Live by the gun, die by the gun: Utah man to die by firing squad
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[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22697633]This is just silly, humans that murder several humans/torture humans DO NOT deserve fair treatment in ANY way, they don't deserve rights even comparable to regular citizens. [/QUOTE]
yes, they deserve rights to an extent such as the right to life, etc.
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22697633]if you really don't see how animalistic and WRONG it is to murder and torture humans, then you are fucking crazy.[/QUOTE]
where the fuck did I ever condone what they did? of course what they did is wrong. two wrongs don't make a right
[QUOTE=JDK721;22697634]no, it doesn't
an eye for an eye is ridiculous[/QUOTE]
This isn't even an eye for an eye, this is a very unfair punishment FOR THE PUNISHERS.
Torturers shouldn't be tortured, they should just be lethally injected or whatever, that's not equal, that's like a hair for an eye.
Same for mass murderers.
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[QUOTE=thisispain;22697657]so why don't you see the false dichotomy in saying that it is okay to murder and torture humans as long as they are part of a government entity?[/QUOTE]
I never said to torture them, that's silly.
[QUOTE=yodafart9;22697650]
Exactly how I just described it. Either you can't read or your finally following up with your promise to ignore my posts.[/QUOTE]
okay
so now what?
[QUOTE=raccoon12;22690609]Execution is actually cheaper than a life sentence, dunno what the fuck you're talking about JDK[/QUOTE]
[url]http://deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty[/url]
look at me, im raccoon, i talk out of my ass
so do the 6 12 year olds who rated me agree
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22697661]
I never said to torture them, that's silly.[/QUOTE]
Why isn't killing someone part of torture? Torture and the death penalty are practically synonymous in the UN definition.
[QUOTE=thisispain;22697672]okay
so now what?[/QUOTE]
Idk, I love you man.
[QUOTE=thisispain;22697684]Why isn't killing someone part of torture? Torture and the death penalty are practically synonymous in the UN definition.[/QUOTE]
How so? I don't support torture no matter...what
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22697661]This isn't even an eye for an eye, this is a very unfair punishment FOR THE PUNISHERS.
Torturers shouldn't be tortured, they should just be lethally injected or whatever, that's not equal, that's like a hair for an eye.
Same for mass murderers.[/QUOTE]
murdering a murderer is an eye for an eye
[QUOTE=JDK721;22697697]murdering a murderer is an eye for an eye[/QUOTE]
There's nothing wrong with eye for an eye.
[QUOTE=dogmachines;22690960]Have you seen the speech by Robert Byrd? He uses the word Barbaric almost as much as you do and I can't stop reading your posts in his voice.
On topic, I think it's what some of these criminals do to get the death penalty that is barbaric. In committing such brutal crimes they lose their right to live.
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Here's the video.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V95eGgZbrU[/url][/QUOTE]
didn't know you were in a position of fucking god like authority lol
yeah, and so fucking what? what is killing him going to do, hm? make all the wrongs right?
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[QUOTE=yodafart9;22697705]There's nothing wrong with eye for an eye.[/QUOTE]
lol, we're not in fucking 11 BC you tool
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22697696]How so? I don't support torture no matter...what[/QUOTE]
death penalty:
grievous harm
massive amounts of pain
punishment
torture:
grievous harm
massive amounts of pain
punishment
If the death penalty was called torture, would you not support it?
[QUOTE=Jenkem;22691011]And what do you propose? We send them home in a Lamborghini to a mansion, with a five-course dinner waiting for them?[/QUOTE]
that's exactly what he said, pleasant reading their jenkem
Murdering someone who tortured somebody like in those horror movies is letting them off easy.
[QUOTE=yodafart9;22697705]There's nothing wrong with eye for an eye.[/QUOTE]
everything is wrong with it, and it's already been addressed plenty of times so unless you have a decent point to make then stop posting
[QUOTE=yodafart9;22697695]Idk, I love you man.[/QUOTE]
you have the makings of a grand troll within you
go forward my son
[QUOTE=thisispain;22697720]death penalty:
grievous harm
massive amounts of pain
punishment
torture:
grievous harm
massive amounts of pain
punishment
If the death penalty was called torture, would you not support it?[/QUOTE]
How is it like that at all? It's "inject liquid, dead"
It isn't painful, if anything (as said in this thread), it just feels weird.
