US Supreme Court Justice Scalia: homosexuality is similar to bestiality - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Ybbats;39061318]Why the fuck are you idiots standing up for homosexuals like me? Because it's now the 'cool thing to do'? You understand fucking NOTHING and trust me when I say, gay people want no fucking help whatsoever from ignorant dumbasses like you guys who 100 years ago would obviously be on the other side of the fence. [/QUOTE] you're insulting your fellow LGBT's and their straight allies with nonsense like this

[QUOTE=Ybbats;39060945]Well if you spend so much time around animals, one would expect you to understand animals better. But that isn't always the case, so I'll just assume you're ignorant or stupid and not really one to really pay attention to the world around you. LEGALLY, it's impossible for animals to give consent, they'd have to verbally indicate or write it down, and we all know they can't do that. Want to make that argument, you'll win, but not against me because that is obviously true and I understand it perfectly. What I seem to know that you don't is that there is a world outside the world of legal and bureaucratic bullshit that people who are raised like you don't seem to understand. Zoophiles don't rape animals, some people do, but in my experience people who associate with the term 'zoophile' generally don't. If it's really so hard for you to believe that some people out there can understand animals better than someone like you who probably doesn't even think twice about any creature other than themselves, I really don't think there is anything I could possibly say to convince you, but that doesn't make you right, especially when you refuse to bring ANY evidence to the discussion whatsoever and rather just choose to judge anyone who might have sex with an animal as a heartless, evil fucking rapist.[/QUOTE] Tl;dr: don't let Ybbats take care of your pets when you go on vacation.

[QUOTE=Ybbats;39061450]But they're just misguided, and addicted to sexual acts that are wrong. You're just enabling the disease that is eating at them. There's no argument that you can make that religous bigots haven't already used to make homosexuality seem wrong for over a thousand years. If animals cannot consent to sex, why don't you have any proof or any type of argument that proves they can't? Maybe because they can? Animals have sex all the fucking time, they don't care what it is with, their bodies are wired for sex, JUST LIKE YOURS. It doesn't mean they go around raping every living fucking thing in sight, at least not any more than the average human. That's your assumption that makes you justified in thinking I'm a horrible rapist just trying to justify my deviant sexual acts. Without making a bunch of assumptions and jumping to conclusions everywhere, you guys have no argument. So how the fuck can you guys think that you're so right and I'm so wrong?[/QUOTE] Let's take this from the beginning. Can you sum up your reasons against homosexuality in any arguments other than "It's wrong" or "The good book says so"? If not, none of us cannot take anything you say against homos seriously.

[QUOTE=Nitro836;39061490]Let's take this from the beginning. Can you sum up your reasons against homosexuality in any arguments other than "It's wrong" or "The good book says so"? If not, none of us cannot take anything you say against homos seriously.[/QUOTE] I don't think he's actually a homophobe I think his argument has gotten so wrapped up in sarcasm and replies to other people posts that it's hard to understand what he's trying to say.

I kind of like Scalia for his commerce and federalism opinions, but he's kind of the radical (and often the joke of my conlaw classes. When you know Scalia is going to say something we all kind of chuckle nervously). Iunno, he's a mixed bag. The unfortunate truth is that every one of the federalist justices also tend to come with a big conservative package. Scalia is kind of like "that" guy.

[QUOTE=Ybbats;39061450]But they're just misguided, and addicted to sexual acts that are wrong. You're just enabling the disease that is eating at them. There's no argument that you can make that religous bigots haven't already used to make homosexuality seem wrong for over a thousand years. If animals cannot consent to sex, why don't you have any proof or any type of argument that proves they can't? Maybe because they can? Animals have sex all the fucking time, they don't care what it is with, their bodies are wired for sex, JUST LIKE YOURS. It doesn't mean they go around raping every living fucking thing in sight, at least not any more than the average human. That's your assumption that makes you justified in thinking I'm a horrible rapist just trying to justify my deviant sexual acts. Without making a bunch of assumptions and jumping to conclusions everywhere, you guys have no argument. So how the fuck can you guys think that you're so right and I'm so wrong?[/QUOTE] dude homosexuals can have sex because they're consenting adults they can explicitly express consent, both written and verbally. If I wanted them to prove they can consent, they can fully explain to me what consent is, whether the sex was consensual, and what exactly sex could entail. We can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they have both the mental capacity and the understanding to have sex with other consenting humans. find me an animal that can do this and you'll have a point isn't it funny how only the zoophile seems to have these magical powers of discerning consent in relation to animals

