Confederacy seems more sensible (and realistic, probably)
This is fucked up. The US needs to fucking pass net neutrality. Not repeal it. God, our congress fucking sucks. And so does our supreme court and house of representatives.
I'm surprised more Americans aren't pushing on the net neutrality issue considering it would fall under the whole "FREEDOM" thing
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;44439140]Muh incandescent light bulbs.[/QUOTE]
Muh right to pay extremely high and inflated roaming charges!!
(This is a very timely joke, if you haven't heard the EU is abolishing roaming charges as of next year)
[editline]3rd April 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Complifused;44441636]I think the EU is great but I don't want federalisation[/QUOTE]
The only situation in which I would want it is a situation in which individual countries are unable to provide the basics for their citizens.
So basically WW3.
I've been thinking of moving to Sweden or Germany. EU seems like a great place.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;44439060]Can the US please join the EU now? We want to be civilized too.[/QUOTE]
We can't for the same reason the Philippians can't join NATO.
[QUOTE=TheMrFailz;44442722]We can't for the same reason the Philippians can't join NATO.[/QUOTE]
Geography is not an issue considering that Turkey was a potential member.
[QUOTE=Niklas;44442782]Geography is not an issue considering that Turkey was a potential member.[/QUOTE]
Turkey was a bit of a stretch to begin with...
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;44438535]I love EU
please people stop being nationalist idiots and support this institution
It might not be perfect but it seems to be one of the last bastions of real democracy concerned more about good of its real people rather than lobbies.
If EU falls, the corporations will pick our countries and entire society apart.
It's not some sort of conspiracy or malicious intent, the current economic system is driving them to that. EU seems to be one of the very last big intuitions that are enduring the pressure.[/QUOTE]
There are a bunch of fucking assholes who have pretty strong opinions stating that the EU is just a device for Germany and France to dominate and de-industrialize other countries such as Spain, Greece, Ireland, and the eastern ones.
Their arguments are pretty strong too.
[url]http://foros.3dgames.com.ar/noticias-dia.395/836231.se-va-todo-mierda-venezuela-ucrania-tailandia.29.html[/url]
IF anyone understands spanish he/she will have a good time reading this.
[video=youtube;gk7SHo0NV98]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk7SHo0NV98[/video]
the EU needs to continue and to create an "european" identity. Just as the south american countries did, just as the US did, just as everyone did.
[QUOTE=alastorL;44442428]I'm surprised more Americans aren't pushing on the net neutrality issue considering it would fall under the whole "FREEDOM" thing[/QUOTE]
We actually are pushing for it, petitions and companies themselves are pushing for it. Especially tech companies.
The big issue comes from the fact that the ISPs aren't fighting each other for prices because of the way things are done.
It sucks to be honest.
[QUOTE=LuaChobo;44438749]I thought most of the east coasts copper was owned by telstra, Well I must have been wrong.
I know that it can't happen with the NBN though so yeah, glory to this magnificent cable in my house.[/QUOTE]
Telstra do own the cables, but they're bound by competition laws to allow other ISPs access (They can either use Telstras ADSL infrastructure, or run their own DSLAMs to provide access, etc.)
It's the one benefit of our crappy infrastructure, it's equally crappy regardless of the ISPs
[QUOTE=Aide;44438408]Europe can to bring us freedom. We freed you it's time for you to free us.[/QUOTE]
pffft, net neutrality is just as socialist as nationalized healthcare
i don't want my laptop EXECUTED by a death panel THANKS
[QUOTE=Teddybeer;44442508]Companies are will to protect their own freedoms. In the US politicians get bought by companies, the EU don't need to be bought, they get paid for showing up and walking out minutes later receiving €300 for just checking in.[/QUOTE]
Politicians get paid 400k a year here. They're just easy to buy out because campaign funding is done majorly by corporations, and corporate bribery is legal thanks to loopholes (it's not a bribe, it's a campaign contribution). We're not a Plutocracy, but money is the driving force behind several of our Government's decisions lately.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;44439171]charter's pretty good at least in my experience, they don't seem to dick people around much. When I lived in an apartment they were awesome.[/QUOTE]
The problem is that if anything goes wrong, do not expect a fix within the next two to three months and them trying to bill you for them coming out 50 times all with no result and the guys all going "well I guess we could try x." "We tried x on the second time you guys came out, nothing changed." " Well we can try x again I guess."
I'm stuck with them right now because they seem to have bought out land rights in my city, I just wish that I lived slightly closer to San Jose, so I could get Google Fiber.
Finland's doing pretty good with internet speeds and restrictions. Mine doesn't have any restrictions, though one thing is bad, really bad. The upload speed. My current internet is 100mbps down and [B]5mbps[/B] up, and they won't give me any real reasons why they can't make upload higher.
This is how it usually goes:
"Well, it would cost you more per month."
"I'll pay!"
"Well.... we just can't."
"Why not?"
"Because we can't."
[QUOTE=alastorL;44442428]I'm surprised more Americans aren't pushing on the net neutrality issue considering it would fall under the whole "FREEDOM" thing[/QUOTE]
There's literally nothing we can do here short of rioting in the streets. Petitions do nothing, big protests do nothing.
Big companies own everything and have their hand in everything.
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