Virgin Media Creates a Service that turns YOUR Internet Router into a Free Wi-FI Hotspot for any Vir - Polidicks

[QUOTE=FalconKrunch;48540264]The public connection has its own up/downstream limits from the ISP, it shouldn't affect your connection at all.[/QUOTE] It still uses bandwidth, and even if it's on a different channel, it will still cause slowdown because of the modem having to balance the connections between both channels in use

[QUOTE=NeonpieDFTBA;48539885]This is where living next to my school may start to suck. Not sure exactly how far you can reach but I'd rather not have 200 netflix streams sittings on my connection.[/QUOTE] That'll only really be an issue if they don't do something similar to BT, where the public traffic is capped (On my 70mbit/s fibre it's like 3-4mbit/s) and given lower priority than private traffic.

[QUOTE=PsiSoldier;48540293]That'll only really be an issue if they don't do something similar to BT, where the public traffic is capped (On my 70mbit/s fibre it's like 3-4mbit/s) and given lower priority than private traffic.[/QUOTE] If that's the case, then I don't really see the issue with this.

Says it right there in the article, if you don't like sharing you don't have to.

[QUOTE=FalconKrunch;48540264]The public connection has its own up/downstream limits from the ISP, it shouldn't affect your connection at all.[/QUOTE] It will if your ISP is failing to deliver reasonable bandwidth for what you're already paying for to your house.

[QUOTE=Shotz;48539471]Source: [URL]https://thestack.com/cloud/2015/08/25/virgin-media-to-allow-passers-by-to-freely-access-your-wifi/[/URL] Source from Virgin Media's site: [URL]http://store.virginmedia.com/discover/broadband/virginmediawifi/what-is-virgin-media-wifi.html[/URL] Quite frankly I hate this idea because they calim that it won't affect your Wi-Fi but I seriously doubt this since you're going to be running ANOTHER Wi-Fi channel on your router, and any bandwith used by that person on the free Wi-Fi can throttle my speeds. My parent's love this idea so I've got to deal with this dumb fucking thing[/QUOTE] Put the SuperHub in modem mode and buy a proper router. [QUOTE=agentfazexx;48539482]That's stupid. "Hey let's make a free guest wireless network so people can use it and do who knows what, with my internet link!" Better hope they don't look up kiddie porn or illegal torrents. Stupid fucking idea.[/QUOTE] You will have to sign in with your VM account so if you do stupid stuff on it they will trace it to you, not the owner of the hotspot

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We have this in Germany for quite some time, it's opt in and a pretty good thing??

Most Comcast/Xfinity-Subscribed homes in my area have it. I rather like it, because it means I can find internet nearly anywhere that is relatively fast without paying for an additional plan.

I like that they are doing this as opt in/out as opposed to some other ISPs which force you to do it. [QUOTE=NeonpieDFTBA;48539885]This is where living next to my school may start to suck. Not sure exactly how far you can reach but I'd rather not have 200 netflix streams sittings on my connection.[/QUOTE] It won't be on your connection though, supposedly its using a separate circuit.

[QUOTE=Jsm;48544396]I like that they are doing this as opt in/out as opposed to some other ISPs which force you to do it. It won't be on your connection though, supposedly its using a separate circuit.[/QUOTE] I'm doubting they've got 2 physical routers though. Routers still have a maximum throughput and switching capacity, and for the ones ISP's usually give you it is not high.

[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48539482]That's stupid. "Hey let's make a free guest wireless network so people can use it and do who knows what, with my internet link!" Better hope they don't look up kiddie porn or illegal torrents. Stupid fucking idea.[/QUOTE] Because as owner youre obviously responsible for Traffic from a public network. Thats not how it works, how do you think all normal public access points get away with it?

[QUOTE=Killuah;48540933]We have this in Germany for quite some time, it's opt in and a pretty good thing??[/QUOTE] the problem with opt-in is that most people are too dumb to turn it off/on. so by default its on because the ISPs realize that the people who actually care will just turn it off.

I don't really see the issue with something like this so long as it's handled correctly. If there's no security loopholes that let people into your private network and so long as the public network's bandwidth is throttled and set to a much lower priority (and so long as it doesn't count against your bandwidth cap if it exists) then I can't see this as anything but a good thing since it makes the internet more widespread and easily accessible.

I dunno why people are assuming guests on the public network will be able to totally annihilate your bandwidth. It's entirely possible to throttle and packet shape the guest network to ensure that there is enough bandwidth available on the owners network based on what the owner is currently doing.

Is it more common in the UK for people to use ISP provided routers? It is common in the US for customers to be provided with modems free of charge, but routers generally have a monthly fee, so many users purchase private ones. From how it works stateside, the group of people who would give a fuck, or even understand, what the router was doing in terms of public access wifi are the people with personally owned routers anyhow.

[QUOTE=GunFox;48551717]Is it more common in the UK for people to use ISP provided routers? It is common in the US for customers to be provided with modems free of charge, but routers generally have a monthly fee, so many users purchase private ones. From how it works stateside, the group of people who would give a fuck, or even understand, what the router was doing in terms of public access wifi are the people with personally owned routers anyhow.[/QUOTE] Most ISPs here provide modem/ router combos as part of the installation. Though the quality varies from "shit-tier D-Link" to "what the fuck is this even". There are a couple of ISPs that will ship you a decent router if you clearly know what you're doing and their router is straight up useless. Virgin is not one of these ISPs as they provide cable broadband rather than ADSL so there are very few people with an appropriate modem in the first place. Their router can just be set to modem-only mode though to get around this.

Virgin's newer routers are pretty decent. The newest one has twin 2.4ghz/5.8ghz wireless AC connectivity. The only problem with them is the locked down firmware. No chance of putting DD-WRT/Tomato on those things.

[QUOTE=Downsider;48539750]How? Unless they have you provide additional information by logging in or running software, the only identifying information they have is a MAC address. Even if they map that to a table with GUID's, you can just use someone else's MAC address and have someone else's GUID.[/QUOTE] that's probably what they will do, and just log your account with the guid. I don't know much on GUID's but my guess is you account will be used as an asset for the GUID. Second life uses GUID for their assest's in the world