And on the issue of bestiality, I'm not defending it or anything, but isn't it technically consent, if, like, you bend over and a dog fucks you or something? Obviously not legally, but... Just playing devil's advocate on this one.

[QUOTE=Ybbats;39061318]And it's funny cause you guys are actually proving that Scalia is right, or that you agree with him. If you think it's wrong to be sexually attracted to animals, how can it be right to be sexually attracted to someone of the same gender as yourself? That's CLEARLY not natural and provides nothing useful to society. Why the fuck are you idiots standing up for homosexuals like me? Because it's now the 'cool thing to do'? You understand fucking NOTHING and trust me when I say, gay people want no fucking help whatsoever from ignorant dumbasses like you guys who 100 years ago would obviously be on the other side of the fence. Society dictates everything that is acceptable or not, that doesn't have ANY fucking bearing on what is okay and what isn't.[/QUOTE] hello i require a bit of help from you since you seem to know anything how can i refuse help from myself y'know because i'm an "ignorant dumbass" but i'm also under your rule as the king of the gays.

[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];39061557']And on the issue of bestiality, I'm not defending it or anything, but isn't it technically consent, if, like, you bend over and a dog fucks you or something? Obviously not legally, but... Just playing devil's advocate on this one.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't really consider it consent because you're consenting but the dog is taking it as a signal to mate. You're actually confusing the living fuck out of it.

[QUOTE=Swilly;39061603]I wouldn't really consider it consent because you're consenting but the dog is taking it as a signal to mate. You're actually confusing the living fuck out of it.[/QUOTE] I'm fucking done.

[QUOTE=Ybbats;39061707]I'm fucking done.[/QUOTE] I'm not sure done can consent either

[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;39057015]Dude no. At least with Republican picked ones. They're picked based on their ability to choose purely on partisan lines. [editline]1st January 2013[/editline] Or that may only be Scalia and the old black one. I don't respect either.[/QUOTE] I don't know why you think GOP is any more partisan than the Dems

[QUOTE=Ybbats;39061707]I'm fucking done.[/QUOTE] did your conscience get back from christmas vacation

[QUOTE=Vodkavia;39061951]Point to a time and point anywhere that I seriously advocated and or suggested that fucking animals is healthy? This is entirely irrelevant to the point and you're using it for emotional leverage of the EWW GROSS! variety. I asked my question out of ignorance, not objection. Why is it, that some contingent on FP believes animals are to be granted the right not to be sexually abused but not every other right? Why is it that being raped is somehow fundamentally "wrong" but being killed, caged and being used as clothing is somehow perfecting fine? The only difference I see is that it doesn't bother people other than the likes of PETA is that it doesn't provide you any sort of benefit. Animals are tasty, although we eat more meat than is necessary. Pets are great, they didn't ask to be pets and they surely do not comprehend this, they exist to please us and suffer on the streets from neglect/over-breeding. The way I see it, you either give animals rights on the basis of whether it's convenient enough that you feel like it or you just give animals rights. Unless I'm missing out on something really profound that doesn't consist of how butthurt it makes you and or how much it grosses you out.[/QUOTE] Because we (speaking for myself really) are against animal abuse, and rape is an abuse.

