• Fallout 4? DOOM 4? Dishonored 2? Bethesda to host its own press conference for this year's E3.
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[QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;47119106]A new elder scrolls is out of the question IMO, especially with TESO being out. [U]Technically it's Fallout's turn for a game if you don't count Obsidian's New Vegas [/U](Which, honestly, Bethesda doesn't since it got one less metacritic score than Bethesda demanded and they fucked over Obsidian for it). DOOM 4 is without a doubt going to be talked about. [editline]11th February 2015[/editline] I don't know man, on my first playthrough of Skyrim the horse and wagon flew into orbit.[/QUOTE] Even if you do count Obsidian's New Vegas, it's been almost 5 years. It's time. Please Bethesda, hear my plea.
[QUOTE=archangel125;47118535]You know, I don't get it. Shortly after Fallout: New Vegas came out, people were saying it was shitty and Fallout 3 was a superior game. I always preferred New Vegas personally, but I'm mystified as to why there's been such a complete turnaround.[/QUOTE] fallout 3 is a superior game, all new vegas has is some additional features that could be added by mods
Quake 5!!!!1!!
[QUOTE=hydrated;47120925]fallout 3 is a superior game, all new vegas has is some additional features that could be added by mods[/QUOTE] Those aren't even fighting words, more like going into ISIS territory and sodomizing an effigy of Mohammed words.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;47121038]Those aren't even fighting words, more like going into ISIS territory and sodomizing an effigy of Mohammed words.[/QUOTE] so behead me, bet you won't do it
[QUOTE=hydrated;47120925]fallout 3 is a superior game, all new vegas has is some additional features that could be added by mods[/QUOTE] Expect a competent storyline. Mods can't add that to Fallout 3.
[QUOTE=hydrated;47120925]fallout 3 is a superior game, all new vegas has is some additional features that could be added by mods[/QUOTE] Studies show that people who think Fallout 3 is the superior game are wrong
[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;47121097]Expect a competent storyline. Mods can't add that to Fallout 3.[/QUOTE] fallout 3 has a perfectly fine story and more immersive gameplay
[QUOTE=hydrated;47121161]fallout 3 has a perfectly fine story and more immersive gameplay[/QUOTE] idk if you're being sarcastic, but the gameplay felt like you were a camera flying about with zero physics.
[QUOTE=hydrated;47121161]fallout 3 has a perfectly fine story and more immersive gameplay[/QUOTE] Plus a way better setting and atmosphere. [editline]11th February 2015[/editline] I'm pageking so I'm right. Fight me.
[video=youtube;B7trmEmI5Js]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7trmEmI5Js[/video]
I honestly can't bring myself to even remotely finish New Vegas, it's simply a bug fest, world is poorly designed and boring, it feels very clunky, list goes on, it's one of those games that would fare better being top down classic rpg rather than fps due to story being the main focus, also I'm sure Obsidian, they don't have any first person game experience.
[QUOTE=Hogie bear;47121181]idk if you're being sarcastic, but the gameplay felt like you were a camera flying about with zero physics.[/QUOTE] it felt like that in new vegas too
I enjoyed NV more than FO3. Atmosphere is something both games lacked, so I don't know why people call the corridor copy/paste metro tunnels and DC ruins more atmospheric than copy/paste wasteland but with the addition of more stuff to do. The gameplay also happens to be better. Weapon variety, mods and enemy variety (sorta) make it better than FO3 in that required. Maybe it's because I prefer FO2 to the other Fallouts', but the story and characters are also heaps and bounds better than FO3. The only thing that wins out when I compare FO3 to FONV is the existence of Liberty prime. I'd like to see a proper post by somebody that preferences FO3 over NV, because for the life of me I can't see how FO3 would win out when compared to NV; story and gameplay are both superior.
[QUOTE=DeeCeeTeeBee;47121567]I enjoyed NV more than FO3. Atmosphere is something both games lacked, so I don't know why people call the corridor copy/paste metro tunnels and DC ruins more atmospheric than copy/paste wasteland but with the addition of more stuff to do. The gameplay also happens to be better. Weapon variety, mods and enemy variety (sorta) make it better than FO3 in that required. Maybe it's because I prefer FO2 to the other Fallouts', but the story and characters are also heaps and bounds better than FO3. The only thing that wins out when I compare FO3 to FONV is the existence of Liberty prime. I'd like to see a proper post by somebody that preferences FO3 over NV, because for the life of me I can't see how FO3 would win out when compared to NV; story and gameplay are both superior.[/QUOTE] fallout 3 had plenty of atmosphere and I can't help if you're too blind to see it
[QUOTE=DeeCeeTeeBee;47121567]I enjoyed NV more than FO3. Atmosphere is something both games lacked, so I don't know why people call the corridor copy/paste metro tunnels and DC ruins more atmospheric than copy/paste wasteland but with the addition of more stuff to do. The gameplay also happens to be better. Weapon variety, mods and enemy variety (sorta) make it better than FO3 in that required. Maybe it's because I prefer FO2 to the other Fallouts', but the story and characters are also heaps and bounds better than FO3. The only thing that wins out when I compare FO3 to FONV is the existence of Liberty prime. I'd like to see a proper post by somebody that preferences FO3 over NV, because for the life of me I can't see how FO3 would win out when compared to NV; story and gameplay are both superior.[/QUOTE] I've mad this post you talk about somewhere in the Fallout threads but I haven't an idea where it is. To slim it down though: I like the environment of Fallout 3 more, and that matters to me for a game such as. [editline]11th February 2015[/editline] Not to say the environment makes sense, canonically. Before someone posts that whole 'shandification of Fallout 3' video..
