• Tom Daley comes out as bisexual
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It doesn't seem like news now, but if this got published due to a "leak", if you will, it would become big news for some, and reputation damaging/changing for Tom, rightly or wrongly.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;43045522]Who the hell is Tom Daley?[/QUOTE] Famous UK Olympian who is fairly often under the national eye when it comes to water sports.
a friend of mine's mum knows him personally, kinda weird seeing them have conversations on facebook
[QUOTE=LegndNikko;43046353]For Alan Turing, it should absolutely be known about his homosexuality, because it had a huge impact on his life. He suffered because he was homosexual. However, for Anderson Cooper? I don't think it's not a big deal to know or not know. It's just another variable of a person, and please, correct me if I'm wrong, but Cooper's homosexuality hasn't made much of a difference in his life or career. He's a journalist that happens to be gay. Isn't the goal so that sexuality is just another variable that isn't a big deal, in terms of public image, such as sex, gender, or ethnicity?[/QUOTE] Part of the problem is normalizing it. We don't have a rich history of men with husbands or women with wives. There's no way to implicitly 'tag' someone as gay, in the same way that a white man in America in the 1700's was a Christian European, or that a person with a spouse of the opposite gender is straight. Until Sexuality, any type, becomes a normalized part of existing then we must be forward thinking and proactive about Gays and Bisexuals. The risk is another generation forgetting, and in forgetting, submitting to the old standard. As a side note, I do agree that observance and speculations about homosexuality are overblown. But part of that is because it still has a scandalous nature about it. It's easy to make a room full of 'normal' people uneasy by saying something as pie-eating optimistic as "One in Ten people is gay. FACT." It's harder to get them to think if you just say, "Some people are gay, maybe a lot, maybe not." You could replace Jewish or Muslim in that sentence and it would have the same emotional weight.
I mentally mixed up Tom Daley and Tom DeLay and now I'm very disappointed.
as if this is a shock
[QUOTE=Crazy Ivan;43045815]For those of you who don't think it's very important that some olympian is bisexual, it's important to consider how people look at sexuality. No history text book will tell you that Alan Turing was chemically castrated for being a homosexual, or that it lead to his suicide. It will tell you that he's the father of modern computers. No one will ever remember that Anderson Cooper is gay. Just that he's got a nice voice, white hair and has been a prominent journalist for the last decade. I could go on, but when history forgets that gay and bisexual people exist, it's easier for people to say they never existed. When that happens, it becomes easier to believe what folks like the Russian majority believe, that homosexuality is a deviance and not just a difference. And that deviances need to be corrected, not embraced.[/QUOTE] It does on Wikipedia (if you consider it a textbook,) but to be honest, do you really care what and who they like to fuck? Sorry if I seem rude, but ones sexuality shouldn't really be that big of a deal.
[QUOTE=Alxnotorious;43045387]Oh wow, he's 19? That's crazy. Friggin' Olympians man.[/QUOTE] They're built for efficiency, not for longevity, sadly. They're considered outmoded by the time they're 25+, iirc.
Not really surprising but that's really cool. It's already really hard to come out when you're an unknown, it must be much tougher when you're famous and specially when you work with sports
wow big deal
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;43045570]what the hell is google?[/QUOTE] what the hell is a forum? Oh a place to discuss things, i guess questions don't constitute as things to discuss.
[QUOTE=Butthurter;43047430]the first sentence on the article source literally reads "olympic diver"[/QUOTE] Awesome so that means, fatfatfatty, rainbowstalin, and myself didn't read the article. Except I didn't pretend i did.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;43045374]The funny thing about all of this is that he is actually coming out as Bisexual and no one seems to realize that.[/QUOTE] Yeah, can we please bring more attention to this? It's really disheartening to see someone famous come out as bisexual, which is frequently ignored or treated rather poorly, and everyone label him as gay.
hes hot.
[QUOTE=Crazy Ivan;43045815]For those of you who don't think it's very important that some olympian is bisexual, it's important to consider how people look at sexuality. [B] No history text book will tell you that Alan Turing was chemically castrated for being a homosexual, or that it lead to his suicide. It will tell you that he's the father of modern computers.[/B] No one will ever remember that Anderson Cooper is gay. Just that he's got a nice voice, white hair and has been a prominent journalist for the last decade. I could go on, but when history forgets that gay and bisexual people exist, it's easier for people to say they never existed. When that happens, it becomes easier to believe what folks like the Russian majority believe, that homosexuality is a deviance and not just a difference. And that deviances need to be corrected, not embraced.[/QUOTE] Everything I have read about Turing has mentioned both of these things, but you do have a point anyway.
I'm not so sure if making this video right before he goes to Texas was the best idea...
