Live by the gun, die by the gun: Utah man to die by firing squad - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Warhol;22698305]stop being such a fucking arrogant prick. you made some bullshit hypothetical situation that relates fuck all to the topic[/QUOTE] You're kidding right? The topic at hand right now is human worth, the situation is a perfect example of "would you choose to let a murderer or an innocent person live" According to your logic you would just roll a dice or some shit.

[QUOTE=JDK721;22698311]because you're an idiot who is putting value on human life[/QUOTE] And why exactly is putting value on human life wrong?

[QUOTE=JDK721;22698311]because you're an idiot who is putting value on human life[/QUOTE] And you're an idiot who is saying murderers are worth just as much as you or me.

[QUOTE=Warhol;22698318]not really you fuck knuckle, he's making the topic superficial.[/QUOTE] Your insults sting my coat of monkey fur. Nice spelling by the way.

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22698307]Seriously, where are the smart people on this forum[/QUOTE] Your opinions are too grounded in over zealous morality. You can't be argued with.

[QUOTE=yodafart9;22698317]The person were talking about here is a murderer, he killed an innocent. There you go. Pick one. The guilty, or the innocent one.[/QUOTE] there's a lot more factors to it what if your father killed some person on impulse, and the other person in the room is a real fuckwit

[QUOTE=Warhol;22698340]there's a lot more factors to it what if your father killed some person on impulse, and the other person in the room is a real fuckwit[/QUOTE] Now you think intelligence changes people's worth? YOU MONSTER!1

[QUOTE=Warhol;22698340]there's a lot more factors to it what if your father killed some person on impulse, and the other person in the room is a real fuckwit[/QUOTE] Or what if the person that killed someone had an undiagnosed mental illness and couldn't control themselves.

[QUOTE=Warhol;22698340]there's a lot more factors to it what if your father killed some person on impulse, and the other person in the room is a real fuckwit[/QUOTE] "He's got me trapped so I'm going to blatantly continue to over analyze a simple fucking question in order to avoid the obvious answer."

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22698332]And you're an idiot who is saying murderers are worth just as much as you or me.[/QUOTE] they are... they are human beings they have the same level of humanity as you you can't MEASURE worth seriously, you're sounding like Dr. Goebbels

Won't somebody please just answer the hypothetical. I don't care how retarded you think it is, answer it.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;22698356]Or what if the person that killed someone had an undiagnosed mental illness and couldn't control themselves.[/QUOTE] There's a difference between a murderer and insanity.

[QUOTE=Warhol;22698360]they are... they are human beings they have the same level of humanity as you you can't MEASURE worth seriously, you're sounding like Dr. Goebbels[/QUOTE] I'm not measuring it with specifics, I'm just saying that certain actions can make you worth less than innocent humans.

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22698332]And you're an idiot who is saying murderers are worth just as much as you or me.[/QUOTE] they're people, and they don't suddenly lose worth you fucking retard

[QUOTE=yodafart9;22698359]"He's got me trapped so I'm going to blatantly continue to over analyze a simple fucking question in order to avoid the obvious answer."[/QUOTE] alright, you're in a room, you have to kill your mother or your best friend, what do you choose?

[QUOTE=yodafart9;22698367]There's a difference between a murderer and insanity.[/QUOTE] That's arguable

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22698376]I'm not measuring it with specifics, I'm just saying that certain actions can make you worth less than innocent humans.[/QUOTE] you didn't answer the question, how do you measure worth? [editline]06:22AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Gummylamb;22698361]Won't somebody please just answer the hypothetical. I don't care how retarded you think it is, answer it.[/QUOTE] I would shoot whoever is more of a fuckwit

[QUOTE=Warhol;22698379]alright, you're in a room, you have to kill your mother or your best friend, what do you choose?[/QUOTE] This isn't the same, at all, I didn't put personal relationships in my hypothetical for a fucking REASON

[QUOTE=yodafart9;22698367]There's a difference between a murderer and insanity.[/QUOTE] I disagree. I think very few people would or are capable of consciouly taking another persons life. Especially in Gummylambs case because he keeps saying he's talking about torturers and mass murderers. Do you think these people are sane?

[QUOTE=Warhol;22698379]alright, you're in a room, you have to kill your mother or your best friend, what do you choose?[/QUOTE] My mother, that fucking wench. Wait which one committed murder? Oh wait that's just you avoiding the question again. Doesn't matter, I'd kill my mother either way.

[QUOTE=Warhol;22698383]you didn't answer the question, how do you measure worth? [editline]06:22AM[/editline] I would shoot whoever is more of a fuckwit[/QUOTE] I measure it by their past actions, if they murdered somebody they aren't to be put equal to another person, plain and simple. [editline]10:24PM[/editline] another innocent person*

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22698390]This isn't the same, at all, I didn't put personal relationships in my hypothetical for a fucking REASON[/QUOTE] Your question is stupid. When would anyone ever be in the position where they have to choose between killing a murderer or an innocent person? Are you saying that if we disagree with the death penalty then we are killing innocent people? It's stupid.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;22698392]I disagree. I think very few people would or are capable of consciouly taking another persons life. Especially in Gummylambs case because he keeps saying he's talking about torturers and mass murderers. Do you think these people are sane?[/QUOTE] Let's agree to disagree.

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22698390]This isn't the same, at all, I didn't put personal relationships in my hypothetical for a fucking REASON[/QUOTE] so the idea here is to make my decision as BLIND as possible, only giving ONE factor of their life. that is so fucking intellectually dishonest.

[quote=lachz0r;22698416]your question is stupid. When would anyone ever be in the position where they have to choose between killing a murderer or an innocent person? Are you saying that if we disagree with the death penalty then we are killing innocent people? It's stupid.[/quote] answer the fucking hypothetical.

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22698402]I measure it by their past actions, if they murdered somebody they aren't to be put equal to another person, plain and simple. [editline]10:24PM[/editline] another innocent person*[/QUOTE] that's just your retarded opinion you sound like a deluded conservative how are you still breathing

[QUOTE=Warhol;22698424]so the idea here is to make my decision as BLIND as possible, only giving ONE factor of their life. that is so fucking intellectually dishonest.[/QUOTE] One factor, sure, but I think murder is a massive factor

[QUOTE=Warhol;22698424]so the idea here is to make my decision as BLIND as possible, only giving ONE factor of their life. that is so fucking intellectually dishonest.[/QUOTE] Answer the question or I'm leaving this thread with a smug look of satisfaction on my face.

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22698402]I measure it by their past actions, if they murdered somebody they aren't to be put equal to another person, plain and simple. [editline]10:24PM[/editline] another innocent person*[/QUOTE] you have never met a person who has killed another person have you? you have never experienced ANYTHING have you? you fucking sit their pampered and make these nazi like assumptions.

lol gummy resorts to a biased and terrible hypothetical when losing the argument