Hopefully Bethesda announce that a sequel to Wolfenstein: The New Order is in development.
[QUOTE=Saza;47121646]I've mad this post you talk about somewhere in the Fallout threads but I haven't an idea where it is. To slim it down though: I like the environment of Fallout 3 more, and that matters to me for a game such as. [editline]11th February 2015[/editline] Not to say the environment makes sense, canonically. Before someone posts that whole 'shandification of Fallout 3' video..[/QUOTE] Plot related, NV has to be far superior. Has a crapton of references to past games -specifically FO2-, lot of weapons that appeared in the past. Quests have more options/ramifications. An ending like the first 2 games with various outcomes for everyone. Factions aren't that Black and White. There are a lots of greys unlike FO3 where the BOS are the good guys and Mutants/Enclave clearly the son of bitches. There's more to explore and find. More gameplay mechanics related to survival. Companions have a lot more background/story -Hands down Boone best one- And well, I forgot what else EDIT: Plus, iron sights. Nothing better than blowing raider heads off with a .44 magnum. Instant satisfaction.
factions in new vegas are pretty black and white too. you have the NCR who are providing fresh food and water to the people of the mojave, and you have the legion who is enslaving them
[QUOTE=hydrated;47121621]fallout 3 had plenty of atmosphere and I can't help if you're too blind to see it[/QUOTE] FO3 and NV are both lacking in the atmosphere department. As far as atmosphere goes, they're hardly even mediocre. There are few gameplay mechanics that lend themselves to immersion in to what little atmosphere the games have, which is why it's so difficult to comprehend how people prefer it over New Vegas when NV does everything else so much better. All of the comments about "atmosphere" I've seen just appear to be (at face value, that is; as again people don't really like explaining it, or are perhaps unable to) fallback hand waving. But who am I to dictate whether people actually feel immersed in FO3? If that's something somehow accomplished by a player, and they take it as the reason for it being superior to NV, so be it. But man I'd love to see a well done explanation for why FO3's atmosphere is so good, when the game fall short in every other department when compared to the game that came after. It seems like people just think "I prefer the more urban environment FO3 offers compared to NV" and decide that saying it's more atmospheric sounds better. [QUOTE=Saza;47121646]I've mad this post you talk about somewhere in the Fallout threads but I haven't an idea where it is. To slim it down though: I like the environment of Fallout 3 more, and that matters to me for a game such as. [editline]11th February 2015[/editline] Not to say the environment makes sense, canonically. Before someone posts that whole 'shandification of Fallout 3' video..[/QUOTE] Well, I guess that's why I find it so hard to understand. Preferring FO3 to NV just because of it's environment (if you ignore the flaws as provided in the shandification video for FO3) does seem a little strange. To each their own, though. [QUOTE=hydrated;47122081]factions in new vegas are pretty black and white too. you have the NCR who are providing fresh food and water to the people of the mojave, and you have the legion who is enslaving them[/QUOTE] Yeah, that's how the factions appear on the face of things. then you have NCR committing war atrocities, not being able to police their own territory and being aggressive expansionists (at their own expense) just as the legion are. On the other side of the coin, the Legion are actually maintaining control of their land, "uniting" tribes and dishing out old school justice which can be taken both ways. They're a lot deeper than they appear, and this is actually explored within the game. That's a lot more than Fallout 3 accomplished with its factions. But hey, I can't help if you're too blind to see it. :v: [editline]help[/editline] I'm praying for DOOM because god help me if I see another FO game written by Bethesda. I'll never forgive them for what they did to Obsidian.
[QUOTE=hydrated;47122081]factions in new vegas are pretty black and white too. you have the NCR who are providing fresh food and water to the people of the mojave, and you have the legion who is enslaving them[/QUOTE] you missed a few, house is pretty grey, free-vegas can go bad, good or somewhere in between depending on how you shape it . NCR and the legion just have the most clear cut morality, and even then the legion foot-soldiers are just conquered tribes of warrior slaves pressed into the society that destroyed them and the NCR government is corrupt as fuck.
