Live by the gun, die by the gun: Utah man to die by firing squad - Polidicks

[QUOTE=dj0wns;22698123]That become menaces to society and deserve to have their lives ended[/QUOTE] you can't be a menace to society in a fucking jail cell and no, you are in no fucking position to fucking determine who lives and who dies you fucking tool. ever heard of fucking rehabilitation

[QUOTE=Warhol;22698122]the fucking guy who did it is still a person. he's still a fucking human being i hate him with a passion, but i still hope they rehabilitate him YOU obviously have never been through this situation[/QUOTE] Yeah he's a fucking human, yeah he's breathing, but he's nowhere near worth as much as you or me.

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22698114]You didn't prove me wrong, it wasn't baseless because if you knew shit, or had a personal experience you wouldn't be saying that murderers are deserving of rights.[/QUOTE] I don't need to prove you wrong. the burden of proof is on you. you made a baseless claim, and you're grasping for straws.

[QUOTE=JDK721;22698138]they obviously need psychiatric help it's our duty as fellow humans to HELP them - not just say, "let's shoot them"[/QUOTE] so put a killer out on the street again so he can kill again, is what you are getting at then?

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22698153]Yeah he's a fucking human, yeah he's breathing, but he's nowhere near worth as much as you or me.[/QUOTE] what determines worth there Goebbels

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22698103]I was, as I have been forever, talking about MASS MURDERERS and TORTURERS.[/QUOTE] I keep telling you, people like Wayne Gracy Jr. or Ed Gein are lunatics who are in no state of mind to control the awful things they do. They shouldn't be executed they should be HELPED. These people need HELP from their government and clearly they aren't getting it.

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22698153]Yeah he's a fucking human, yeah he's breathing, but he's nowhere near worth as much as you or me.[/QUOTE] putting a value on life? you're a fucking dick

[QUOTE=JDK721;22698154]I don't need to prove you wrong. the burden of proof is on you. you made a baseless claim, and you're grasping for straws.[/QUOTE] That burden of proof shit doesn't work, because the only way I can get proof is by asking you, which you won't answer because you know I'm right.

[QUOTE=dj0wns;22698157]so put a killer out on the street again so he can kill again, is what you are getting at then?[/QUOTE] all people who kill would do it again, true story

[QUOTE=dj0wns;22698157]so put a killer out on the street again so he can kill again, is what you are getting at then?[/QUOTE] where did I ever say or imply that

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22698166]That burden of proof shit doesn't work, because the only way I can get proof is by asking you, which you won't answer because you know I'm right.[/QUOTE] burden on proof = you boyo

[QUOTE=JDK721;22698164]putting a value on life? you're a fucking dick[/QUOTE] Lol, so are the people who end life, more so too. Ahahaha

[QUOTE=Warhol;22698135]people kill on impulse, so lowering them to fucking sub-human makes you an asshole[/QUOTE] Because JFK was killed on an impulse. "Hey! It's JFK the President of the united states! I think I'll kill him! Wouldn't that be something? Yeah I'll do that now."

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22698166]That burden of proof shit doesn't work, because the only way I can get proof is by asking you, which you won't answer because you know I'm right.[/QUOTE] burden of proof is on you and it's irrelevant regardless stop grasping for straws idiot

[QUOTE=Warhol;22698174]burden on proof = you boyo[/QUOTE] Well how the hell do I get it? I can't ask him obviously, I can't go look up his family records. I have no WAY to get it, if I did I'd go get it right now.

[QUOTE=Warhol;22698160]what determines worth there Goebbels[/QUOTE] lets throw down an equation: each human life is worth 1 this person killed and injured another person, thus he is worth -0.5

[QUOTE=JDK721;22698180]burden of proof is on you and it's irrelevant regardless stop grasping for straws idiot[/QUOTE] You're the idiot here, plain and fucking simple.

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22698178]Lol, so are the people who end life, more so too. Ahahaha[/QUOTE] didn't you defend the gunner attacks in iraq? they murdered 12 people including children where were you crying about worth of life?

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22698178]Lol, so are the people who end life, more so too. Ahahaha[/QUOTE] where did I ever condone what they did? and two wrongs make a right? murdering a murderer?

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22698189]You're the idiot here, plain and fucking simple.[/QUOTE] great rebutalllll

And The argument has deteriorated into useless insult flinging. See you guys later.

[QUOTE=Warhol;22698192]didn't you defend the gunner attacks in iraq? they murdered 12 people including children where were you crying about worth of life?[/QUOTE] I was there defending their actions, saying that it was easy to believe that they were bad people etc.

[QUOTE=dj0wns;22698186]lets throw down an equation: each human life is worth 1 this person killed and injured another person, thus he is worth -0.5[/QUOTE] lol, you are a fucking tool

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22698189]You're the idiot here, plain and fucking simple.[/QUOTE] lol you've presented no logical arguments. all you've presented is, "in my opinion, they should die. I'm not changing my opinion either." you're also the one who defended the Apache crew when they murdered civilians you're the only idiot here

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22698204]I was there defending their actions, saying that it was easy to believe that they were bad people etc.[/QUOTE] including children

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22698091] Do you think they are somehow worthy of being comparable to regular people?[/QUOTE] Worthy? What is your problem? These are humans, like you and me, its not like they instantly become animals right after they have killed someone. People who believe in the dealth penalty rely on the notion of revenge more than justice, when you execute someone, what does it achieve? just another person to bury.

[QUOTE=Warhol;22698205]lol, you are a fucking moron[/QUOTE] nope, he adds one to society but he takes away 1 and a half, making him have a lesser value

[QUOTE=Warhol;22698194]great rebutalllll[/QUOTE] I didn't try to make a rebuttal, him calling me an idiot is like a a regular person calling stephen hawking dumb.

[QUOTE=yodafart9;22698179]Because JFK was killed on an impulse. "Hey! It's JFK the President of the united states! I think I'll kill him! Wouldn't that be something? Yeah I'll do that now."[/QUOTE] you missed the fucking point by a mile [editline]06:13AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Gummylamb;22698218]I didn't try to make a rebuttal, him calling me an idiot is like a a regular person calling stephen hawking dumb.[/QUOTE] you just compared yourself to stephen hawking :l [editline]06:13AM[/editline] [QUOTE=dj0wns;22698217]nope, he adds one to society but he takes away 1 and a half, making him have a lesser value[/QUOTE] people aren't bullshit numbers...

Here, I know what will shut you guys up. If you're in a room, and you are given the option to kill a murderer, or a regular person who you are told has done NOTHING wrong, which would you murder? Would it be a hard choice? It definitely shouldn't.