Obama Lays down the smackdown on Senate about his Job Act - Polidicks

Well , I just hope something will happen..

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32655463]Obama's getting tougher on Congress.[/QUOTE] Talking tough and actually seeing something go though are two different things. He has been "tough" before and nothing has happened.

Obama has evolved into Campaign Obama It's super useful !

it's funny because obama's basically trying to reason to a bunch of kids plugging their ears and saying, "la-la-la, i can't hear you!"

Seriously, FUCK THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. They are acting like such huge assholes now with Congress.

[QUOTE]"If the goal is to create jobs, then why are we even talking about tax hikes?" Republican Senate Minority leader Mitch McConnell said on Thursday.[/QUOTE] Is he mentally slow? Taxes pay for everything, how does he suppose they are going to create jobs? By cutting all spending and having no government activity? Because that will soooo make the American people have more money or better off in some tangible way.

Sure is good all Republicans are evil.

[QUOTE=dialogical;32670751]Sure is good all Republicans are evil.[/QUOTE] Are all Republicans evil? No. Is Mitch McConnell a bad politician? Yes. He's said himself his first priority is to make Obama a one-term president, and he's the head Senate Republican. What does that tell you about the GOP?

Doesn't matter what he says, the Republicans know all they have to do is obstruct, obstruct, obstruct. Their attitude is, as long as things get worse by next November, they'll be able to take power back.

[QUOTE=dialogical;32670751]Sure is good all Republicans are evil.[/QUOTE] Jon Huntsman seems like a reasonable guy. I'm actually surprised he is a republican.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32670969]Are all Republicans evil? No. Is Mitch McConnell a bad politician? Yes. He's said himself his first priority is to make Obama a one-term president, and he's the head Senate Republican. What does that tell you about the GOP?[/QUOTE] It doesn't tell me anything about the people who constitute the GOP, all it tells me about is McConnell. And why is it so surprising that the head of the opposition party wants his party to be the one in power? That strikes me as common sense, not evidence of some sort of nefarious agenda.

[QUOTE=dialogical;32673690]It doesn't tell me anything about the people who constitute the GOP, all it tells me about is McConnell. And why is it so surprising that the head of the opposition party wants his party to be the one in power? That strikes me as common sense, not evidence of some sort of nefarious agenda.[/QUOTE] When he puts that interest before doing something honestly and in the right way. And really, people who constitute the GOP? I find it hard to take that kind of person seriously, the implications are ridiculous. Oppose gay marriage, statehood for Palestine, and all taxes/regulation? Impressively sad. If not, well those are in the GOP platform, so you might as well not even consider yourself Republican.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32673818]When he puts that interest before doing something honestly and in the right way. And really, people who constitute the GOP? I find it hard to take that kind of person seriously, the implications are ridiculous. Oppose gay marriage, statehood for Palestine, and all taxes/regulation? Impressively sad. If not, well those are in the GOP platform, so you might as well not even consider yourself Republican.[/QUOTE] I know you're not saying that anyone who doesn't agree with every aspect of a political party isn't a member of that party, because you are way smarter than that. And it is his belief that the way the democrats are operating isn't, in fact, "the right way." Therefore he is trying to create a change in power so things can be done in accordance with what he thinks is best. On a side note, I'm pretty sure most Republican's aren't in favor of Palestine gaining statehood. Especially not at the expense of a ceasefire.

[QUOTE=dialogical;32674021]I know you're not saying that anyone who doesn't agree with every aspect of a political party isn't a member of that party, because you are way smarter than that. And it is his belief that the way the democrats are operating isn't, in fact, "the right way." Therefore he is trying to create a change in power so things can be done in accordance with what he thinks is best.[/quote] Those three things are some of the main tenants of the GOP platform? If you don't mind me asking, if you don't stand for those, what do you stand for in regard to Republican ideology? I don't think the Democrats are operating in the best way either, I'm not saying they are. [QUOTE=dialogical;32674021]On a side note, I'm pretty sure most Republican's aren't in favor of Palestine gaining statehood. Especially not at the expense of a ceasefire.[/QUOTE] I mean they're opposed to it. the "oppose" portion of my post goes for all 3 of those things.

It seems like Obama had hopes for the Republicans modifying their ideals in the face of a crisis, and now several years on he's realised they are simply so entrenched in their bullshit that it simply won't happen. I imagine we'll see him get increasingly forceful over the next few months, both because time could be running out for him to make lasting changes (if it hasn't already) and to bolster his votes. I agree with the others who've stated he should have done this from day one. Perhaps if he gets voted in again he will.