[QUOTE=fulgrim;47122223]you missed a few, house is pretty grey, free-vegas can go bad, good or somewhere in between depending on how you shape it . NCR and the legion just have the most clear cut morality, and even then the legion foot-soldiers are just conquered tribes of warrior slaves pressed into the society that destroyed them and the NCR government is corrupt as fuck.[/QUOTE] house is status quo and free vegas isn't really any different. NCR and Legion are the only distinct factions.
[QUOTE=hydrated;47121071]so behead me, bet you won't do it[/QUOTE] Such a fate would be too kind, profligate.
if its not fallout 4 i can see the backlash being pretty big
[QUOTE=hydrated;47122081]factions in new vegas are pretty black and white too. you have the NCR who are providing fresh food and water to the people of the mojave, and you have the legion who is enslaving them[/QUOTE] NCR are disliked in the Mojave for expanding their lands when they can't even secure or sustain their own.
[QUOTE=hydrated;47122081]factions in new vegas are pretty black and white too. you have the NCR who are providing fresh food and water to the people of the mojave, and you have the legion who is enslaving them[/QUOTE] This is why there is still so much debate between which is better because what you said isn't even opinion, it's OBJECTIVELY WRONG facts about the game. Bethesda fucked Obsidian with horrible deadlines and the eventual "Oh you're one metacritic score off of what we wanted? No bonus funding, no more rights to fallout, you can basically fuck off." And Obsidian still comes out punching with New Vegas being superior in almost every way to Fallout 3 even though they were on a foreign engine they hadn't used before. To me, that makes the game all the more impressive that they managed to pull it off and have without a doubt a better story, better factions, better crafting, better gunplay, better followers, better "cinematic" moments, better DLCs, and at least for me, a game with a lot less bugs. Obsidian wanted to flesh out the Legion more and make them look more than roman wannabees with machetes but once again they had to cut a bunch of shit because of Bethesda's deadlines, and even then theres less "ur good, ur bad" distinction than in Fallout 3 where the BOS was literally white knights of the wasteland and the enclave were evil "black devils" who wanted to poison everyone.
The new DOOM footage descriptions from quakecon made me hype af. Truth be told, I'd rather see that than fo4.
[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;47122519]NCR are disliked in the Mojave for expanding their lands when they can't even secure or sustain their own.[/QUOTE] but that's not evil, it's just naive. legion literally crucifies and enslaves people [editline]12th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;47122552]This is why there is still so much debate between which is better because what you said isn't even opinion, it's OBJECTIVELY WRONG facts about the game. Bethesda fucked Obsidian with horrible deadlines and the eventual "Oh you're one metacritic score off of what we wanted? No bonus funding, no more rights to fallout, you can basically fuck off." And Obsidian still comes out punching with New Vegas being superior in almost every way to Fallout 3 even though they were on a foreign engine they hadn't used before. To me, that makes the game all the more impressive that they managed to pull it off and have without a doubt a better story, better factions, better crafting, better gunplay, better followers, better "cinematic" moments, better DLCs, and at least for me, a game with a lot less bugs. Obsidian wanted to flesh out the Legion more and make them look more than roman wannabees with machetes but once again they had to cut a bunch of shit because of Bethesda's deadlines, and even then theres less "ur good, ur bad" distinction than in Fallout 3 where the BOS was literally white knights of the wasteland and the enclave were evil "black devils" who wanted to poison everyone.[/QUOTE] I don't care what they wanted to do, what they did is what's important
Shameless self promotion here, but for those of you that enjoy New Vegas mods, I secured a leading role as a voice actor in New Vegas Bounties III - Which Mr. Someguy has told me he's back to work on in earnest now. [media]http://soundcloud.com/e-m-saldanha/virgil[/media] I was also lucky enough to impress the developers of Enderal (Nehrim's spiritual successor) when I applied with this: [media]http://soundcloud.com/e-m-saldanha/tybalt-valerius[/media]
i dont know what bethesda have to bring to the table anymore, at least for me a new doom seems like an odd investment. shooters have been falling out of favour for the past few years, but i guess retro-revival stuff and also horror is doing much better, especially after seeing the success (critically and somewhat commercially) of wolfenstein fallout4 seems more like the obvious winner in terms of the market but personally i wouldn't have high hopes for that dishonoured was really nice for a new IP and a pretty solid game but it was surprisingly short and is the kind of title i totally forget exists, let alone that i bought it and played it. i doubt a sequel would sell especially well or generate enough widespread hype enough to warrant having a press conference centered around
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