[QUOTE=LegndNikko;43046353]For Alan Turing, it should absolutely be known about his homosexuality, because it had a huge impact on his life. He suffered because he was homosexual. However, for Anderson Cooper? I don't think it's not a big deal to know or not know. It's just another variable of a person, and please, correct me if I'm wrong, but Cooper's homosexuality hasn't made much of a difference in his life or career. He's a journalist that happens to be gay. Isn't the goal so that sexuality is just another variable that isn't a big deal, in terms of public image, such as sex, gender, or ethnicity?[/QUOTE] I'm really sorry, but this is so incorrect. You'd be [I]very[/I] hard pressed in America to find a non-heterosexual person whose sexuality hasn't had an impact on them, even today, let alone when Anderson Cooper was growing up. The impact might not be obvious, but it's definitely there. And yes, that is the goal, and part of that goal is to show the public that non-heterosexuals exist in every aspect of society. It's also to create heroes and role models within the gsm community.
[QUOTE=latin_geek;43046158]I haven't heard of many textbooks that state everything that went on in a person's private life, how many of them tell you "x scientist dude was straight"[/QUOTE] Because society as it is right now is pretty friggin' heteronormative so unless someone says different everyone is assumed to be straight, which is pretty bullshit.
I thought he was going to tell us that he was straight, that would have been a real suprise.
Whatever guy who gets to bang that hot body is a lucky son of a bitch.
[QUOTE=Crazy Ivan;43045815]For those of you who don't think it's very important that some olympian is bisexual, it's important to consider how people look at sexuality. No history text book will tell you that Alan Turing was chemically castrated for being a homosexual, or that it lead to his suicide. It will tell you that he's the father of modern computers. No one will ever remember that Anderson Cooper is gay. Just that he's got a nice voice, white hair and has been a prominent journalist for the last decade. I could go on, but when history forgets that gay and bisexual people exist, it's easier for people to say they never existed. When that happens, it becomes easier to believe what folks like the Russian majority believe, that homosexuality is a deviance and not just a difference. And that deviances need to be corrected, not embraced.[/QUOTE] I thought that the ultimate goal was to convince everyone that homosexuality should be treated the same way as hetrosexualty; to stop people treating them differently. Which is what that is. So I don't see your point.
[QUOTE=Crazy Ivan;43045815]For those of you who don't think it's very important that some olympian is bisexual, it's important to consider how people look at sexuality. No history text book will tell you that Alan Turing was chemically castrated for being a homosexual, or that it lead to his suicide. It will tell you that he's the father of modern computers. No one will ever remember that Anderson Cooper is gay. Just that he's got a nice voice, white hair and has been a prominent journalist for the last decade. I could go on, but when history forgets that gay and bisexual people exist, it's easier for people to say they never existed. When that happens, it becomes easier to believe what folks like the Russian majority believe, that homosexuality is a deviance and not just a difference. And that deviances need to be corrected, not embraced.[/QUOTE] Or, maybe it's just because no one really gives a shit about peoples' sexuality. Really, the fact that those people were homosexuals, or that Mr. Daley here is bisexual, has no effect whatsoever on what they are known for. Sexuality is a nonissue in most cases, the only time it even becomes relevant is when people make a point of emphasizing it.
[QUOTE=slayer64;43050341]Or, maybe it's just because no one really gives a shit about peoples' sexuality. Really, the fact that those people were homosexuals, or that Mr. Daley here is bisexual, has no effect whatsoever on what they are known for. Sexuality is a nonissue in most cases, the only time it even becomes relevant is when people make a point of emphasizing it.[/QUOTE] are you serious? you're from a country where the majority of states don't recognize gay marriage, where people are still assaulted and sometimes killed for being gay. sexuality is a huge part of who you are, and it's still a huge part of how people perceive and react to you [editline]3rd December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Leestons;43045285]Not really sure why this is news. He's gay, good for him.[/QUOTE] maybe because he's an olympian coming out before an olypmics held in one of the most homophobic countries in the world?
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43050400]are you serious? you're from a country where the majority of states don't recognize gay marriage, where people are still assaulted and sometimes killed for being gay. sexuality is a huge part of who you are, and it's still a huge part of how people perceive and react to you[/QUOTE] That isn't what I meant. I simply meant that those peoples' sexuality had [I]nothing to do[/I] with what they are known for. Daley's sexuality has nothing to do with his Olympic career, so people shouldn't really dwell on it.
[QUOTE=slayer64;43050569]That isn't what I meant. I simply meant that those peoples' sexuality had [I]nothing to do[/I] with what they are known for. Daley's sexuality has nothing to do with his Olympic career, so people shouldn't really dwell on it.[/QUOTE] except it had ALOT to do with who they are, what struggles they faced and had to overcome to get to where they are
why can't ugly people come out everyone thinks I'm straight
[QUOTE=Zeke129;43051527]why can't ugly people come out everyone thinks I'm straight[/QUOTE] It's because you aren't ~fabulous~ enough
He's rather cute.
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