• China's rise raises Australia war fears
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This is the good thing about nukes, they are made to not be used. If one nation nukes another, that nation will be nuked as well
[QUOTE=DrBreen;24513721]This is the good thing about nukes, they are made to not be used. If one nation nukes another, that nation will be nuked as well[/QUOTE] Not really
While the likelihood of China invading anyone is slim to none, you cannot ignore the huge physical military buildup and computer espionage that is taking place.
[QUOTE=Torfaldur;24513699]ww2[/QUOTE] Who did they attack?
[QUOTE=Swebonny;24513604]China is no physical threat to anyone. When was the last time they attacked another country to expand its land? The last time China used its navy to attack someone else was 500 years ago (Somalia pirates not counted.) [url]http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article5400661.ece[/url][/QUOTE] China invaded Tibet right after the communist takeover and soon intervened in the Korean War to prevent North Korea falling under western rule. Later they almost went to a nuclear conflict with the Soviets and all kinds of shit has happened since that... [img]http://castlemaineindependent.org/press/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/1989_tiananmen.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Torfaldur;24513699]ww2[/QUOTE] Ahh, they were defending in WW2.
Tomorrow When The War Began was an epic book, I'm going to see the movie this Saturday :smile:
It does seem that China is trying to 'fly under the radar' - so to speak, on the status and sheer size it's military has grown to.
[QUOTE=NotSo1337;24512785] [sp]I keep imagining Tomrrow, When The War Began is going to become based on a true story in the coming months[/sp][/QUOTE] Awesome series [IMG]http://www.facepunch.com/image.php?u=323619&dateline=1281608094[/IMG]:hf:[IMG]http://www.facepunch.com/image.php?u=135390&dateline=1281748240[/IMG]:hf:[IMG]http://www.facepunch.com/image.php?u=189358&dateline=1277728803[/IMG]
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Well China has been buying up a shitload of resources and stockpiling them. Possible risk, but not in the near future.
The OP's article is nearly 2 years old, so its safe to say the spending won't increase - especially given Kevin Rudd is no longer PM.
[QUOTE=CheeseMan;24513082]The government is communist but they've adopted a very capitalist stance on their economy/business. Means nothing. Stop[/QUOTE] But they are still oppressing their people. They have political prisons.
[QUOTE=Uberman77883;24514081]But they are still oppressing their people. They have political prisons.[/QUOTE] Uhh, that's not Communism - that's just crushing the opposition.
[QUOTE=Stene;24513779]China invaded Tibet right after the communist takeover and soon intervened in the Korean War to prevent North Korea falling under western rule. Later they almost went to a nuclear conflict with the Soviets and all kinds of shit has happened since that... [img]http://castlemaineindependent.org/press/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/1989_tiananmen.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Ah yes that's true. I should be more clear. I was meaning outside their own borders, as in, outside Asia.
Australia
Amazing reply Atchell.
That's stupid, China are far too reliant on Imported goods to attack Australia, and attacking Australia will cause them to lose this imports.
[QUOTE=cyclocius;24514594]That's stupid, China are far too reliant on Imported goods to attack Australia, and attacking Australia will cause them to lose this imports.[/QUOTE] Do you have any idea just how many resources China has stockpiled over the years? They have 300 million liters of oil alone that has been publicly recognised.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;24514549]Amazing reply Atchell.[/QUOTE] Just thought it was worth mentioning.
I don't see what China would gain by military expansion (although in the Kashmir region they could gain some lucrative resources, they would have to wrestle India and Pakistan though.) the way I see it China are very closed and defensive when it comes to military matters, they like to keep themselves within there own borders. The only way China tries it on with other countries is by getting a share of their resources via economic trade and tied aid, this is especially true with some Middle Eastern countries and African countries who are rich in oil. If anything it would be the United States that would kick off a global conflict, and it would probably be unintended by them. their rapid economic expansion and aggressive foreign policy (especially when it comes to acquiring resources) have made them many enemies in the international community, even cooling relations with former allies. Of course they value international friendship but only from a position of superiority. they also have a knack of supporting very controversial governments and groups simply because they are adversaries of their own enemies, which harks back to the days of the cold war, if you think about it they haven't really changed an awful lot since then. As many people have already said it would also be detrimental for China to expand itself militarily, most (if not all) of its exports and some imports come from the very countries that it is speculated to invade. If they did so they would suffer collapse, as their own homegrown economy would not sustain the sheer cost of it's massive military.
[QUOTE=PulpedFiction;24512962]Russia has been a 'threat' all through the 60s, 70s and 80s and was militarily able to take on the US, they didn't though. Guess what, neither will China. Everyone has far too much to lose by going into an all out war. It just won't happen.[/QUOTE] They didn't because either side would launch fucking thousands of nukes and kill everyone else in the process.
[img]http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/358/wtfte.png[/img] wtf mate ^^
[QUOTE=DogGunn;24513796]Ahh, they were defending in WW2.[/QUOTE] China was in the midst of a civil war in ww2. Japan also invaded because Japan can't take China if China was united. Those fucking pussies. P.S. I'm Chinese
[QUOTE=alienmartian23;24514932] wtf mate ^^[/QUOTE] It's China's secret battle plan, for the invasion of Australia. They intend to remove the Kangaroos first so as to damage Australia's tourist industry.
China wouldn't dare touch australia... our aboriginal's are more powerful than... im not even going to end that :smith:
[QUOTE=MrTwicks;24515152]China wouldn't dare touch australia... our aboriginal's are more powerful than... im not even going to end that :smith:[/QUOTE] Zimbabwe?
It's always good to prepare for the war. It brings a lot of employment.
I warned you about that China, bro, I WARNED you! [editline]02:45PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Stene;24513779]China invaded Tibet right after the communist takeover and soon intervened in the Korean War to prevent North Korea falling under western rule. Later they almost went to a nuclear conflict with the Soviets and all kinds of shit has happened since that... [img_thumb]http://castlemaineindependent.org/press/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/1989_tiananmen.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Don't forget border wars with India, active invasion of Vietnam, and sending troops to fight in the Laos-Vietnam-Cambodia conflicts.
Australia needs a nuke program to protect ourselfs from China.... Hell... If China invades Australia China's citys would be nuked about three hours after knowing the Australian-American-New Zealand agreement were if one country goes into a war, They all have to go.
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