[QUOTE=Key_in_skillee;39061310]No we fucking wouldn't The very definition of "smart" is the fact that we DON'T do that Humans are smart because they can discover, remember, and communicate information other than just instinct.[/QUOTE] when the dinosaur fetishist is telling the zoophile to shut the fuck up you know it's a good thread

Justice Scalia, what a fucking joke [video=youtube;IzaMs5iaX7w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzaMs5iaX7w[/video]

[QUOTE=Vodkavia;39062031]But that's the thing though, anything we do to an animal that causes it suffering or goes against its will could be considered "abuse." Which includes several popular activities such as killing them for amusement, killing them for clothing or tools, eating them (which we do unnecessarily in some parts of the world to the detriment of our own health) and keeping them under our custody. If you did any of these things to people it could be considered abuse, I seriously doubt you (or most people in the developed world) are innocent of either benefiting, proliferating and or engaging in the abuse of animals.[/QUOTE] No that's livestock. We're talking about pets here.

[QUOTE=Judas;39057570]while I agree with you entirely I [i]really[/i] don't want this thread to devolve into another bestiality argument[/QUOTE] h-hey guys guys?

[QUOTE=Judas;39062100]h-hey guys guys?[/QUOTE] Too far gone bro, just throw your hands up in the air and quit. [editline]1st January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Ybbats;39061707]I'm fucking done.[/QUOTE] Let it be none that my bullshittery pissed him off so badly he left.

[QUOTE=Vodkavia;39062117]The difference between pets and livestock are really in the eyes of the beholder. (That is to say they are arbitrary or conform to the needs/desires/situation of a culture) To one person, a rodent might be a pet or live food for their snake. To someone in parts of Asia a dog or a cat can be food. Some people keep animals often used as live stock as pets, such as chickens.[/QUOTE] it's really hard to take anything you say about this seriously when your avatar is a cartoon horse with bedroom eyes

Let's all agree to disagree on the bestiality and get back to talking about how Antonin Scalia is a dumb, evil douchebag :)

[QUOTE=Judas;39062167]Let's all agree to disagree on the bestiality and get back to talking about how Antonin Scalia is a dumb, evil douchebag :)[/QUOTE] sorry dude but bestiality's part of the thread topic and people have dissenting opinions on it for some reason so we're all going down the rabbit hole together (what i mean by rabbit hole is left for you to decide)

[QUOTE=Ybbats;39061318]And it's funny cause you guys are actually proving that Scalia is right, or that you agree with him. If you think it's wrong to be sexually attracted to animals, how can it be right to be sexually attracted to someone of the same gender as yourself? That's CLEARLY not natural and provides nothing useful to society. Why the fuck are you idiots standing up for homosexuals like me? Because it's now the 'cool thing to do'? You understand fucking NOTHING and trust me when I say, gay people want no fucking help whatsoever from ignorant dumbasses like you guys who 100 years ago would obviously be on the other side of the fence. Society dictates everything that is acceptable or not, that doesn't have ANY fucking bearing on what is okay and what isn't. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("flaming" - postal))[/highlight][/QUOTE] I am so confused right now, what is this guy even SAYING? Can someone explain?

[QUOTE=J!NX;39062207]I am so confused right now, what is this guy even SAYING? Can someone explain?[/QUOTE] fucking animals is ok

[QUOTE=Ybbats;39061318]And it's funny cause you guys are actually proving that Scalia is right, or that you agree with him. If you think it's wrong to be sexually attracted to animals, how can it be right to be sexually attracted to someone of the same gender as yourself? That's CLEARLY not natural and provides nothing useful to society. Why the fuck are you idiots standing up for homosexuals like me? Because it's now the 'cool thing to do'? You understand fucking NOTHING and trust me when I say, gay people want no fucking help whatsoever from ignorant dumbasses like you guys who 100 years ago would obviously be on the other side of the fence. Society dictates everything that is acceptable or not, that doesn't have ANY fucking bearing on what is okay and what isn't. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("flaming" - postal))[/highlight][/QUOTE] As an open homosexual I would just like to say this guy is an asshole and is completely wrong in everything he's saying.

