Boy, 13, from Scotland slit friend's throat in Xbox row - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Swamplord;40523888]Ultra Violent lol[/url][/QUOTE] I thought that if any game could carry the title of ultra violent, Gears of War would be one of them.

I started playing Halo when I was 8, and I know the only time I ever became anything close to violent over videogames was when I was frustrated with repeatedly losing to my brothers. It was the competitiveness, not the game, that made me rage.

I read the article and did it say that the 13 year old attacker is already a father? did I reading that right?

Why am I not surprised this happened in Glasgow?

[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;40524210]The only way violent video games can cause problems is if there's a pre-existing, underlying issue such as the inability to seperate the games from reality, you know, something that would be present due to a massive underlying mental problem like sociopathy.[/QUOTE] The sociopathy in some cases could be brushed hard due to the video games and bring it out more, but IMHO that's got to be pretty rare and shit. anything can cause that.

[QUOTE=booster;40523732]What's with these xbox related news lately?[/QUOTE] Its all generated hype for the new console

[QUOTE=Sword and Paint;40523975]Kids playing 18 rated games. Of course their little minds are going to get fucked. Police should enforce fines or jail for parents allowing kids to play 15 - 18 rated games cause their minds cannot handle it.[/QUOTE] With Quake's gratuitous amount of satanic imagery that I saw as a little kid, it's no wonder I am a normal person.

[QUOTE=Sword and Paint;40523975]Kids playing 18 rated games. Of course their little minds are going to get fucked. Police should enforce fines or jail for parents allowing kids to play 15 - 18 rated games cause their minds cannot handle it.[/QUOTE] I've been playing violent games since I was 9 and was never traumatized or driven insane by any of them. I think it's because I had this amazingly unique ability to discern fantasy from real life. But nope the media likes to claim that kids learn how to use guns and steal cars from GTA and killing virtual people will desensitize kids to violence and blood.

I played Doom the first time when I was like 3 years old. I'm chill as fuck, yo.

Stuff like this happens somewhat often(depressingly enough), but media is just now recently reporting more about it to sway decision about video games.

This is not what happens when kids play violent video games, this is what happens when psychopaths get angry.

really sounds like this could have arisen over any competitive sport. why doesn't the media aggressively shit on american tackle football for encouraging kids to assault each other? people get too caught up in the "simulated shooting" thing to actually think about the circumstances

[QUOTE=Roger Waters;40523582]is the officer a clinical psychiatrist? no? fuck off then.[/QUOTE] He isn't saying it as a claim or as evidence, he is putting forward his opinion. It shouldn't be reported though. [editline]4th May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=J!NX;40523862]Its not violent video games that make kids violent. its violent kids made violent by violent video games. From a gamers perspective to parents. Video games should be regulated properly and maturely. Some kids can handle postal 2, some need to wait till their 17 before CoD. IMHO the best bet is to stick to cartoon violence. A good game like Team Fortress 2 or Left 4 Dead is your best bet. Something that is super unrealistic. At about 14-15 Stalker or Counter Strike Tier is good. Assassins Creed if they are very mature and respectable. Batman, Fantasy and Nintendo 'classics' and especially gmod are perfect for 13. Of course, kids who aren't crazy can handle all games.[/QUOTE] This is the thing that is overlooked, a well balanced person who is perfectly sane can play a violent video game and shake it off. In the same way that you can go watch a horribly bloody film and walk out afterwards and be able to separate reality and make-believe. That is what the issue is with violent games, the people who can't make that distinction. Of course, I am not saying that is the case here. For all we know the kid could just be a little shit who happened to slit the throat of someone he met online, he might have just as easily done it to someone else he knew over an argument.

[QUOTE=Rusty100;40524194]xbox live is swiftly becoming the number one cause of manslaughter[/QUOTE] golly gosh when i played Grain Thief Andrea: Saint Johannesburg on Xbox live I just couldn't stop myself from going next door and smashing the neighbour's face into his tile floor 257 times.

