump to guns also I am not offering any alternatives'. What are you saying at this point?

[QUOTE=Gwoodman;47179542]you said it yourself, "a gun is not a magic talisman that wards off all crime" and that's pretty much about the thread topic lol second point is Americans have a tendency to try to move the attention towards weapons instead of trying to find other methods of crime reduction [/quote] personally I believe we tend to move towards weapons and self defense as means of crime reduction because we have this culturally ingrained sense of individual responsibility, and an inherent distrust of higher powers to do anything effectively we arent opposed to other methods of crime reduction, but given that those currently arent in place, I think the best action one can take as an individual is to learn how to defend yourself Im not a CCW holder, but if I were put in a shitty situation, I would rather be able to rely on myself than hope for the police to help me or something [quote] I'm not here in as an anti-american anti-gun guy, chill out[/QUOTE] to be fair, you did kind of come off as pretty anti-gun/anti-american when you were all like "BOY IT MUST SUCK LIVING IN A SOCIETY OF FEAR" [editline]20th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Gwoodman;47179558]:)[/QUOTE] is there something wrong with pursuing both? the end-goal here is obviously to have a society where people dont [I]need[/I] CCW permits, but until then I dont see anything wrong with having them

[QUOTE=Timebomb575;47179602]to be fair, you did kind of come off as pretty anti-gun/anti-american when you were all like "BOY IT MUST SUCK LIVING IN A SOCIETY OF FEAR"[/QUOTE] Sorry about that but you have to understand from a different point of view where guns aren't exactly a necessity, American "gun culture" tends to be a very weird thing.

I've always wondered, what happens if both parties are drunk? Is it a mutual rape?

[QUOTE=Gwoodman;47179629]Sorry about that but you have to understand from a different point of view where guns aren't exactly a necessity, American "gun culture" tends to be a very weird thing.[/QUOTE] nah I totally get you dude, gun culture is probably totally alien to the vast majority of people it just seems like a lot of people have this idea that CCW holders just want to carry a gun to feel powerful or like a cowboy or something, when in reality most CCW holders carry solely for practical reasons thats not to say that freaks who masturbate to their Glock dont exist, but in my experience those people tend to be relegated to the internet and that's about it

[QUOTE=download;47177408]Yes, less lethal and less effective options when facing a violent and possibly fatal encounter, perfect![/QUOTE] I disagree with the usage of guns but I hate the entire bullshit tumblr tier "tell the rapists how not to rape instead!!!!" shit. Even assuming we could teach EVERY SINGLE PERSON not to rape, there will STILL be rapists. To tell people not to take precautions to discourage rapists or telling people not to have extra methods of defending themselves in the scenario of an assualt just because "they shouldn't have to go out of their way, the rapists should just learn!!!" is just increasing the chance of innocent people getting raped and being unable to defend themselves, which is an awful thing. I can't believe people would actually argue that women shouldn't try to discourage rape. Like I said I'm against gun legalization just because it introduces as many risks as solutions but god damn if there are guns and training available to you and you feel it's not a huge inconvenience: GET ONE. If I could get a gun in my country I most likely would, why in the world should any inoccent person be convinced not to take precautions if they can? [QUOTE=itisjuly;47177462]Lets teach thieves not to steal. Lets teach murderers not to murder. It doesn't work as evident by our prisons full of said people.[/QUOTE] People rating this post dumb, why? Yes we do try to teach people not to steal or murder but we all know that in extreme circumstances people will still do a great number of crimes, we should be taking the liberty to try and prevent these crimes if possible for our own and their sake. I don't think everyone carrying guns around is the perfect solution to this issue but it COULD help, the way it's said may seem creepy and wrong but you've got to look at the message as it is, carrying a gun would most probably give you a slight chance (even if it's an ever so tiny slight chance) of stopping an attempted rape.

[QUOTE=viper shtf;47177414]I don't see any way to get people to stop raping, I mean, everyone raised in [B]ANY[/B] country knows it's wrong. Therefore, the only thing that can help at the moment is women taking steps to not be victims. And carrying a pistol is a good step to take.[/QUOTE] Fixed that for you.

Automatic weapons? What about a tank?

OK, if you want to suggest people carry guns to defend themselves in the case of rape, fine, I don't have any problem with that, but what I'm wondering is does the republican party actually have the ability to say anything about women without coming off as creepy, weird, and sexist? Like if you're Republican that's fine but the actual politicians and news pundits and shit seem to have this crippling inability to talk about women without being creepy you could say this is a minority but I mean with [url=http://goprapeadvisorychart.com/]shit like this[/url] that becomes less and less of an acceptable excuse

[quote]The sexual assaults that are occurring would go down once these sexual predators get a bullet in their head."[/quote] I think it only works as a deterrence IF it's done regularly and it's done without any consequences for the hot little girls doing the shooting. After all, in states like Texas where shooting people is a recreational activity there are still criminals committing every sort of crime you can imagine. So a sexual predator would need to believe his victim is likely to be armed, is likely to be able to use the gun, is likely to hit her target, and won't hesitate for fear of making a mistake and getting prosecuted. It would take quite a few guys being shot to death around the country before that message gets through. She's advocating the slaughter of untold numbers of male college students! She may as well just tell male college students to mark their dorm doors with lamb's blood.

[QUOTE=_Axel;47179634]I've always wondered, what happens if both parties are drunk? Is it a mutual rape?[/QUOTE] The guy's screwed if they're both guys prolly nobody cares

This may have been written but bottom line what a terrible idea. Rape at universities happens at parties and dates and no one wants drunk fraternity kids with guns

I don't think that's how you solve the problem of rape... But you'll get a hell of a lot more shootings on campus, so if that's what you're aiming for... Honestly, from what I know about rape, which I've learned from my campus's big campaign against college rape, the easiest ways to avoid being raped are to drink less at parties and pay attention to people around you. Most of the rapes that happen on our campus happen to victims who are black-out drunk or are otherwise in no position where they would be able to give consent. Whether that be drugged, asleep, otherwise impaired, whatever. Very few of them are violent. I think punishing the offenders would go a long way to helping solve it, though. Pretty much everyone on our campus knows that there aren't any real consequences for it, because everything gets hung up in paperwork, and the university discourages filing charges against the alleged rapist. If we actually saw a few of these cases getting closed and students getting arrested every once in a while, I think fewer people would be inclined to go rape people.

Use guns to instill fear into your would-be predators, instead of teaching would-be predators that sex isn't something you're entitled to. Yeah great work there guys.

[QUOTE=catbarf;47179460]Go ask the average American whether they're 'living in a society in fear' and see what they say.[/QUOTE] I'm scared as shit to go into gun heavy areas so yeah. [editline]20th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Timebomb575;47179692]thats not to say that freaks who masturbate to their Glock dont exist, but in my experience those people tend to be relegated to the internet and that's about it[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://facepunch.com/image.php?u=11553&dateline=1281959550[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Rakmon;47182535]The guy's screwed if they're both guys prolly nobody cares[/QUOTE] Is that true?