[QUOTE=thisispain;22697720]death penalty:
grievous harm
massive amounts of pain
punishment
torture:
grievous harm
massive amounts of pain
punishment
If the death penalty was called torture, would you not support it?[/QUOTE]
death penalty is psychologically torture.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVMho2cP1NE[/media]
[QUOTE=Warhol;22697708]didn't know you were in a position of fucking god like authority lol
yeah, and so fucking what? what is killing him going to do, hm? make all the wrongs right?
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lol, we're not in fucking 11 BC you tool[/QUOTE]
No, but if I came and killed your whole family do you think I deserve to have the government serve me my meals for the rest of my days? Seems like a reward to me. Kill, and then chill in my prison cell while you experience the true feelings of retribution.
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22697739]How is it like that at all? It's "inject liquid, dead"
It isn't painful, if anything (as said in this thread), it just feels weird.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.ocucc.org/DeathPenalty/Problems.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=Warhol;22697742]death penalty is psychologically torture.
[URL="http://www.facepunch.com/#"]View YouTUBE video[/URL]
[URL]http://youtube.com/watch?v=TVMho2cP1NE[/URL]
[/QUOTE]
Well so is putting someone in jail for life then, don't you think?
[QUOTE=JDK721;22697726]everything is wrong with it, and it's already been addressed plenty of times so unless you have a decent point to make then stop posting[/QUOTE]
"Uh oh, this guys making this argument really simple, I better shut him up quick."
No matter how much you post, this guy is dead in 75 minutes.
[QUOTE=thisispain;22697733]you have the makings of a grand troll within you
go forward my son[/QUOTE]
But...father...
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[QUOTE=Athena;22697760]No matter how much you post, this guy is dead in 75 minutes.[/QUOTE]
Maybe one more post will stop them.
[QUOTE=yodafart9;22697749]No, but if I came and killed your whole family do you think I deserve to have the government serve me my meals for the rest of my days? Seems like a reward to me. Kill, and then chill in my prison cell while you experience the true feelings of retribution.[/QUOTE]
you would be in prison, although I would hate you with a passion, what would killing you fucking do?
lol, you honestly think people ENJOY being in prison because they get shitty free food? You REALLY think people enjoy it?
are you fucking retarded?
[QUOTE=Warhol;22697752][URL]http://www.ocucc.org/DeathPenalty/Problems.htm[/URL][/QUOTE]
Well that's a problem in what they use, they can fix that, what I'm talking about is if it's painless and all that, I think it'd be fine for torturers and mass murderers
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22697739]How is it like that at all? It's "inject liquid, dead"
It isn't painful, if anything (as said in this thread), it just feels weird.[/QUOTE]
what about the psychological pain of waiting for your death?
and it not being painful is heavily contested
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22697633]This is just silly, humans that murder several humans/torture humans DO NOT deserve fair treatment in ANY way, they don't deserve rights even comparable to regular citizens.
You may think "Oh what's the difference, they're still humans (torturers and citizens)" but if you really don't see how animalistic and WRONG it is to murder and torture humans, then you are fucking crazy.[/QUOTE]
Thats the point, most people that murder heaps of people or torture them or behave so animalistically ARE often crazy. We shouldn't just execute someone for something they've done due to huge psychological problems.
[QUOTE=Warhol;22697777]you would be in prison, although I would hate you with a passion, what would killing you fucking do?
lol, you honestly think people ENJOY being in prison because they get shitty free food? You REALLY think people enjoy it?
are you fucking retarded?[/QUOTE]
Better than death though ain't it? :)
They can't kill me because that got abolished.
[QUOTE=yodafart9;22697757]"Uh oh, this guys making this argument really simple, I better shut him up quick."[/QUOTE]
it's been addressed plenty of times
at least explain why an eye for an eye IS NOT bad then
[QUOTE=thisispain;22697787]what about the psychological pain of waiting for your death?
and it not being painful is heavily contested[/QUOTE]
Well I'd think that living in a cell your entire life is nearly as bad if not worse...maybe?
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[QUOTE=Lachz0r;22697792]Thats the point, most people that murder heaps of people or torture them or behave so animalistically ARE often crazy. We shouldn't just execute someone for something they've done due to huge psychological problems.[/QUOTE]
If they can't be rehabilitated ever, which they PROBABLY CAN'T, then what's the point in letting them live?
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