US Supreme Court Justice Scalia: homosexuality is similar to bestiality - Polidicks

it's the same thing with pedophilia, the issue is actually acting upon your urges okay so animals give you a boner, whatever, it could be worse it's really not smart to actually fuck one though

[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;39060995]okay so animals give you a boner, whatever, it's really not smart to actually fuck one though[/QUOTE] but my dog just barked twice I think that means yes

[QUOTE=MisterMooth;39060922]where are you even trying to go with this[/QUOTE] I think he's saying that owning a pet is similar to having sex with a pet

[QUOTE=MisterMooth;39060980]says the person who only provides anecdotal evidence from "zoophiles" tell me, do you personally want to have sex with animals[/QUOTE]I am a zoophile, although I've never had sex with any animals personally, I do love animals and have always been able to connect with them, probably much better than most people I deal with, probably because they're generally smarter and less prone to bullshit than most humans are. Is that the answer you were expecting? Does that automatically prove you're right and that I'm wrong? Especially since you just seem to be another typical douchebag troll with nothing helpful or beneficial to say other than mocking people who see things differently than you (really vouches for your character btw, good job) and pretending that validates your opinions more than others somehow.

[QUOTE=Ybbats;39060945]Well if you spend so much time around animals, one would expect you to understand animals better. But that isn't always the case, so I'll just assume you're ignorant or stupid and not really one to really pay attention to the world around you. LEGALLY, it's impossible for animals to give consent, they'd have to verbally indicate or write it down, and we all know they can't do that. Want to make that argument, you'll win, but not against me because that is obviously true and I understand it perfectly. What I seem to know that you don't is that there is a world outside the world of legal and bureaucratic bullshit that people who are raised like you don't seem to understand. Zoophiles don't rape animals, some people do, but in my experience people who associate with the term 'zoophile' generally don't. If it's really so hard for you to believe that some people out there can understand animals better than someone like you who probably doesn't even think twice about any creature other than themselves, I really don't think there is anything I could possibly say to convince you, but that doesn't make you right, especially when you refuse to bring ANY evidence to the discussion whatsoever and rather just choose to judge anyone who might have sex with an animal as a heartless, evil fucking rapist.[/QUOTE] Ok so you think having sex with an animal is ok. So tell me would you consider someone having sex with a young child to be ok so long as the child verbally gives consent? A human child is considerably more intelligent than an animal, and more capable of understanding such a concept like giving consent. If you don't consider having sex with an animal as being wrong then what reasoning would you have for considering having sex with a consenting child as being wrong?

[QUOTE=Ybbats;39061045][B]I am a zoophile[/B], although I've never had sex with any animals personally, I do love animals and have always been able to connect with them, probably much better than most people I deal with, probably because they're generally smarter and less prone to bullshit than most humans are. Is that the answer you were expecting? Does that automatically prove you're right and that I'm wrong? Especially since you just seem to be another typical douchebag troll with nothing helpful or beneficial to say other than mocking people who see things differently than you (really vouches for your character btw, good job) and pretending that validates your opinions more than others somehow.[/QUOTE] you can stop there you can try to defend yourself all want by bringing up how much you can "connect" with animals but having sex with them is always rape and you should seek help if you actually want to do that once you can find me an animal that can write me an essay on sex and consent then I'll let you have sex with them

well this thread is certainly developing in an interesting direction

[QUOTE=Ybbats;39061045]I am a zoophile, although I've never had sex with any animals personally, I do love animals and have always been able to connect with them, probably much better than most people I deal with, probably because they're [b]generally smarter and less prone to bullshit than most humans are.[/b] Is that the answer you were expecting? Does that automatically prove you're right and that I'm wrong? Especially since you just seem to be another typical douchebag troll with nothing helpful or beneficial to say other than mocking people who see things differently than you (really vouches for your character btw, good job) and pretending that validates your opinions more than others somehow.[/QUOTE] look dude so you're a zoophile, whatever but come on, really?

[QUOTE=Ybbats;39061045]probably much better than most people I deal with, probably because they're generally smarter and less prone to bullshit than most humans are[/QUOTE] This is concerning if you think this. Maybe you should hang around with other people.

[QUOTE=thisispain;39061056]well this thread is certainly developing in an interesting direction[/QUOTE] Its gone creepy.

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;39057146]Scalia is definitely one of the craziest judges in modern history, I can't comprehend how he ever got confirmed.[/QUOTE] But also one of the most brilliant. This is one of the instances where he crosses the line of genius and insane. Sad what an irrational belief system can do to an otherwise reasonable person.