[QUOTE=Instant Mix;40523631]It's glasgow. This is commonplace anyway without videogames. In fact, the games probably helped. If he wasn't playing them, the other guy probably would've killed him and then repeatedly kicked his dead corpse shouting "DINNAE FUCKIN MESS WITH ME HIY YE FUCKIN WALLAPER"[/QUOTE] the fucking hell is a " WALLAPER "

"Blame Glasgow not video games"

[QUOTE=Conna;40525806]This is not what happens when kids play violent video games, this is what happens when psychopaths get angry.[/QUOTE] Oh you're the kid's psychiatrist cool thanks for the update doc

[QUOTE=bigmansham;40524571]I read the article and did it say that the 13 year old attacker is already a father? did I reading that right?[/QUOTE] Glasgow.

[QUOTE=Mlisen14;40553760]Oh you're the kid's psychiatrist cool thanks for the update doc[/QUOTE] hes completely right though?? don't make stupid sarcastic comments please

[quote]"The reporting officer was of the opinion that the violent video games played online by the accused may have been a factor in his conduct," Prosecutor Andrew Brown QC told the court.[/quote] 5000 years. Take that in for a moment. Now I ask you. Did we have Video Games 5000 years ago? No? Then all those wars, murders, and other acts of violence must not have ever happened...right?:downs:

[QUOTE=Jurikuer;40554029]5000 years. Take that in for a moment. Now I ask you. Did we have Video Games 5000 years ago? No? Then all those wars, murders, and other acts of violence must not have ever happened...right?:downs:[/QUOTE] I think that's taking it too far. It was never claimed that "hurr durr vidya" was a necessary condition for violence. They just think it's a sufficient one.

[QUOTE=PopLot;40554089]I think that's taking it too far. It was never claimed that "hurr durr vidya" was a necessary condition for violence. They just think it's a sufficient one.[/QUOTE] So because they played an 18+ video game it's automatically okay to blame the video game in question rather than the parents who obviously bought the game for them knowing full well that it was out of their age range. Video Games = Cause of hell on earth Parents = Innocent angels just flying on rainbows No.

[QUOTE=Sword and Paint;40523975]Kids playing 18 rated games. Of course their little minds are going to get fucked. Police should enforce fines or jail for parents allowing kids to play 15 - 18 rated games cause their minds cannot handle it.[/QUOTE] hi i know every single adolescent in the world and their mental maturity

Violence has always existed and will always exist. It's the parents responsibility to teach their children right from wrong and to make sure they are not exposed to things that they are not yet ready for in terms of maturity.

[QUOTE=Mlisen14;40553760]Oh you're the kid's psychiatrist cool thanks for the update doc[/QUOTE] And your medical degree..? Where is it? You don't have one? Then stop playing doctor. By the few studies that have been conducted, [URL="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130326121605.htm"]such as this one which provides that connections between violent video games and people who already have issues can lead to violence[/URL]. But we also have several other studies pointing to just that, it's people who have already got problems, and use videogames to escape the pressure of reality. By arguing like this; [QUOTE=Roger Waters;40523582]is the officer a clinical psychiatrist? no? fuck off then.[/QUOTE] People will use this as flak against the medium in general because people are willingly discrediting entire studies because namely, "It's effecting something I enjoy!" instead of actually finding conclusive argument against these types of things. This isn't to say don't discredit bad studies, but rather collectively forge an opinion without stating, "FUCK YOU, I LIKE VIDEO GAMES AND YOU ARE NOT A PSYCHIATRIC" because all it's going to do is provide that no argument can be mustered without name calling.

[QUOTE=Dissolution;40554001]hes completely right though?? don't make stupid sarcastic comments please[/QUOTE] There are a million reasons a kid could have attacked another kid. Isn't assuming the attacker is a psychopath just as baseless and reductive as assuming games are to blame? [QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;40554155]And your medical degree..? Where is it? You don't have one? Then stop playing doctor. By the few studies that have been conducted, [URL="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130326121605.htm"]such as this one which provides that connections between violent video games and people who already have issues can lead to violence[/URL]. But we also have several other studies pointing to just that, it's people who have already got problems, and use videogames to escape the pressure of reality. [/QUOTE] I didn't say I have a better medical opinion of the kid though. I don't know how you made that leap. Studies don't provide evidence for every case, so I'd rather see the findings of the investigation than just assume the attacker is mentally ill.