• Psychedelics not linked to mental health problems or suicidal behavior (Population study of 130,000
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[QUOTE=Zang-Pog;48881816]It's not the drugs, it's the person[/QUOTE] that's an incredibly callous thing to say ..
I personally think if the CIA hadn't been trying to actually reprogram people with psychedelics, the public wouldn't have seen such bad responses to massive doses of them, that said the amount of overdoses in the late 60s also didn't help, today is much different
[QUOTE=Megadave;48879401]I swear we need another psychedelic revival. Many of these drugs are great, but due to them being illegal there has been countless knock offs, many of which are directly linked to psychotic diseases and even total frying of personality. Then the anti-drug people use these results to keep it illegal, feeding into public fears. LSD and Shrooms in their original and pure forms are no where near as bad as the anti-drug says it is. Hell, some sources say they're even safer than weed. Anyway we look at the situation, these drugs need to be legal. Definitely some sort of age restrictions (what good they will do, but they will help), but legalization will allow manufacturers with proper permits to create acid, and with proper regulations we can choose the intensity we want from a chart, and they will drop the liquid right there in the store. I would say people should take a quick psychologist visit to make sure the acid won't intensify some underlying medical condition.[/QUOTE] my friends mom had a book that she got from the hospital where she worked and theres a section where it explains how legit LSD is pretty much the cleanest drug there is, even compared to weed.
[QUOTE=kurgan;48881891]that's an incredibly callous thing to say ..[/QUOTE] It's callous but true. You can be predisposed to react badly I've done a lot of drugs and largely enjoyed my time with them, but I truly believe opiates and the like are the "devil". People react differently to things and I wonder how well this study accounts for all sorts of variables like that
The fact that psychedelics have been banned from study and public use for so long is a crime against humanity and science. They are some of the safest drugs to use, non-addictive, almost impossible to overdose on, and they can lead people to spiritual awakenings and self-improvement if used correctly. They can be used to treat a huge variety of mental health problems and we have only just begun to discover their true potential. I hope that we can see a drug law reform in the near future that addresses our broken system.
It's insane how many people are so ignorant about drugs, even in University. I do tons of drugs and am a very productive and healthy person, and have literally no problems. Yet, the majority of people here, who are supposed to be educated and liberal don't believe any studies about drugs and still blindly follow the government. I show them tons of studies about the true harm of psychadelics(aka none) and they all say that it's just bullshit and not real and that lsd will fry your brain.
[QUOTE=AK'z;48879795]such a shame because people assumed so with Brian Wilson, and then he was taken under psychiatric care and that was what truly messed him up psychologically :/[/QUOTE] People like Brian Wilson and Syd Barrett were under lots of stress at the time, they probably would have had problems even if they didn't take so many psychedelics.
[QUOTE=kurgan;48880968]nope! they declared a conflict of interest -- they are part of an organization that benefits from the results coming out the way they did. that means we shouldn't give them the benefit of the doubt on anything at all.[/QUOTE] Your posts are great, you've basically said everything I came to say after I skimmed the paper and the article.
Even if this' a controversial opinion, it sucks the whole "only a few scientists make the world's entire supply" which sticks the price up at $50 a pop. I feel this' contributing that nobody's able to experience it and thus just take the social judgement instead of creating their own opinions.
If pages and pages of debate are needed just to argue whether or not it won't mentally disturb you [with dubious studies pointing toward no] I'll stick to music and sports for entertainment. [QUOTE=Craigewan;48885369]Your posts are great, you've basically said everything I came to say after I skimmed the paper and the article.[/QUOTE] yeah its pretty great when that happens.
[QUOTE=Kylel999;48879017]Hasn't it been known that mushrooms and LSD are relatively safe drugs? Cool to hear, though, though it probably won't affect the stigma surrounding them at all :v:[/QUOTE] LSD are extremely dangerous I took LSD and jumped off a building thinking I could fly and then died
Psychedelics tend to amplify already existing personalities and general moods. But I believe they also (at times) have the ability to help someone open their mind to observations and understandings that they otherwise would not consider. It's a mixed bag either way and totally depends on the person taking the drug.
[QUOTE=Tools;48885378]Even if this' a controversial opinion, it sucks the whole "only a few scientists make the world's entire supply" which sticks the price up at $50 a pop. I feel this' contributing that nobody's able to experience it and thus just take the social judgement instead of creating their own opinions.[/QUOTE] bruh if you're paying 50 bucks a tab you're getting hella ripped off lmaoo
As someone whos taken mushrooms, both in and out of a group, I can say they are relatively safe, however, a bit too much can send you spiralling out of control. Ive never seen it end horribly but it definitely could, depending on the person, however one of the revelations I had on acid at a party was that everyone is broken on some level, so theres a risk for everyone. Dont take psychedelics lightly.
I took (what is generally considered) a half dose of mushrooms as a meditation guide at a critical time in my life and it helped me immensely. That was almost a year ago and to this day my worldview benefits from the deep self examination I was able to do
I don't know whats worse, the fact that they're illegal, or the fact that using them grants you massive front row seat to getting ostracized as a weirdo creep
[QUOTE=thejjokerr;48884976]You're assuming it was the first time and I didn't respect the substance I was trying out. Drugs can go right 99 times and the 100th time could become a problem. I've had bad trips which weren't all too bad, sure they were scary, but the drug induced psychosis has become my definition of absolute fear.[/QUOTE] I also had a psychosis-like experience but that was because I took drugs incredibly irresponsibly. I remember screaming and running through a endless corridor with whispering all around me. I couldn't sleep afterwards because I kept getting startled by nothing. It didn't really stick though. I did get insomnia a while after that but I don't really remember anything about that due to lack of sleep, I think it was unrelated. [editline]13th October 2015[/editline] I thought this was Addicts Lounge.
[QUOTE=Broguts;48879546]I dunno about shrooms, but I've heard that LSD is actually pretty benign, provided you don't have a pre-existing mental problem.[/QUOTE] Psilocybin mushrooms are far safer than LSD even though both substances have no LD50 yet determined in humans. For the simple fact that psilocybin is synthesized biologically by the fungi I find myself much more at ease with it. LSD requires a heavy knowledge of chemistry to synthesize it properly. More so, the fact that it lasts so long and rarely produces spectacular visions makes me hesitant to consider it a real entheogen. Mushrooms are far better for the "spiritual" experience. LSD is geared far more towards recreation.
Legalize them and issue a mental stability card to those who pass a psychological test every year.
[QUOTE=cody8295;48901434]Legalize them and issue a mental stability card to those who pass a psychological test every year.[/QUOTE] This will never ever happen, but god damn I wish it did
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