[QUOTE=Fort83;32677609]Heres an idea Obama, lets get rid of the republicans.[/QUOTE] (keep in mind I'm not attacking anyone in particular here, so don't fell offended Fort83) Considering yourself either liberal or conservative is completely asinine in my opinion, what you just follow the other 5000 idiots in your group ? You need to develop your own damned views and opinions, not just follow a politician's crap, sure you can have some common grounds, but considering yourself one or the other is just plain ignorant. That said, you can LEAN towards a side, but that's completely perspective based so the side you claim to be leaning towards might not be considered the same universally. Tl;Dr ... Politics suck and we need to elect scientists for this important stuff (Within obvious bounds, can't have scientists trying to smash the moon into earth to see what happens).

[QUOTE=glitchvid;32678106] Tl;Dr ... Politics suck and we need to elect scientists for this important stuff (Within obvious bounds, can't have scientists trying to smash the moon into earth to see what happens).[/QUOTE] Unfortunately there wouldn't be much of a difference if you used scientists. Society isn't physics, and answers aren't as easily tested and straightforward. e.g. show a problem to two economics and you'll have four different answers

[QUOTE=Contag;32678141]Unfortunately there wouldn't be much of a difference if you used scientists. Society isn't physics, and answers aren't as easily tested and straightforward. e.g. show a problem to two economics and you'll have four different answers[/QUOTE] But at least you have 4 answers, and not 4 wars because these 2 politicians disagree

[QUOTE=TheTalon;32656275]It's funny because the republicans still want to be taken seriously, even after they said NO to them and the wealthiest losing their tax cuts Bush gave them 10 years ago, or else they wouldn't raise the debt ceiling (Which is dumb anyway) But not raising it would mean America just basically going down in flames. They would rather hold onto their little tax cuts, OR, watch the world burn... What kind of public servant is that[/QUOTE] Isn't there some kind of rule that Obama can enact if the quality of life/economy goes to hell in order to prevent it from deteriorating further? Like can't he go, "I don't care what the fuck you say, unemployment and homelessness are at an all time high, people are sick and dying on the streets, you don't get a choice in saying whether or not you get to keep your tax cuts"? I mean the greedy attitude that the rich have in the US is quite literally KILLING people.

[QUOTE=sltungle;32678213]Isn't there some kind of rule that Obama can enact if the quality of life/economy goes to hell in order to prevent it from deteriorating further? Like can't he go, "I don't care what the fuck you say, unemployment and homelessness are at an all time high, people are sick and dying on the streets, you don't get a choice in saying whether or not you get to keep your tax cuts"? I mean the greedy attitude that the rich have in the US is quite literally KILLING people.[/QUOTE] There's the Executive Order, if that's what you're thinking of. I know that the president does have the right to order something into law, but only if he's been loosely given that power by congress. Hell, the republicans love loop-holes so much, maybe Obama could find some to abuse.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32670969]Are all Republicans evil? No. Is Mitch McConnell a bad politician? Yes. [/QUOTE] Does Mitch McConnell totally look like a turtle? [img]http://www.politicususa.com/wp-content/uploads/mitch-mcconnell-confused1.jpg[/img] Yes [editline]8th October 2011[/editline] Obama 2012: Fuck the Turtleman

Lately I've been hearing alot of shit going down in america. anyone mind giving me the quick version?

[QUOTE=Radley;32678997]Lately I've been hearing alot of shit going down in america. anyone mind giving me the quick version?[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff268/KASHINO93/2480908974_cd60327b9a.jpg[/IMG]

Woo! Obama is becoming the MAN

Democrats seriously need to get a better marketing team for their election campaigns. Because I'm pretty sure "Republican Senators aren't doing their job, and fucking over the country to suit their own limited needs." is a pretty straight forward and easy to understand incentive to vote Democrat. I hate both parties with varying degree, but some of the Republican leaders are the definition of shit clogging up the progress pipeline.

[QUOTE=oldeskoolfan;32678913]There's the Executive Order, if that's what you're thinking of. I know that the president does have the right to order something into law, but only if he's been loosely given that power by congress. Hell, the republicans love loop-holes so much, maybe Obama could find some to abuse.[/QUOTE] He sure as hell should find some damn loopholes if they exist.

Obama is getting some serious respect points from me because of this article. I'm really glad he's acknowledging our concerns.

Instant I read the title this began playing in my head [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn2YfYaOB8U&feature=related[/media]

They've ignored every speech in the past, no reason to think the Republican obstructionists will change their minds now.

[QUOTE=Scoooby;32957267]Obama is getting some serious respect points from me because of this article. I'm really glad he's acknowledging our concerns.[/QUOTE] Why did you bump this? I'm seriously starting to wonder how people are getting to 2 week old articles and not noticing. I mean, they have to sift through multiple pages of the forums. I think that bumps over a week should be automatically banned because there's no possible way to do it unless you're trolling. I mean, this bumper was a gold member. He obviously knew how to use the forums.