[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;39061080]look dude so you're a zoophile, whatever but come on, really?[/QUOTE] If humans relied on instinct and their senses more, and less on bullshit religious/self-fulfilling and logically flawed 'information' that's been passed down for thousands of years, I'm sure we'd be a lot smarter than we are now. But that's not the case. If you think that I'm wrong, you can bury your head in the sand as deep as you want and it won't protect you from reality.

[QUOTE=Ybbats;39061254]If humans relied on instinct more, and less on bullshit religious/self-fulfilling and logically flawed 'information' that's been passed down for thousands of years, I'm sure we'd be a lot smarter than we are now. But that's not the case. If you think that I'm wrong, you can bury your head in the sand as deep as you want and it won't protect you from reality.[/QUOTE] seek help

[QUOTE=Dori;39061262]seek help[/QUOTE]Why don't you help me, you clearly have all the answers to life, so lets hear them.

Look Ybbats just because you can't get a girlfriend doesn't suddenly make fantasizing about your dog okay

[QUOTE=Ybbats;39061254]If humans relied on instinct and their senses more, and less on bullshit religious/self-fulfilling and logically flawed 'information' that's been passed down for thousands of years, I'm sure we'd be a lot smarter than we are now.[/QUOTE] No we fucking wouldn't The very definition of "smart" is the fact that we DON'T do that Humans are smart because they can discover, remember, and communicate information other than just instinct.

[QUOTE=Ybbats;39061254]If humans relied on instinct and their senses more, and less on bullshit religious/self-fulfilling and logically flawed 'information' that's been passed down for thousands of years, I'm sure we'd be a lot smarter than we are now. But that's not the case. If you think that I'm wrong, you can bury your head in the sand as deep as you want and it won't protect you from reality.[/QUOTE] yeah totally dude like just the other day I was at a party and there was this passed out chick and so many guys totally just wanted to bang her right there but because of all this stupid "information" they're not allowed to go by their instincts and have their way with her what is this world coming to

And it's funny cause you guys are actually proving that Scalia is right, or that you agree with him. If you think it's wrong to be sexually attracted to animals, how can it be right to be sexually attracted to someone of the same gender as yourself? That's CLEARLY not natural and provides nothing useful to society. Why the fuck are you idiots standing up for homosexuals like me? Because it's now the 'cool thing to do'? You understand fucking NOTHING and trust me when I say, gay people want no fucking help whatsoever from ignorant dumbasses like you guys who 100 years ago would obviously be on the other side of the fence. Society dictates everything that is acceptable or not, that doesn't have ANY fucking bearing on what is okay and what isn't. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("flaming" - postal))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Ybbats;39061273]Why don't you help me, you clearly have all the answers to life, so lets hear them.[/QUOTE] Rape is non-consensual sex. Animals cannot give consent. QED having sex with animals is raping them.

[QUOTE=Ybbats;39061318]And it's funny cause you guys are actually proving that Scalia is right, or that you agree with him. If you think it's wrong to be sexually attracted to animals, how can it be right to be sexually attracted to someone of the same gender as yourself? That's CLEARLY not natural and provides nothing useful to society. Why the fuck are you idiots standing up for homosexuals like me? Because it's now the 'cool thing to do'? You understand fucking NOTHING and trust me when I say, gay people want no fucking help whatsoever from ignorant dumbasses like you guys who 100 years ago would obviously be on the other side of the fence. Society dictates everything that is acceptable or not, that doesn't have ANY fucking bearing on what is okay and what isn't.[/QUOTE] because homosexuals are actually people and are capable of consent

[QUOTE=Ybbats;39061318]how can it be right to be sexually attracted to someone of the same gender as yourself?[/QUOTE] because homosexual adults can consent to sex and animals can't

[QUOTE=Ybbats;39061254]If humans relied on instinct and their senses more, and less on bullshit religious/self-fulfilling and logically flawed 'information' that's been passed down for thousands of years, I'm sure we'd be a lot smarter than we are now. But that's not the case. If you think that I'm wrong, you can bury your head in the sand as deep as you want and it won't protect you from reality.[/QUOTE] You realize following your base instincts is what results in things like selfishness and our impulse to fight each other, right? A lot of those wars that we fought throughout human history was the result of people following their instincts.