[QUOTE=Dori;39062216]fucking animals is ok[/QUOTE] I'm radically progay, even leaning on the fence towards support of polygamy but I just don't get how people can be "OK" with banging animals aside from simply not caring. I'm going to try and understand what he's saying " If you think it's wrong to be sexually attracted to animals, how can it be right to be sexually attracted to someone of the same gender as yourself? " umm what literally full blown retarded logic. Animals are a different species, human males are all the same, the only different is you have a male end, so does your partner. I really don't get how people don't understand the heaping differences between other humans and entirely different species. [URL="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/26/YellowLabradorLooking_new.jpg/260px-YellowLabradorLooking_new.jpg"]This [/URL]is a dog, [URL="http://moreintelligentlife.com/files/0212ILIN01.jpg"]This [/URL]is a human. "You understand fucking NOTHING and trust me when I say, gay people want no fucking help whatsoever from ignorant dumbasses like you guys who 100 years ago would obviously be on the other side of the fence." Lmao, what are you even saying Most gay people want non gay support. I know I do. Just because Russians would have some 50 years ago have been huge commies doesn't mean they can't support america now. "Society dictates everything that is acceptable or not, that doesn't have ANY fucking bearing on what is okay and what isn't." oh stop lmao [QUOTE=Judas;39062274]As an open homosexual I would just like to say this guy is an asshole and is completely wrong in everything he's saying.[/QUOTE] He's a pseudo homosexual. "Why the fuck are you idiots standing up for homosexuals like me?" This guy is not a homosexual, just an idiot. A big idiot, with a big dumb face.

[QUOTE=J!NX;39062297]He's a pseudo homosexual. "Why the fuck are you idiots standing up for homosexuals like me?" This guy is not a homosexual, just an idiot. A big idiot, with a big dumb face.[/QUOTE] he only sucks doggie dick and he's tired of being oppressed for it

[QUOTE=J!NX;39062297]I'm radically progay, even leaning on the fence towards support of polygamy but I just don't get how people can be "OK" with banging animals aside from simply not caring. I'm going to try and understand what he's saying " If you think it's wrong to be sexually attracted to animals, how can it be right to be sexually attracted to someone of the same gender as yourself? " umm what literally full blown retarded logic. Animals are a different species, human males are all the same, the only different is you have a male end, so does your partner. I really don't get how people don't understand the heaping differences between other humans and entirely different species. [URL="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/26/YellowLabradorLooking_new.jpg/260px-YellowLabradorLooking_new.jpg"]This [/URL]is a dog, [URL="http://moreintelligentlife.com/files/0212ILIN01.jpg"]This [/URL]is a human. "You understand fucking NOTHING and trust me when I say, gay people want no fucking help whatsoever from ignorant dumbasses like you guys who 100 years ago would obviously be on the other side of the fence." Lmao, what are you even saying Most gay people want non gay support. I know I do. Just because Russians would have some 50 years ago have been huge commies doesn't mean they can't support america now. "Society dictates everything that is acceptable or not, that doesn't have ANY fucking bearing on what is okay and what isn't." oh stop lmao He's a pseudo homosexual. "Why the fuck are you idiots standing up for homosexuals like me?" This guy is not a homosexual, just an idiot. A big idiot, with a big dumb face.[/QUOTE] ...How can you be a psuedo homosexual?

[QUOTE=Judas;39062318]...How can you be a psuedo homosexual?[/QUOTE] He claims to be homosexual to try and make his argument sound smarter. I don't see how you can be gay and as stupid as that guy with the "Gays don't want your help" argument. Wouldn't gay people just kind of... understand the general gay population? Seriously, it sounds like he's bullshitting to make his argument sound "smart"

[QUOTE=J!NX;39062343]He claims to be homosexual to try and make his argument sound smarter. I don't see how you can be gay and as stupid as that guy with the "Gays don't want your help" argument. Wouldn't gay people just kind of... understand the general gay population? Seriously, it sounds like he's bullshitting to make his argument sound "smart"[/QUOTE] No. That kinda comes across as stereotyping, assuming just because someone's gay they support the gay population and/or know anything about it. His argument is just as dumb and wrong whether he's straight, gay, or whatever.