Liberals teaming up with the Tea Party to end marijuana prohibition - Polidicks

[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyAlt;23806695]nor when you get drunk, what's your point? you act as if drugs take control of you and make you do bad things (ps they don't)[/QUOTE] I know that drugs do not turn you into a crazed maniac, but I'm quite disappointed that our public school systems have failed to teach you exactly why cocaine and heroin are illegal.

[QUOTE=Splurgy_A;23806471]What, with the Tories (let's face it, the Lib Dems don't have any power really) in power? Don't hold your breath[/QUOTE] I guess... ah well I doubt the Lib Dems would do much about it if they did actually have any power anyway

[QUOTE=Badunkadunk;23805858]I feel like giving people the freedom to shoot up heroin won't end well.[/QUOTE] Well neither has the freedom to smoke, drink, or eat the most disgusting, fatty foods known to man.

Nah California didn't legalize, in a lot of towns/citys its kinda decriminalized and in the town i live in law enforcement really doesn't give a damn about it. A few weeks ago i was cruising around in my friends car with a few buddies just hanging out and we got pulled over and one of my friends had about 4-5 grams and a pipe on him and all the cop said was not to partake whilst driving and let us go...

[QUOTE=EliteGuy;23805872]That's a terrible idea; pot may not be harmful, but other drugs are extremely harmful and addictive. Hence why they're illegal.[/QUOTE] If people remained well-informed, we wouldn't need these laws since common sense would prevent it. Most of the others are basicly a very passive poison that kills you over a few decades. Some drugs, like weed, shrooms, pherhaps even opium and possibly some of the pscycadellics could be allowed, aslong as people knew what they were getting in to. If drug production and management was regulated, disclaimed and contained a somewhat safe dosage, I wouldn't see much of an issiue. But since most dumb governments thinks that a product is somehow less harmful when it is not being regulated while produced, alot of it is bad. I'm not saying all drugs should be allowed, but take acid for example. Odds are, you'll see a few midgets dancing ontop of your kitchencounter for a while, and then it fades out. It can be fairly controlled, aslong as you don't get a poorly made product. I mean, sure, there will always be risks, you might get completley messed up. But, the same risks applies to cheerleading, bungiejumping and even skydiving. Shit happens when you do exciting things, but if someone with experience to take precations instead of handing over the market to greedy criminals, it would be alot more safe. I'd say we ought to sell drugs in the pharmacy, and anyone with a clean criminal record within the last three years, may purchase it. That way, former criminals and convicts, will be rewarded for their good behaviour, and then drugs can help them getting into society instead of breaking them out of it. And before any of you pseudo-political fuckwits comes up with the "hurrp u kant hold a jub as a drogger lulz": Keep in mind, that most famous legends did tons of drugs. Elvis, Hendrix, Elton John. All substance tolerances are genetic, some people handle drugs better than others. You don't outlaw peanuts just because some people have allergies. Aslong as people are fully aware of the risks, let them do as they please, just aslong as they stay the hell away from my house and future kids. Since, I only want them to be exposed to the good kind of narcotics, not the bad kind.

I don't ever want to have to type this again. [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;23583493]I FUCKING HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE SAY THIS Why would you make a drug illegal because it's bad for you? That's the DUMBEST idea ever. Making it illegal DOES NOT get rid of the demand for that drug. Making it illegal can NOT get rid of that. Making it illegal makes it an unsafer drug to do, it makes an even worse thing that people will still do. Clearly making something illegal doesn't make it vanish. Knowing this, do you think that a drug that is dangerous to make, and has dangers to do due to impurity is better off illegal? FUCK NO. It'd be much better to legalize it, regulate it, educate about it. Less people will do meth that way, and the people that do it, will be safer. Fucking christ, think please.[/QUOTE] Please, think about it when you say "OH NO, LET'S NOT DO THE SMART THING!"

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;23805986]Well I guess this dispells my fear of teabaggers being fundie lunatics.[/QUOTE] They're not usually outwardly fundie in the religious sense but more Socialism Is The Word-style.

You will [b]NEVER[/b] stop drug use by making it illegal. You know how you will? Look at fucking Portugual, think about it for a second. Every single drug is legal there. Drug use is down across the board in every way. Making a drug legal is the best way to stop people from doing it.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;23807897] Please, think about it when you say "OH NO, LET'S NOT DO THE SMART THING!"[/QUOTE] Uhhh, since that's quoteless, I'm guessing you pointed it at me. In which case I'd like to say that when I say "regulated", I mean as in controlling the production, so it's at an alltime safe quality, thus minimizing the risks. I think drugs should be leagal, but they should still go through the same production codes as anything else. They should be made in a high-tech chemical plant by leading experts, not in a bathtub by some guy who calls himself "Spike".