[QUOTE=Ybbats;39061318]And it's funny cause you guys are actually proving that Scalia is right, or that you agree with him. If you think it's wrong to be sexually attracted to animals, how can it be right to be sexually attracted to someone of the same gender as yourself? That's CLEARLY not natural and provides nothing useful to society. Why the fuck are you idiots standing up for homosexuals like me? Because it's now the 'cool thing to do'? You understand fucking NOTHING and trust me when I say, gay people want no fucking help whatsoever from ignorant dumbasses like you guys who 100 years ago would obviously be on the other side of the fence. Society dictates everything that is acceptable or not, that doesn't have ANY fucking bearing on what is okay and what isn't.[/QUOTE] No, no no no. No. Fuck no. There is no mutual attraction between an animal and a person. Two gay people are fully able to feel for each other. It's pretty fucking stupid to pretend there isn't a distinction between "zoophilia" and homosexuality.

if it weren't for the bible I would be able to freely relieve myself in public fuck you mom and dad

[QUOTE=Ybbats;39061318]And it's funny cause you guys are actually proving that Scalia is right, or that you agree with him. If you think it's wrong to be sexually attracted to animals, how can it be right to be sexually attracted to someone of the same gender as yourself? That's CLEARLY not natural and provides nothing useful to society. Why the fuck are you idiots standing up for homosexuals like me? Because it's now the 'cool thing to do'? You understand fucking NOTHING and trust me when I say, gay people want no fucking help whatsoever from ignorant dumbasses like you guys who 100 years ago would obviously be on the other side of the fence. Society dictates everything that is acceptable or not, that doesn't have ANY fucking bearing on what is okay and what isn't.[/QUOTE] Yeah I'm going to be leaving the thread now. You guys have fun I don't feel like getting banned for flaming today.

[QUOTE=Dori;39061370]if it weren't for the bible I would be able to freely relieve myself in public fuck you mom and dad[/QUOTE] I am quite perplexed by this post.

[QUOTE=Dori;39061370]if it weren't for the bible I would be able to freely relieve myself in public fuck you mom and dad[/QUOTE] Eugh no, I'm a prude and the fact that everyone else has genitals disgusts me!!

[QUOTE=Ybbats;39061318]And it's funny cause you guys are actually proving that Scalia is right, or that you agree with him. If you think it's wrong to be sexually attracted to animals, how can it be right to be sexually attracted to someone of the same gender as yourself? That's CLEARLY not natural and provides nothing useful to society. Why the fuck are you idiots standing up for homosexuals like me? Because it's now the 'cool thing to do'? You understand fucking NOTHING and trust me when I say, gay people want no fucking help whatsoever from ignorant dumbasses like you guys who 100 years ago would obviously be on the other side of the fence. Society dictates everything that is acceptable or not, that doesn't have ANY fucking bearing on what is okay and what isn't.[/QUOTE] all hail ybbats, king of the gays For he doth declare from on high the mind of the gay, that we straight might benefit from his wisdom. Amen.

[QUOTE=MisterMooth;39061343]because homosexuals are actually people and are capable of consent[/QUOTE] But they're just misguided, and addicted to sexual acts that are wrong. You're just enabling the disease that is eating at them. There's no argument that you can make that religous bigots haven't already used to make homosexuality seem wrong for over a thousand years. If animals cannot consent to sex, why don't you have any proof or any type of argument that proves they can't? Maybe because they can? Animals have sex all the fucking time, they don't care what it is with, their bodies are wired for sex, JUST LIKE YOURS. It doesn't mean they go around raping every living fucking thing in sight, at least not any more than the average human. That's your assumption that makes you justified in thinking I'm a horrible rapist just trying to justify my deviant sexual acts. Without making a bunch of assumptions and jumping to conclusions everywhere, you guys have no argument. So how the fuck can you guys think that you're so right and I'm so wrong?

It's liable to get me boxed into oblivion, but I do understand and respect Scalia's point. Limitation is a very serious thing. Particularly if you believe in moral or social decay and degeneracy. (And I know some of you closet fascists in there do.) If you give up the legal handholds that traditionally bar Mormons marrying nine wives, Men fucking goats, and "grey area" pedophiles from running off with sixteen year olds just to satisfy another category then you've got a big problem on your plate. Believe it or not equality is a difficult road. Most of you are just fine with the three "terrors" of the legal pandora's box I mentioned. For you they are either laughably inconsequential or you feel that there is some (unfortunately?) basic human right that entitles us all to such choices. There are many others out there, no small minority, that would tend to disagree! And vocally to the point of violence. "Carve out a niche," you might reply. The law system does not like exceptions. It further does not like making boldfaced exceptions at a national level about issues that have been in play for a very long time. I sympathize with Scalia, I really do. I reject his conclusions but I do respect and wonder about the consequences we must face when we do (ultimately and inevitably I feel) let open the gates. Scalia has long made his famous bestiality comparison. It is no great madness. To me, it seems frighteningly apt.