[QUOTE=Vinze;23807997]Uhhh, since that's quoteless, I'm guessing you pointed it at me. In which case I'd like to say that when I say "regulated", I mean as in controlling the production, so it's at an alltime safe quality, thus minimizing the risks. I think drugs should be leagal, but they should still go through the same production codes as anything else. They should be made in a high-tech chemical plant by leading experts, not in a bathtub by some guy who calls himself "Spike".[/QUOTE] No, it's at the: [QUOTE=EliteGuy;23805872]That's a terrible idea; pot may not be harmful, but other drugs are extremely harmful and addictive. Hence why they're illegal.[/QUOTE] I think all drugs should be legal because there is literally NO logic behind making them illegal. That doesn't keep them out of anyones hands. When drugs are LEGAL however, drugs are regulated, and it's easy to get treatment and education and that's a fuck of a load better than making it illegal, calling it evil, and leaving thousands of people in the dark to die.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;23808060]No, it's at the OP. I think all drugs should be legal because there is literally NO logic behind making them illegal. That doesn't keep them out of anyones hands. When drugs are LEGAL however, drugs are regulated, and it's easy to get treatment and education and that's a fuck of a load better than making it illegal, calling it evil, and leaving thousands of people in the dark to die.[/QUOTE] Exactly, it's not like laws is really stopping anyone, it simply means that it brews a shitstorm within that area. Beurocrats are needed, they just need to be put in the right place.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;23807937]You will [B]NEVER[/B] stop drug use by making it illegal. You know how you will? Look at fucking Portugual, think about it for a second. Every single drug is legal there. Drug use is down across the board in every way. Making a drug legal is the best way to stop people from doing it.[/QUOTE] They're not legal, they're not illegal, that is you get fined for having them not arrested. I agree with what portugal has done though, it's stupid to ruin people's lives for their decision to use drugs, it's like if work CVs had to have that you used to be an alcoholic on it. All these laws do is intertwin drug use with crime and force drug users who have previously been caught to commit crime as they find it hard to get jobs with the stigma of being a drug user on their record.

[QUOTE=EliteGuy;23805872]That's a terrible idea; pot may not be harmful, but other drugs are extremely harmful and addictive.[/QUOTE] So? [editline]05:06PM[/editline] It's not like anyone is running out and buying heroin so they can inject it all into some unsuspecting passerby as a practical joke. If they want to fuck around with their own bodies, let them, as long as they're of age to make a reasonable decision about it.

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;23808626]So?[/QUOTE] It makes sense to outlaw terribly addictive substances that can easily cause an overdose.

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;23808671]It makes sense to outlaw terribly addictive substances that can easily cause an overdose.[/QUOTE] yeah because laws stop people from ingesting drugs

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;23808671]It makes sense to outlaw terribly addictive substances that can easily cause an overdose.[/QUOTE] Saving people from themselves Best function of government [editline]05:12PM[/editline] How about instead of taking money or imprisoning people for doing something dangerous you inform them of the danger and let them decide if it's worth it

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;23808671]It makes sense to outlaw terribly addictive substances that can easily cause an overdose.[/QUOTE] No it doesn't. That doesn't stop anyone from doing it, it makes their life exponentially worse when they do it under that system. They can go to jail not to mention suffer the problems of actual drug addiction, ruins a lot more lives. It's a lot more beneficial to just skip those steps, educate all people on drugs, regulate them, and sell them all legally.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;23807937]You will [B]NEVER[/B] stop drug use by making it illegal. You know how you will? Look at fucking Portugual, think about it for a second. Every single drug is legal there. Drug use is down across the board in every way. Making a drug legal is the best way to stop people from doing it.[/QUOTE] Legalize murder, save the world

[QUOTE=HolyCrusade;23809417]Legalize murder, save the world[/QUOTE] Hey, another right winger who is too incredibly into social conservatism and telling people what to do with their own bodies and how to make a war only get worse. Tell me sir right winger, how has the war on drugs worked so far? Has drug use gone down? Has profits from drugs to illegal markets gone down? Why do you want drugs illegal? What purpose does that serve? Can you please tell me why having drugs illegal works better than having them legal? We have two countries, the US, and Portugual. Compare them. Look at drug use, and drug laws, and look at the simple fact that making a drug illegal stops no one from doing it. [editline]02:39PM[/editline] Oh wait, I forgot, you're a conservative. You don't want to actually fix the problem of have a solution that does anything or that's effective, you just want to have your views enforced as a moral absolute because your morals are "more right" than ours.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;23809530]Hey, another right winger who is too incredibly into social conservatism and telling people what to do with their own bodies and how to make a war only get worse. Tell me sir right winger, how has the war on drugs worked so far? Has drug use gone down? Has profits from drugs to illegal markets gone down? Why do you want drugs illegal? What purpose does that serve? Can you please tell me why having drugs illegal works better than having them legal? We have two countries, the US, and Portugual. Compare them. Look at drug use, and drug laws, and look at the simple fact that making a drug illegal stops no one from doing it. [editline]02:39PM[/editline] Oh wait, I forgot, you're a conservative. You don't want to actually fix the problem of have a solution that does anything or that's effective, you just want to have your views enforced as a moral absolute because your morals are "more right" than ours.[/QUOTE] Whoa way to flip out, I was just playing the devil's advocate. I am all for legalizing marijuana as long as it can't be smoked in public.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;23809530]Hey, another right winger who is too incredibly into social conservatism and telling people what to do with their own bodies and how to make a war only get worse. Tell me sir right winger, how has the war on drugs worked so far? Has drug use gone down? Has profits from drugs to illegal markets gone down? Why do you want drugs illegal? What purpose does that serve? Can you please tell me why having drugs illegal works better than having them legal? We have two countries, the US, and Portugual. Compare them. Look at drug use, and drug laws, and look at the simple fact that making a drug illegal stops no one from doing it. [editline]02:39PM[/editline] Oh wait, I forgot, you're a conservative. You don't want to actually fix the problem of have a solution that does anything or that's effective, you just want to have your views enforced as a moral absolute because your morals are "more right" than ours.[/QUOTE] Thus the "right wing", "arrogant bastard" didn't rake in much votes.